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    Quote Originally Posted by AMinEdmond View Post
    What exactly does the "overhaul" mean? I've always wished for the day that there would be a bullet train from OKC to DFW, heck at this point I would take just a non-stop service from OKC to DFW. Also, OKC to Tulsa would be nice,
    The problem with OKC to Tulsa is that it would be a spur. The condition of the existing track between OKC and Tulsa is poor and it’s even worse as you go northeast toward St Louis. That would make the most sense as a connection (or north to Kansas City) but would be a major capital investment.

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    I wonder if the state showed any gall here (they're supposed to be legally required to pursue this per what the passenger rail OK twitter keeps saying), if the feds would then be willing to help. Such as if the state fully implemented the OKC-Tulsa line at it's cost, would the feds be willing to extend to STL, especially if MO contributed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I wonder if the state showed any gall here (they're supposed to be legally required to pursue this per what the passenger rail OK twitter keeps saying), if the feds would then be willing to help. Such as if the state fully implemented the OKC-Tulsa line at it's cost, would the feds be willing to extend to STL, especially if MO contributed.
    Possibly but there is little political will in Tulsa or in MO for this to happen, at least with current leadership. No mayors or more importantly congressmen to take up this issue.

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    Possibly but there is little political will in Tulsa or in MO for this to happen, at least with current leadership. No mayors or more importantly congressmen to take up this issue.
    Not sure about Tulsa to NE but Tulsa definitely should be connected to OKC via train. The last proposal was an absolute joke that absolutely no one in their right mind would take unless they were rail geeks wanting to check it out or someone just doing it for leisure. I-44 is in the beginning stages of being widened to 6 lanes and modernized for its entire stretch between OKC-Tulsa. At the very least, the turnpike authority should be working with leaders or vice versa really to preserve ROW and design it to be easy to place a double tracked train line. I don't think a train averaging 110-120MPH is much to ask for. Run it 4-5 times a day each way with limited weekend service and connect to each downtown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    The problem with OKC to Tulsa is that it would be a spur. The condition of the existing track between OKC and Tulsa is poor and it’s even worse as you go northeast toward St Louis. That would make the most sense as a connection (or north to Kansas City) but would be a major capital investment.
    I thought all the trillions in the infrastructure bill were for "major capital investments?"

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    Here’s the official Amtrak Connect Us website: https://www.amtrakconnectsus.com/?ut...5sTxrWooOcgLdM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Not sure about Tulsa to NE but Tulsa definitely should be connected to OKC via train. The last proposal was an absolute joke that absolutely no one in their right mind would take unless they were rail geeks wanting to check it out or someone just doing it for leisure. I-44 is in the beginning stages of being widened to 6 lanes and modernized for its entire stretch between OKC-Tulsa. At the very least, the turnpike authority should be working with leaders or vice versa really to preserve ROW and design it to be easy to place a double tracked train line. I don't think a train averaging 110-120MPH is much to ask for. Run it 4-5 times a day each way with limited weekend service and connect to each downtown.
    What do the projections show the ridership to be for this kind of service?

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    I would go to Tulsa on the regular if there were a train, and in particular to A LOT more of the shows there that are borderline of interest to me.

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    I would go to Tulsa on the regular if there were a train, and in particular to A LOT more of the shows there that are borderline of interest to me.
    Yes, this, absolutely. Can't afford to stay at a hotel there each time I'd go to a show, and no fun spending 90 minutes driving up there, going to a show after having dealt with that, then totally killing any kind of after-show buzz, enjoyment, high, whatever by driving 90 minutes home.

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    I just wish the OKC-Fort Worth train would run twice a day instead of once. Arriving at 9:30pm to OKC is not ideal.

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    Almost as if it's been set up to fail.

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    It's because air is what all cities push for travel between them. Rail is not looked on with a positive light in the US. It works inside the larger cities that have the density for it, but we're just not seeing the ask for it. It's the convenience factor that's at play here.

    Just like flying to DFW, if i take my own car, i can get there in the same amount of time it would have taken me to go through security/wait/fly/disembark, walk to the uber/etc. But now i get to come and go on my schedule instead the airline and have my own car to get around town. The same would be true for a Tulsa train. And it would have to be Uber because public transit in OKC/Tulsa is a joke. The only way this would work is for longer haul trips and only if it's cheaper and not a great deal slower than air. And that friends, is the slow death that rail has been experiencing. Without the helper money, the Heartland flyer, with it's stupid schedule, would already be dead. And what do we actually get out of it? It's nostalgia more than practicality.

    Now, you want to build a bullet train, that might work. Go between LA and SF, and you've got yourself a competitor to air. Dallas to Houston, Chicago to Indy, etc. But what's the bullet train need from OKC? It's not anything within a 6 hour drive. So where does it go?

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    Im not sure I agree that public transit in OKC is a joke. I was just there recently and saw PLENTY of busses in the city not just downtown (nothing amazing but still - there was plenty of transit more than ever and people were using it).
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    https://twitter.com/PassRailOK/statu...39800965648387

    Oklahoma House Approves HCR1003 for
    @Amtrak
    #HeartlandFlyer extension, OKC-Newton, Kansas and second frequency Ft. Worth-OKC-Wichita-Kansas City. On to senate next. Resolutions voices support for extension with no funding commitment.

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    That action is as worthless as House leadership. Consistent though.

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