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    Default Cirqúe Dreams in Tulsa and OKC...

    Just wanted you guys to know that some of the actors from Cirqúe Dreams are in town. Apparently they just got back from Tulsa. I asked them how it went and their comment was that Tulsa's Performing Arts Center was pretty nice for being a "small town." I asked if they had seen the Civic Center yet and they hadn't because they just got in town but that they were excited to be in a "big city" again. I told them they would be very impressed with the Civic Center.

    Anyways, it's nice to hear the point of view from a few Russians that Tulsa's a small town and OKC is a big city.

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    That almost sounds hilarious!! How times have changed. I guess OKC is no longer the hick town that Tulsans used to perceive us as a few years ago.

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    Are these guys blind? Or just dumb.

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    Neither!!

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    swake Guest

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    [QUOTE=Luke]Just wanted you guys to know that some of the actors from Cirqúe Dreams are in town. [QUOTE]

    Actors? In a Cirque styled rip off show? They would be offended to be called actors.

    Now who is the hick?

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    You got to love them there cowboys in that there BIG CITY? OKC. GIDDY UP

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    Yawn. I'll ignore this continued "who's a hick" nonsense, but the notion that Tulsa is a "Small Town" is ridiculous. If they said that, they don't know what they're talking about.

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    Check out their tour dates:

    http://www.cirqueproductions.com/tourdates.htm

    They may not know what a big city is, but they should know what a small one is by now.

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    Wow, ruffled some T-Town feathers.

    Easy to do nowadays.

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    Well when you live in a city this good that is very easy to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDP
    Check out their tour dates:

    http://www.cirqueproductions.com/tourdates.htm

    They may not know what a big city is, but they should know what a small one is by now.
    That's true. Oklahoma City IS the biggest city on that tour list.

    Maybe that is what they meant, a big city (significantly over 1mil with lots of attractions).

    No offense Tulsa, but it is true. (then again, you are not a small town - but I think they meant the other locations -- in general).
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    swake Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke
    Wow, ruffled some T-Town feathers.

    Easy to do nowadays.

    Not ruffled at all. It’s just very funny that in a comment when you want to call Oklahoma City a big city and infer that Tulsa is less so and say it is a “small town”, you just reveal yourself as a stereotypical Oklahoma rube by referring to the Russian acrobats you were speaking to as “actors”.

    It’s just plain that you had no idea what Cirque de Soleil is, even if this was just a touring rip off show hitting tier two and three cities that the real Cirque doesn’t visit, if you weren’t so provincial you would know what it is. My God, have you never even been to Vegas? The bright lights there usually draw in even the most simple and uneducated.

    Did you have a strand of straw sticking out of your mouth when you were talking to the Rooskies or was that chewing tobaccie in yer mouth? How did ye understand ‘em when they talked so funny?

    Ruffled my ass, it’s funny as hell.

    The truth is that Tulsa and OKC are tier two cities, both mid sized, metro OKC is 20% larger than metro Tulsa, wow, what a difference! Dallas-Ft Worth is a big city, it’s five times the size of OKC; Chicago is a big city, almost eight times bigger. Neither OKC nor Tulsa is a big city. Hell, Kansas City isn’t even a big city, St Louis is kinda on the edge of being a big city. I find it even funnier that the biggest insult on this board is to say that OKC is not a big city. I’ve been to big cities, even lived in big cities, and neither city here is a big one. Get over it!

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    Chicago isn't eight times bigger. DFW is actually close to passing up Chicago in metro population. Houston will pass up Chicago proper in population, while Chicago continues to shrink.

    The U.S. Census Bureau classifies cities as a 'Big City' if the city's proper population surpasses 500,000, which Oklahoma City did in 2000.

    However, a true big city by the definitions of many are cities with 1 million or more. I call them large cities.

    But in all honesty, this thread was started by a harmless comment. Let's not start another turnpike war.
    Continue the Renaissance!!!

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    Not ruffled at all. It’s just very funny that in a comment when you want to call Oklahoma City a big city and infer that Tulsa is less so and say it is a “small town”, you just reveal yourself as a stereotypical Oklahoma rube by referring to the Russian acrobats you were speaking to as “actors”.

