Covid-19 Vaccine Information

[FighttheGoodFight]

Some already saying all 5000 are filled already. It was about 5 to 10 minutes after tweeted out.

[dankrutka]

The only risk in that type of situation is that the second shot might not be available in the window in which you need it.

That's my concern.

A lot of governments—including the Biden administration—are moving away from holding onto the second shot so more people can get more people the first shot. Statistically, it's a sound strategy even if there is some scientific uncertainty (there seems to be a belief that the first shot should still offer pretty solid protection for a while). In other words, I think a lot of people aren't going to be immediately scheduled for the second shot starting soon. Is that how other people understand it?

[mkjeeves]

A lot of governments—including the Biden administration—are moving away from holding onto the second shot so more people can get more people the first shot. Statistically, it's a sound strategy even if there is some scientific uncertainty (there seems to be a belief that the first shot should still offer pretty solid protection for a while). In other words, I think a lot of people aren't going to be immediately scheduled for the second shot starting soon. Is that how other people understand it?

That's not how I understand it in the US. The thought is the supply is stable enough there will be vaccines available when the time comes, no need to hold back.

The testing was done such that the second shots were done at specific times so know one knows for sure what happens in the particular with these if there is a delay between shots, but some think a delay for some weeks on the second shot is not that impactful over the long run.

Larger issue at the present is we don't have enough people giving shots. Oklahoma, and many other states, have way more vaccine than they are going to inject anytime soon and it keeps coming in faster then they are getting it out.

[HangryHippo]

Larger issue at the present is we don't have enough people giving shots. Oklahoma has way more vaccine than they are going to inject anytime soon and it keeps coming in faster then they are getting it out.

Where is this coming from? It’s not a problem @ OU.

[mkjeeves]

Where is this coming from? It’s not a problem @ OU.

We have more on ice than we have administered total. The gap has closed somewhat over the last few days.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...s#vaccinations

[HangryHippo]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...s#vaccinations

So it’s not an issue in OK then?

[mkjeeves]

Vaccine supply is not THE overriding issue in Oklahoma.

[mkjeeves]

“We had been holding back second doses as a safety stock,” Azar said on ABC. “We now believe that our manufacturing is predictable enough that we can ensure second doses are available for people from ongoing production. So everything is now available to our states and our health care providers.”

Simultaneously, he gave states the green light to dramatically expand the pool of people eligible to receive vaccines.

“We are calling on our governors to now vaccinate people aged 65 and over, and under age 65 with a (health condition) because we have got to expand the group,” he said.

As of Monday morning, the government had distributed about 25.5 million doses to states, U.S. territories and major cities. But only about 9 million people had received their first shot. That means only about 35% of the available vaccines had been administered.

Initially, the shots were going to health care workers and nursing home residents. Those 75 and older were next in line. But problems arose even in vaccinating that limited pool of people. Some hospital and nursing home workers have been hesitant to get the vaccine. Scheduling issues created delays in getting shots to nursing homes.

Some states, including Arizona, have or are planning to open up mass vaccination centers, aiming to inoculate thousands of people a day in a single location. In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis opened up vaccinations to people 65 and older. In other states, local health authorities have started asking residents 65 an older to register, in anticipation the vaccination campaign would be expanded.

“We’ve got to get to more channels of administration,” said Azar. “We’ve got to get it to pharmacies, get it to community health centers.

“We will deploy teams to support states doing mass vaccination efforts if they wish to do so,” he added.

https://apnews.com/article/us-corona...71dcd6700d729b

It's time for Oklahoma to step up. (As well as the rest of the country.) We can keep using the broken portal for those invested in it but we also need mass vaccination centers running.

[Jersey Boss]

The vaccination centers should be staffed 12 hours a day, 7 days a week at a minimum. Use the Air and National Guard health professionals to supplament those administering vaccines now.

[HangryHippo]

I still fail to see where the number of people giving the vaccine is the issue... There are a number of issues, but that doesn’t seem to be one.

[Jersey Boss]

Vaccine supply is not THE overriding issue in Oklahoma.

The head of the OU covid program would disagree on your assessment of vaccine supply.

