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  1. #101

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    There is also tons of parking directly adjacent, both at the Sheridan/Walker Garage and the Arts District Garage.

    And that's not even counting the two BOK Park Plaza garages that are virtually empty and the rash of surface lots just to the west.

  2. #102

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    I would love for the old court house to be rebuilt, but thats just dreams.

  3. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The sale has hit the County Assessor site.

    Sales price is shown as $5.15 million, not $6.15 million as reported by the Oklahoman.


    Russell actually formed a 2nd LLC and the ownership is split 55/45, which supports the idea he plans to divide the property in some way.

    As previously mentioned, according to the Alliance for Economic Development reports, he is actively negotiating for TIF funds which, due to the Omni deal, are not available for downtown hotel projects.

    I suspect the vacant lot will be developed for housing or some other non-hotel use. Or at least, that is the deal they are trying to put together.
    You're only partially right. The $5.15 million deed (Book 13899, page 902) is for the north tract which is split between the two LLC's. The other deed is $1,000,000 (Book 13899, page 905) which is the deed for the south tract is only to LBR6 Street, LLC.

  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. Jamison View Post
    You're only partially right. The $5.15 million deed (Book 13899, page 902) is for the north tract which is split between the two LLC's. The other deed is $1,000,000 (Book 13899, page 905) which is the deed for the south tract is only to LBR6 Street, LLC.
    Thanks.

    Just furthers the background on the fact this property is likely to be split.

  5. #105

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    Absolutely nothing happening here, but a big chunk of the top facade has come loose; this seems very dangerous:


  6. #106

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    Yep...one of these windy/stormy days that is going to take flight

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    Hope their insurance covers the buildings' repairs.

    Institute in Basic Life Principles Training Center:


    https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=5262

    https://iblp.org/about-iblp/what-we-do/training-centers

  8. #108

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    Somebody posted this on Facebook; the original Holiday Inn in the 60's:


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    It's almost identical to Tulsa's downtown Holiday Inn,

    here's a photo of it when it was a Ramada Inn (it was originally a Holiday Inn) and even the windows are the same:

    A postcard photo from when it opened


    It's been rebuilt and is a Holiday Inn again:

  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    It's almost identical to Tulsa's downtown Holiday Inn,

    here's a photo of it when it was a Ramada Inn (it was originally a Holiday Inn) and even the windows are the same:

    A postcard photo from when it opened


    It's been rebuilt and is a Holiday Inn again:
    It would be nice to see that blue color freshened up on the buildings to match back to the post card

  11. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by writerranger View Post
    Interesting that Kimray would be involved with Gothard and makes perfect sense. Kimray is a LONGTIME supporter and local benefactor of the John Birch Society.
    The thread bump caused me to read this, then caused eyeballs to pop out of head.
    Is this still true about Kimray? And if so, WTF? (Sorry I know it wasn't the point of the thread, but good lord...)

  12. #112

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    There has been some recent activity inside and they cut down all the trees on the perimeter.

    Found this on Facebook:


  13. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    There has been some recent activity inside and they cut down all the trees on the perimeter.

    Found this on Facebook:

    I mean no disrespect, but the Homeless Military Veterans Facebook group needs to get a better spokesperson, IMO. That repetitive, run on sentence makes me doubt the professionalism and organization of the group.

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    Seems ambitious based on the public charity information that's available for Homeless Military Veterans. They've filed an IRS Form 990-N, which is viewable here. The 990-N is for small tax-exempt organizations whose annual gross receipts are $50K or less. HMV's tax exempt status was granted by the IRS on April 1, 2019 according to the Determination Letter linked on that page.

    They have a Yelp page.

    The mailing address on the 990-N is 11833 SE 74th St., Oklahoma City, OK 73150. Here's what Google Street View shows at that address.

    The principal officer's address is 4801 Wood Dale Ave., Norman, OK 73026. Here's Google Street View for that address.

    HMV's website at homelessmilitaryveterans.org is a GoDaddy website template with lots of photos borrowed from other websites. A few examples:


    Caveat emptor, potential donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    I mean no disrespect, but the Homeless Military Veterans Facebook group needs to get a better spokesperson, IMO. That repetitive, run on sentence makes me doubt the professionalism and organization of the group.
    But are the plans set in stone?

  16. #116

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    Looks very much like a grift operation to me.

  17. #117

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    This property is now up for sale:

    https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/520-...y-OK/21899231/

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    Hope this doesnt end up like the gold dome or those couple properties along Broadway. Land Run buys it, maybe going to redevelop, doesnt, then puts it up for sale and keeps increasing the purchase price every year and it sits vacant for years.

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    Landrun is a speculator, not a developer.

  20. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Landrun is a speculator, not a developer.
    what was landrun's involvement in 'the rise' on 23rd? i thought they were the developer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    what was landrun's involvement in 'the rise' on 23rd? i thought they were the developer.
    They were but that was the only property they've developed while buying and flipping dozens of others.

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    Could this building be purchased, renovated and expanded by any of the MAPS 4 human needs projects:

    Mental Health and Addiction ($40 million)

    Family Justice Center operated by Palomar ($38 million)
    ...MAPS 4 will transform Oklahoma City’s mental health system with $40 million in capital projects that will provide new mental health and substance abuse services and relieve pressure on the Oklahoma County jail.

    The package includes $11 million to build two new mental health crisis centers and a $22 million restoration center that includes a crisis center, methamphetamine detox, substance abuse services and more. MAPS 4 also includes $7 million for temporary housing for people experiencing mental illness and homelessness while transitioning out of a crisis center. The operational costs would be covered by non-City sources.

    Homelessness ($50 million)

    Or sold to Holiday Inn or a similar hotel chain.

    Just a thought...

  23. #123

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    They were but that was the only property they've developed while buying and flipping dozens of others.
    that makes sense... gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    Family Justice Center operated by Palomar ($38 million)
    ...MAPS 4 will transform Oklahoma City’s mental health system with $40 million in capital projects that will provide new mental health and substance abuse services and relieve pressure on the Oklahoma County jail.
    Family Justice Center would be pretty amazing actually

  25. #125

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    Family Justice Center would be pretty amazing actually
    I know that sounds good....but Post #122 from Laramie shows why that is not possible. You can see the Devon tower in the background, and it was decided when they built the tower that poor people cannot be visible from the tower. That is why everything is moving to General Pershing and Villa.

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