    It’s just plain that you had no idea what Cirque de Soleil is, even if this was just a touring rip off show hitting tier two and three cities that the real Cirque doesn’t visit, if you weren’t so provincial you would know what it is. My God, have you never even been to Vegas? The bright lights there usually draw in even the most simple and uneducated.

    Did you have a strand of straw sticking out of your mouth when you were talking to the Rooskies or was that chewing tobaccie in yer mouth? How did ye understand ‘em when they talked so funny?

    Ruffled my ass, it’s funny as hell.

    The truth is that Tulsa and OKC are tier two cities, both mid sized, metro OKC is 20% larger than metro Tulsa, wow, what a difference! Dallas-Ft Worth is a big city, it’s five times the size of OKC; Chicago is a big city, almost eight times bigger. Neither OKC nor Tulsa is a big city. Hell, Kansas City isn’t even a big city, St Louis is kinda on the edge of being a big city. I find it even funnier that the biggest insult on this board is to say that OKC is not a big city. I’ve been to big cities, even lived in big cities, and neither city here is a big one. Get over it!


    Damn! If that's not ruffled, I don't know what is.

    You're mostly right in your relative comparisons of city size, but, damn, that was testy.

    In the end, we all look a little small time arguing over the opinion of a b-level acrobat.

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    swake Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by okcpulse
    Chicago isn't eight times bigger. DFW is actually close to passing up Chicago in metro population. Houston will pass up Chicago proper in population, while Chicago continues to shrink.

    The U.S. Census Bureau classifies cities as a 'Big City' if the city's proper population surpasses 500,000, which Oklahoma City did in 2000.

    However, a true big city by the definitions of many are cities with 1 million or more. I call them large cities.

    But in all honesty, this thread was started by a harmless comment. Let's not start another turnpike war.

    2003 CMSA Estimates

    Tulsa 928,967
    Oklahoma City 1,200,000
    Dallas-Ft Worth 5,784,645
    Chicago 9,549,014

    Sorry, I was off, Dallas is 4.83 times bigger, and Chicago is 7.96 times bigger

    Dallas’ CMSA is nowhere close to passing Chicago, Dallas grew by 402,961 people 2000 to 2003, but Chicago grew 216,189 people, at that rate it’s going to take several decades for Dallas to catch Chicago which is larger by nearly four million people.

    Your city numbers are suspect too, Chicago the city did shrink by about 35,000 people 2000 to 2004, but Houston only grew by about 50,000 people in that time and is smaller than Chicago by 850,000 people. Houston might pass Chicago at that rate in about 40 years, if nothing changes.

    This is like all the fuzzy math people on this board like to use and say, “Oklahoma City has almost 1.5 million people!” Right, OKC is projected to hit that mark in about 2030.

    And find me the definition of a “big” city online, because I don’t think it exists.

    here is where you should look

    www.census.gov

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    The definition is set by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget. This is the same agnecy that defines metropolitan statistical areas, and decided which counties belong and which ones don't.

    I stand corrected on Chicago's MSA. You're giving the numbers for Chicago's and Dallas' CMSA, both of which are commonly used. Oklahoma City's CMSA is just slightly over 1.2 million. Our MSA is 1.13 million. And Oklahoma City's TV market is 1.5 million in population, not its metro area. Some people are getting that confused. Trust me, I don't exaggerate Oklahoma City's figures. I'm picky when it comes to accuracy, because I want to present Oklahoma City's true picture, not sugar up the numbers to make it look good.

    I wouldn't say the definition of a "big city" doesn't exist, because the article was featured in USA Today after the new census figures were released for 2000. Heck, I didn't even know that until I read the article. Remember, this definition targets only the city, not its suburb included.
    Continue the Renaissance!!!

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    Well, since you quoted and personally attacked me, I feel obligated to respond.

