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    Default Re: Proposed 10 story Apts in Edmond

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowser214 View Post
    Near Memorial & 35
    Developer's Plans

    Kalidy LLC, the developer, wants to build a 10-story apartment tower containing:
    204 units with a rooftop deck A 4-story parking garage outdoor amenity space
    The project also calls for 9,000 square feet of office or retail space on the ground floor.
    Here’s the link to the News9 article.

    https://www.news9.com/story/677c699d...faces-backlash
    Eugh, not a fan of Kalidy, but vertical growth is good. Hopefully the Edmond NIMBYs don't shoot this down

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    I have heard zero good things about Kalidy as a landlord, which between that and the odd location (would this not be more attractive five miles up the road at Covell?) does not make me optimistic for whatever the finished product ends up being here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEMIweather View Post
    I have heard zero good things about Kalidy as a landlord, which between that and the odd location (would this not be more attractive five miles up the road at Covell?) does not make me optimistic for whatever the finished product ends up being here.
    I love how negative so many get so fast. Here’s a high density project with good amenities proposed and immediately Kalidy is disparaged.

    Kalidy has had a large inventory of rental houses, so it would be unusual not to have a few disgruntled renters. But, he’s been pretty successful building a business and has been more clever about many things than the traditional names we tend to know better. I’m pretty familiar with their operations and I’m not aware of them not paying their bills or being a bad landlord on their commercial properties, etc.

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    All Edmond wants to do is increase their tax income through sales by population increase as they do not get money from property taxes. Infrastructure is now becoming clogged and miserable from when I first moved here (Edmond). The US economic model is based on growth. No growth, unhappy sad face but the problem with that is the infrastructure cannot handle that growth. I just looked up that the US has over 100 million more ppl now than in the 80s. Personally, I would rather have the population of the 70s and 80s and frankly it was much better than now. Now it's so difficult to get anything done due to horrible infrastructure. But, let's keep building. Paved over paradise to put up a parking lot.

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    I know this about Kalidy.... they hired and employed a person at a fairly high visibility position that is an absolute POS human being. And, it doesn't take more than a very quick public search on the internet to know how much of a POS this person is so it's not something that could have just been missed when hiring this individual. Yet they employed them at a high level for a significant amount of time. So, ever since that happened I have always viewed Kalidy as a shady operator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    All Edmond wants to do is increase their tax income through sales by population increase as they do not get money from property taxes. Infrastructure is now becoming clogged and miserable from when I first moved here (Edmond). The US economic model is based on growth. No growth, unhappy sad face but the problem with that is the infrastructure cannot handle that growth. I just looked up that the US has over 100 million more ppl now than in the 80s. Personally, I would rather have the population of the 70s and 80s and frankly it was much better than now. Now it's so difficult to get anything done due to horrible infrastructure. But, let's keep building. Paved over paradise to put up a parking lot.
    n/m misread ..

    this is for sure why edmond needs to do all it can to expand its retail ..

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    Is this Kalidy the same as Kalidy Kia? Kalidy Kia was, well, interesting to buy from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    the city gets almost no money from property taxes ..
    That's what I said, yes?

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    That's what I said, yes?
    my apologies was reading on my phone and completely misread that ..

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    I think ODOT is auctioning off the land they own that surrounds this parcel.

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    lol, Karen Drive is literally a couple hundred feet west of the proposed development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    n/m misread ..

    this is for sure why edmond needs to do all it can to expand its retail ..
    But why? How much is enough? How much suffering do the ppl need to endure to satisfy the City of Edmond's thirst for tax income increases? TBH, This happens all over and is not unique to Edmond. It's a poor economic model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    But why? How much is enough? How much suffering do the ppl need to endure to satisfy the City of Edmond's thirst for tax income increases? TBH, This happens all over and is not unique to Edmond. It's a poor economic model.
    I mean, as citizens keep moving there, more services are required. And if Edmond wants more people, then they need to offer more retail/restaurants to get people in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    But why? How much is enough? How much suffering do the ppl need to endure to satisfy the City of Edmond's thirst for tax income increases? TBH, This happens all over and is not unique to Edmond. It's a poor economic model.
    suffering?? because of new retail and a higher tax base ..

    again what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    But why? How much is enough? How much suffering do the ppl need to endure to satisfy the City of Edmond's thirst for tax income increases? TBH, This happens all over and is not unique to Edmond. It's a poor economic model.
    When I think of Edmondites, "suffering" is not high on the list of words I would use to describe us

