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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Have you seen any proposals from the leadership in either party addressing inflation?
    I've heard complaining and have seen finger pointing but no solutions proposed.
    Here is a new proposal that will likely increase the inflation rate.

    https://www.axios.com/biden-interior...7c36b0b3d.html

  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonergolfer View Post
    Here is a new proposal that will likely increase the inflation rate.

    https://www.axios.com/biden-interior...7c36b0b3d.html
    Your response has zero relevance to the question I posed. Take a mulligan.

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    That is not correct. O & G are commodities that are affected by market psychology as well as supply and demand and supply chain problems.

    Every time Biden limits delivery and drilling or slaps on new or higher drilling costs, market psychology raises the price of O & G Simply by the perception of higher future prices. Its the same psychology that causes prices to go up just at the prospect of a significant hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, just long-term.

    This IS a valid long-term component on inflation since the cost of gasoline and diesel affect virtually everything in our economy.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugofbeer View Post
    That is not correct. O & G are commodities that are affected by market psychology as well as supply and demand and supply chain problems.

    Every time Biden limits delivery and drilling or slaps on new or higher drilling costs, market psychology raises the price of O & G Simply by the perception of higher future prices. Its the same psychology that causes prices to go up just at the prospect of a significant hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, just long-term.

    This IS a valid long-term component on inflation since the cost of gasoline and diesel affect virtually everything in our economy.
    At least the price of oil sank to $66.18 on Tuesday. Covid has a lot of market psychology influence for the downside.

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Have you seen any proposals from the leadership in either party addressing inflation?
    I've heard complaining and have seen finger pointing but no solutions proposed.
    That ship sailed in the 1970s and 80s when the Globalists decided to offshore basically all of the country's manufacturing and means of production to China and other countries that don't necessarily like us.

    We're now at the mercy of third parties, which in normal times did not matter. But these aren't normal times.

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Your response has zero relevance to the question I posed. Take a mulligan.
    Please explain to me how this proposal (which you asked for) won’t affect inflation? You didn’t specify whether u want a proposal that decreases inflation or increases inflation. It’s a pretty strait forward response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonergolfer View Post
    Please explain to me how this proposal (which you asked for) won’t affect inflation? You didn’t specify whether u want a proposal that decreases inflation or increases inflation. It’s a pretty strait forward response.
    He doesn't know, he just wanted to swipe at your comment.

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonergolfer View Post
    Please explain to me how this proposal (which you asked for) won’t affect inflation? You didn’t specify whether u want a proposal that decreases inflation or increases inflation. It’s a pretty strait forward response.
    So even though less than 10% of US production is on public onshore lands this will be a significant cause of inflation in the USA? Ok.
    Now to get into specifics, what is GOP leadership proposing to curb inflation. My initial comment singled out those complaining and finger pointing which is clearly the opposition party.
    Less time defending bigots and kooks and more time on policy is what House GQP leadership should be addressing. Problem is Kev Mc has no control over his caucus.

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    You are still ignoring other factors that determine the price of a commodity, specifically market psychology which l explained in post #53. I can also say that mere 10% of production could be greatly expanded if not for regulation, not to mention drillable land locked up by state and local regulation. So when trying to shoot down another's post, have a complete picture of the subject.

    Your pointing at Republicans for this makes zero sense. Few, if any Republican's are trying to restrict drilling or slow oil production right now. This inflation is purely a Democrat issue.

    https://www.americanfreepress.net/ht...ssive_oil.html

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    According to the st. Louis fed we are at 6.7% inflatiion as of the date of this post.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIAUCSL

  11. #61

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    Penn Wharton University of Pennsylvania

    https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.ed...nflation-costs

    Inflation is going to cost the average family an extra 3000 dollar over the next year. If you make 12 dollars an hour after taxes then you will need to work an additional 250 hours to maintain the same quality of life you recieved this year.

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    I grabbed a rotisserie chicken from Sprouts, they used to be $6.99. Now $7.99, I believe that is a 14% increase.

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    I posted this on another thread but it's more appropriate here.

    Supply v. Demand wins out again. Economist admits he was wr...wr...wr...wrong.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/nyt-ec...on-transitory/

  14. #64

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...2?srnd=premium

    Highest inflation rate in 40 years.

  15. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...2?srnd=premium

    Highest inflation rate in 40 years.
    Increasing spending on the military significantly adds to the problem. Even though we exited Afghanistan the on the book spending is going up over 7% next year. Keep in mind we are done in Afghanistan. The military "demand" takes raw materials out of the economy while not supplying goods in return. Ike was right.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...defense-budget

  16. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Increasing spending on the military significantly adds to the problem. Even though we exited Afghanistan the on the book spending is going up over 7% next year. Keep in mind we are done in Afghanistan. The military "demand" takes raw materials out of the economy while not supplying goods in return. Ike was right.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...defense-budget
    You are correct. A more centralized/controlled economy leads to the misallocation of resources which leads to inflation, shortages, and a black market. We have discussed inflation and here is a link to shortages...

    https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/10724...helves-reasons

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  18. #68

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    It appears that the winter wheat yield in Oklahoma was lower than expected.

    https://www.agweb.com/news/crops/whe...supply-worries

    This could effect prices in the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    It appears that the winter wheat yield in Oklahoma was lower than expected.

    https://www.agweb.com/news/crops/whe...supply-worries

    This could effect prices in the market.
    Not to make light of the drought affecting wheat in the plains, but the invasion of Ukraine and the sanctions that resulted will have a much bigger impact on world wheat prices.

    What does conflict in Ukraine mean for U.S. wheat? | Successful Farming
    https://www.agriculture.com/news/cro...fects-us-wheat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Not to make light of the drought affecting wheat in the plains, but the invasion of Ukraine and the sanctions that resulted will have a much bigger impact on world wheat prices.

    What does conflict in Ukraine mean for U.S. wheat? | Successful Farming
    https://www.agriculture.com/news/cro...fects-us-wheat
    Unfortunately, l believe very little, if any of the higher prices will benefit farmers. Any benefit will be more than offset by higher energy and fertilizer costs to the farmer.

  21. #71

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    Much of the inflation was already at a four-decade high before the attack in late February. The war will certainly make the situation worst.

  22. #72

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    Here is an article describing which foods have aeen the most inflation. This can be useful for those who need to economize during these times.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/econo...ces/index.html

  23. #73

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    Yikes! I knew it was going to be bad, but not this bad. 12% average food inflation over the last year. More for eggs, meat, and butter obviously. Anyone want to guess how much worst it will get?

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