    Quote Originally Posted by swake
    It’s just very funny that in a comment when you want to call Oklahoma City a big city and infer that Tulsa is less so and say it is a “small town”, you just reveal yourself as a stereotypical Oklahoma rube by referring to the Russian acrobats you were speaking to as “actors”.
    Actually, I was not inferring anything at all. I simply find it interesting and funny that some performers in a Russian traveling Cirqúe production made the comments they did. If you have issues with their statements, buy a ticket to the show at the Civic Center and I can point him out to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by swake
    It’s just plain that you had no idea what Cirque de Soleil is, even if this was just a touring rip off show hitting tier two and three cities that the real Cirque doesn’t visit, if you weren’t so provincial you would know what it is. My God, have you never even been to Vegas? The bright lights there usually draw in even the most simple and uneducated.
    Again, your assumption is incorrect. I've been to Vegas many times. Unfortunately, I've not been able to see the Cirqúe du Soleil (this is the correct spelling, by the way) shows in Vegas (Zumanity and "O"). And again, unfortunately, I won't be able to see this Cirqúe Dreams production because of prior obligations. I was very familiar with this before you explained it all to me. Please, can you keep the personal attacks out? All I was doing was giving the members of the OKCTalk.com fora a random foreign individual's view of his personal opinion comparing OKC and Tulsa. Again, if you want to get personal and attack someone, buy tickets to the show here and I'll point out the guy who said that.

    Boy, if that didn't ruffle your feathers, I wouldn't like to be around when they are ruffled.

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    Next time you’re in Vegas, I recommend Avenue Q at the Wynn. Great show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okcpulse
    Chicago isn't eight times bigger. DFW is actually close to passing up Chicago in metro population. Houston will pass up Chicago proper in population, while Chicago continues to shrink.

    The U.S. Census Bureau classifies cities as a 'Big City' if the city's proper population surpasses 500,000, which Oklahoma City did in 2000.

    However, a true big city by the definitions of many are cities with 1 million or more. I call them large cities.

    But in all honesty, this thread was started by a harmless comment. Let's not start another turnpike war.
    That's not true about Chicago. Have you been there lately?

    Anyways, the census numbers put Chicago at near 10M metro, 2.88M in city. DFW is near 6M Consolidated Metro, so I dont think Chicago has anything to worry about getting surpassed.

    Actually, Chicago is not shrinking - it's having an urban renaissance of its own. I imagine in 2010, there will once again be >3M in city, as there is a massive condo boom going on downtown! (heard of Trump Tower Chicago, et al?).

    There is NO WAY any city will dethrone Chicago from #3 (either in city or metro) any time soon!

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    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD
    That's true. Oklahoma City IS the biggest city on that tour list.

    Maybe that is what they meant, a big city (significantly over 1mil with lots of attractions).

    No offense Tulsa, but it is true. (then again, you are not a small town - but I think they meant the other locations -- in general).

    actually el paso is the largest city on the list. 592,099.

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    True, but I think OKC's metro bigger than El Paso's.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    I just found something interesting comparing Tulsa to OKC in population per square mile OKC is 833.84 people per square mile and Tulsa has 2,151.97 people per square mile. That is a difference of 1,318.13 people. That also makes Tulsa one of the largest cities in population of square miles in the country.

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    That also makes Tulsa very congested and crowded -

    not very desirable for those who like a little breathing room between neighbors or no traffic.


    But to each his own...
    " You've Been Thunder Struck ! "

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    swake Guest

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    Ah, the wonders of sprawl. Most cities fear it, but OKC is the poster child for loving ugly strip malls and the big box. Should Oklahoma City be renamed WalMart City? WMC?

    And FYI, Tulsa has the shortest commute time on average in the nation. So while we may have traffic, debatable for anyone who has been back east or to California, the drive distance is also shorter in Tulsa.

    Note: I am in no way implying that Tulsa does not have ugly strip malls, I am being critical of the love of sprawl.

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    not very desirable for those who like a little breathing room between neighbors or no traffic.
    Who said anything about the love of sprawl? I am referring to those people who really don't relish the sound of barking dogs and blaring horns.... fighting neighbors and screaming kids - all heard due to the fact that your tract home is practically touching your neighbor's home.

    With 1,318.13 more people per square mile - you'll get this... many people are moving from congested areas because they want to wake hearing birds instead of sirens. They like acreage and space.

    WMC? wow.

    Like I said, to each his own, there is no need to get your feathers ruffled (again) should anyone even mention something remotely negative about Tulsa.
    " You've Been Thunder Struck ! "

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