Boardwalk at Bricktown / Dream Hotel

[Urbanized]

The area described as Lower Bricktown definitely is NOT subject to design review. Instead, it is subject to the terms of the development agreement between Hogan and OCURA.

[Martin]

ah... so, can you clad a 100ish story tower in eifs? asking for a friend.

[Urbanized]

Basically, yes. So long as OCURA is OK with it. I mean, it would still have to meet code, but no specific design guidelines apply south of Reno.

[Martin]

sometimes my attempts at humor are a little too dry... looks like today is one of those days. : )

[Pete]

The area described as Lower Bricktown definitely is NOT subject to design review. Instead, it is subject to the terms of the development agreement between Hogan and OCURA.

South of the boulevard in Lower Bricktown is part of design review.

For example, the Truck Yard had to be specifically approved.

[Urbanized]

Yes, south of the boulevard is subject to DBD review, as is the U-Haul building. Everything between Reno and the boulevard is excluded.

[Canoe]

sometimes my attempts at humor are a little too dry... looks like today is one of those days. : )

EIFS is always a joke.

[Urbanized]

sometimes my attempts at humor are a little too dry... looks like today is one of those days. : )

Haha no, I knew you were being funny. Just stating that - from a design review standpoint - this literally COULD be a 100 story EIFS tower, so long as it otherwise conformed to standard building code and so long as OCURA allowed it (which of course they would not).

An example of OCURA influencing design in Lower Bricktown was when the Charleston's structure was built to house Kd's. HSRG initially intended to put the front door on the parking lot side and have no patio, but thankfully OCURA intervened and insisted on something more oriented to the canal. Besides that, however, that strip of land (Lower Bricktown) has literally zero official design oversight, with nothing codified to address design elements there. Same would be true of video wall elements.

North of Reno is quite a different story.

[HOT ROD]

so givenn there are no design district regulations for the site, what are the chances that Planning Commission approves the height variance?

also - is it just the PC that approves or does City Council need to "rubber stamp" it (or possibly even reject it after the fact)?

[Pete]

so givenn there are no design district regulations for the site, what are the chances that Planning Commission approves the height variance?

also - is it just the PC that approves or does City Council need to "rubber stamp" it (or possibly even reject it after the fact)?

The Planning Commission approval should be a big deal.

And yes, the City Council would then have to provide it's rubber stamp.

[LocoAko]

so givenn there are no design district regulations for the site, what are the chances that Planning Commission approves the height variance?

FWIW, while it will ultimately be up to their vote on Thursday (and then the City Council vote a few weeks later)—which I'll be very interested to see—the staff summary recommended the approval of the application subject to a few technical changes which only pertain to signage and and the design of lower-level facades, not height. So at least based on that the "no maximum height" request doesn't seem to be a major impediment to getting approval.

[Pete]

They still need to get approval for building permit applications which have yet to be filed, and on a project this size that will take months.

However, you can start excavating and foundation work without a building permit, and that's what Matteson has said will happen this summer.

[Anonymous.]

Matteson is a plant from Shadid to remove a large amount of parking in Bricktown to force more of his lots to be used.

[HOT ROD]

thanks Pete and Loco for the clarifications and additional information on the process. I did cite you two on the national forums for the great work and prospectives you've given so it can be received nationally/internationally via re-post.

[OklahomaNick]

Curious to hear how the planning commission meeting went today for this project.
Was at 1:30pm today..

[Sonicthunder]

Curious to hear how the planning commission meeting went today for this project.
Was at 1:30pm today..

It’s on YouTube right now

[G.Walker]

Approved, but they spent an hour talking about the signage. Ultimately signage will have to be approved at later date.

[Pete]

The Planning Commission just passed the rezoning, with the exception of all the signage which will still require a separate submission and approval by the PC.

The next step is approval by City Council, which is almost always a rubber stamp.

[Laramie]

Oklahoma City's Pipe Dream

Won't believe it until I see it. Now this is the type of development that will make Dallas, Kansas City and many large cities Jealous--IF it comes to fruition. Did any see the 4 p.m., KFOR News report.

[Bowser214]

First off stop calling it Oklahoma City’s pipe dream!! The citizens of Oklahoma City are not financing any of this!

[Laramie]

First off stop calling it Oklahoma City’s pipe dream!! The citizens of Oklahoma City are not financing any of this!

Correction: Do you think this dream skyscraper will ever get built.

[Bunty]

I think something serious will be built. At least it seems further along in the news over whether the $5.5 billion new refinery will really be built in Cushing.

[Laramie]

[ChrisHayes]

I think something serious will be built. At least it seems further along in the news over whether the $5.5 billion new refinery will really be built in Cushing.

I've been wondering about that refinery

[OkieinGeorgia]

Seeing the "sportsbook entrance" along with the full body, 4 sides of digital boards makes me think this is a development that was originally made for Vegas but never saw the light of day and is now being peddled on OKC. I wish I was more positive about it, but it just doesn't add up.