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    Quote Originally Posted by April in the Plaza View Post
    lol, Karen Drive is literally a couple hundred feet west of the proposed development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    But why? How much is enough? How much suffering do the ppl need to endure to satisfy the City of Edmond's thirst for tax income increases? TBH, This happens all over and is not unique to Edmond. It's a poor economic model.
    Suffering? Poor economic model? LOL.
    Why do people hate on Edmond so much? It has become a stereotype for non thinkers to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    suffering?? because of new retail and a higher tax base ..

    again what??
    Congestion, traffic, = Suffering. Bringing in more population without building infrastructure = Suffering. Sitting in traffic because of City Sales Tax hunger = Suffering. Planning, or lack there of = Suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    Congestion, traffic, = Suffering. Bringing in more population without building infrastructure = Suffering. Sitting in traffic because of City Sales Tax hunger = Suffering. Planning, or lack there of = Suffering.
    Awe, having to deal with stuff people in EVERY city have to deal with. Forgive me for not being upset. The benefit to having a store nearby for what you need or restaurants for when you don't want to cook is traffic (very light, compared to other places it's size). Forgive me for not shedding many tears about their horrible plight.

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    There is a huge project right now to expand all the I-35 interchanges in the Edmond area and widen Waterloo to the west. Also redoing the frontage roads near the interstate.

    We are growing up as a city and we still have tremendous capacity in our highways and section-line roads.

    I live near NW Ex and Penn, one of the most frequently reviled intersections when it comes to traffic. And it just isn't anywhere close to a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    Congestion, traffic, = Suffering. Bringing in more population without building infrastructure = Suffering. Sitting in traffic because of City Sales Tax hunger = Suffering. Planning, or lack there of = Suffering.
    Sounds like a Yogi Berraism. Nobody goes there anymore because it is too crowded. LOL

    If sitting through a stop light is "suffering" to you then you have a charmed privileged life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    Congestion, traffic, = Suffering. Bringing in more population without building infrastructure = Suffering. Sitting in traffic because of City Sales Tax hunger = Suffering. Planning, or lack there of = Suffering.
    the population is already growing that is not going to stop .. with or without new retail ..

    you need to the retail grow to have more money to provide for the pop growth

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    Awe, having to deal with stuff people in EVERY city have to deal with. Forgive me for not being upset. The benefit to having a store nearby for what you need or restaurants for when you don't want to cook is traffic (very light, compared to other places it's size). Forgive me for not shedding many tears about their horrible plight.
    Sounds like a Yogi Berraism. Nobody goes there anymore because it is too crowded. LOL

    If sitting through a stop light is "suffering" to you then you have a charmed privileged life.
    Amazing responses... Like pigs living in mud never care to elevate their situation. That's the way it always has been, why change?

    the population is already growing that is not going to stop .. with or without new retail ..

    you need to the retail grow to have more money to provide for the pop growth
    The problem is not retail, never said anything about that. The original comment was about the City of Edmond having a myopic view of only caring about increasing their tax base. If I have a retail shop or restaurant, do I care about how difficult it is for customers to get to my shop. When you look for a site to have a shop, do you care about parking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHorseman View Post
    Amazing responses... Like pigs living in mud never care to elevate their situation. That's the way it always has been, why change?



    The problem is not retail, never said anything about that. The original comment was about the City of Edmond having a myopic view of only caring about increasing their tax base. If I have a retail shop or restaurant, do I care about how difficult it is for customers to get to my shop. When you look for a site to have a shop, do you care about parking?
    It's Edmondites closed-mindedness that cost them Classen Curve, essentially (the expansion of Spring Creek Plaza). I have no sympathy for them.

    You say the city has a myopic view of things, i say the citizens do, as well. And they appear to be antithetical. So until a common ground is reached, Edmond will mire in mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison34 View Post
    It's Edmondites closed-mindedness that cost them Classen Curve, essentially (the expansion of Spring Creek Plaza). I have no sympathy for them.

    You say the city has a myopic view of things, i say the citizens do, as well. And they appear to be antithetical. So until a common ground is reached, Edmond will mire in mediocrity.
    Spring Creek Plaza? You support that? That was a disaster move if it went through. So glad it didn't. I've lived in many other places than Edmond and have seen unplanned urban sprawl. What it is effectively is developers in hand with city officials going at it while the residents suffer. Developers make money, City makes money, Citizens deal with the consequences.

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