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    Quote Originally Posted by C_M_25 View Post
    I saw the same thing and it’s a darn shame. People cite concerns over short and long-term safety; yet, they’re ignoring whats right in front of them. Long term covid effects are becoming better understood and it’s not good. High rates of people infected have neurological issues. Lung issues plague many even if they had few to no symptoms. It’s obvious that the long term effects of covid far outweigh the risks of the shot. It really is disappointing how bad people are at risk assessment in society.

    I know several people not getting the vaccine, and they really need it because if they catch covid, there’s a good chance it will be really bad for them. Sad...
    I got off the fence and got the vaccine due to the above reasons and because I haven't heard of anything bad happening to the first human test subjects that started a year ago. They're the canaries in the coal mine, apparently doing fine. People falling for the outrageous stories told about the vaccines is a highly unfortunate situation.

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    New poll shows that 26% of adults say they will not get vaccinated.

    Fully 44% (!!) of Republicans and only 8% of Democrats.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/polit...nes/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    New poll shows that 26% of adults say they will not get vaccinated.

    Fully 44% (!!) of Republicans and only 8% of Democrats.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/polit...nes/index.html
    And 28% of independents. The good news is, those numbers are all smaller than they were a month ago, and even smaller than they were a few months ago. It gives me more confidence that we can hit the 80-90% vaccinated eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    And 28% of independents. The good news is, those numbers are all smaller than they were a month ago, and even smaller than they were a few months ago. It gives me more confidence that we can hit the 80-90% vaccinated eventually.
    I'll bet you $100 that the USA will never get to 80% vaccinated, which is a sad bet... And just to be clear, I'd be really happy if we did hit 80%.

  7. #757

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    The key is to reach herd immunity before next fall and winter.

    It doesn't seem very likely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    I'll bet you $100 that the USA will never get to 80% vaccinated, which is a sad bet...
    Maybe, but if just 26% are currently saying they won't, that implies that 74% that are open or willing to it (or have already gotten it). And that number of folks who say they won't get it has been dropping in the polls I have seen. I believe at one point it was in the 40s. I've also seen multiple polls which seem to break down a lot of the resistance by age, and that definitely comes into it, with those on the right over 45 having a much higher rate of vaccination that those younger. I expect a lot of the younger ones may end up getting it eventually, even if they're resisting now, as more colleges and such offer vaccine clinics.

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    We are never going to get there in Oklahoma, you can pretty much take that to the bank.

  10. #760

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    We are never going to get there in Oklahoma, you can pretty much take that to the bank.
    I was thinking more nationwide. I agree we'll probably lag.

  11. #761

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    I was thinking more nationwide. I agree we'll probably lag.
    Based on local politics and how they directly influence the likelihood of vaccination, you can almost be guaranteed Oklahoma is going to finish at or very near the bottom.

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    Maybe the state health dept. or the stores like Wal-Mart will give out at least $20 gift cards to provide incentive.

    It might help if the canaries in the coal mine, the first human test subjects for the vaccines would promote getting the vaccine by reporting they are dong fine after a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    based on local politics and how they directly influence the likelihood of vaccination, you can almost be guaranteed oklahoma is going to finish at or very near the bottom.
    Since the software won't let me post in all caps, I'll spell it out - Business As Usual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    Maybe the state health dept. or the stores like Wal-Mart will give out at least $20 gift cards to provide incentive.

    It might help if the canaries in the coal mine, the first human test subjects for the vaccines would promote getting the vaccine by reporting they are dong fine after a year.
    I’m a bit surprised that Congress wouldn’t have allocated at least a Trillion or so to incentivize the more hesitant folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthOfTheVillage View Post
    I’m a bit surprised that Congress wouldn’t have allocated at least a Trillion or so to incentivize the more hesitant folks.

    We should do another round of stimulus checks tied to vaccinations. We probably should do that once there's an approved vaccine for children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    We should do another round of stimulus checks tied to vaccinations. We probably should do that once there's an approved vaccine for children.
    The problem with that is it can directly fuel the anti-vax fire. "See, I told you it was so bad for you they have to bribe people to get them"

    There is no winning this sheer stupidity and misinformation firestorm. I say that as one of the only members of my family who will get it. And of course, the vaccination rate in my family lies 100% on the political party of the family members. How do you overcome this?

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    From the Tulsa World:
    Oklahoma ranks No. 35 for the percentage of people fully vaccinated at 28.8%. Maine is first at 37.4%, while Alabama is worst at 22.0%.

    The state is No. 38 with 38.1% of its population having received at least one dose. New Hampshire is tops at 59.7%, and Mississippi last at 30.6%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    The problem with that is it can directly fuel the anti-vax fire. "See, I told you it was so bad for you they have to bribe people to get them"

    There is no winning this sheer stupidity and misinformation firestorm. I say that as one of the only members of my family who will get it. And of course, the vaccination rate in my family lies 100% on the political party of the family members. How do you overcome this?
    You are correct, and I predict it will go like this...

    A disease so deadly that you have to get tested to know you have it, and a vaccine so great that they have to pay you to receive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    From the Tulsa World:

    Oklahoma ranks No. 35 for the percentage of people fully vaccinated at 28.8%. Maine is first at 37.4%, while Alabama is worst at 22.0%.

    The state is No. 38 with 38.1% of its population having received at least one dose. New Hampshire is tops at 59.7%, and Mississippi last at 30.6%.
    And the race to the bottom begins.

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    Get outside the big cities and people are generally more skeptical of the vaccine. Same with some suburbs. Basically anywhere that voted heavily for Trump will have a much lower vaccine %.

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    Which would be kind of weird. The vaccines were effectively Trump's only solution to pandemic. He focused entirely on the end game, and then they won't participate when it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDP View Post
    Which would be kind of weird. The vaccines were effectively Trump's only solution to pandemic. He focused entirely on the end game, and then they won't participate when it happens.
    I know tons of trump supporters in Oklahoma who alll have been vaccinated. And many were at front of lines.
    I think the trump supporter narrative is more of just rural area where it hasn’t been as much of concern or much change to their life as it has in cities are less likely to want or feel need for it. Those areas just happen to be trump heavy areas.

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    I wonder if it might also fall on religious lines? Hard to tell without some sort of large study.

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    It's 100% political.

    44% of Republicans said they would refuse the vax; only 8% Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    I wonder if it might also fall on religious lines? Hard to tell without some sort of large study.
    If only 30% of the country has been fully vaccinated, clearly it’s not on religious nor political lines. The black and hispanic community vaccination rates lag behind any other demographic

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