OU Health vaccinating less than 50 percent potential daily capacity, Bratzler says | Coronavirus | oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/coronavirus/o...2c5302e2b.html

[Jersey Boss]

I still fail to see where the number of people giving the vaccine is the issue... There are a number of issues, but that doesn’t seem to be one.

The problem on where the bottle necks are is hard to address when the Stitt administration hides and blurs relevant information.

[mkjeeves]

The head of the OU covid program would disagree on your assessment of vaccine supply.

OU Health vaccinating less than 50 percent potential daily capacity, Bratzler says | Coronavirus | oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/coronavirus/o...2c5302e2b.html

I keep reading locals saying they don’t have vaccine and yet the CDC consistently reports we have had 2-3 times as much in our hands as we have administered. (I’ve been watching the numbers week over week.)

Is the CDC lying? My money is on a problem(s) in Oklahoma.

[HangryHippo]

The problem on where the bottle necks are is hard to address when the Stitt administration hides and blurs relevant information.

100%!!

[mkjeeves]

The problem on where the bottle necks are is hard to address when the Stitt administration hides and blurs relevant information.

Without a doubt. We need to cut through the shortage bs and hold the local government accountable.

[HangryHippo]

Without a doubt. We need to cut through the shortage bs and hold the local government accountable.

Also 100%!

[king183]

Vaccine supply is most certainly the overriding issue, currently. mkjeeves, the issue you're seeing with the gap between doses distributed to OK and doses administered is a result of two things:

1) we are holding back a substantial number of those doses for the 2nd dose. That policy may change with the announcement this morning from the Trump administration. If Oklahoma ceases to hold back the 2nd dose, which seems likely, we will see that gap close faster;

2) the vaccine scheduling tool went live later than anticipated, so we had effectively been stockpiling vaccine while we waited for the ability to schedule broader administration. With the scheduling tool live and appointments being scheduled, you should see a drastic reduction in the distributed/administered gap. In fact, we've already seen that reduction. Just last week, we were around 30% of distributed doses administered. Today, we are closer to 50%. That gap will close.

We have the infrastructure to administer. We just need more supply. But as I noted in another thread, ceteris paribus, I expect to see demand plateau in mid-Feb or March and we will then have more supply than demand.

[Jersey Boss]

I keep reading locals saying they don’t have vaccine and yet the CDC consistently reports we have had 2-3 times as much in our hands as we have administered. (I’ve been watching the numbers week over week.)

Is the CDC lying? My money is on a problem(s) in Oklahoma.

There is no basis whatsoever to take the word of Oklahoma state government officials over the word of CDC officials.
Additionally there is no basis to believe Stitt over the word of MD's running vaccination programs.

[David]

There's no basis to believe Stitt if he put out a press release that the sky is blue.

[jn1780]

The head of the OU covid program would disagree on your assessment of vaccine supply.

OU Health vaccinating less than 50 percent potential daily capacity, Bratzler says | Coronavirus | oudaily.com
http://www.oudaily.com/coronavirus/o...2c5302e2b.html

The second paragraph tells you where the problem lies: Federal level. States can only give what the feds give them. Oklahoma has actually received vaccine allotments from the slower moving states. After todays announcement there will be more vaccine available. But even after releasing the reserves, there will come a time a few weeks into the future where we will be constricted to manufacturing supply.

The states will also be responsible for fitting in second dose people in the vaccination flow so this is going to impact the delta for first time vaccinations.

President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is holding back half of the national supply of vaccines to ensure individuals who receive the first vaccine shot will be able to complete the recommended two-shot treatment. President-elect Joe Biden has vowed to release “nearly all available doses” closely following his Jan. 20 inauguration, giving some Oklahoma health leaders hope more vaccines will arrive soon.

[Jersey Boss]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Oklahoma Numbers. 381,375 doses distributed to the state. 157,843 first time vaccinations administered.

[mkjeeves]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Oklahoma Numbers. 381,375 doses distributed to the state. 157,843 first time vaccinations administered.

10 days ago it was 180,000 received. 58,000 used.
The week after that it was 297,000 received 103,000 used.

[FighttheGoodFight]

As of today we are number 10 in administered per 100k. Good news.

[king183]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Oklahoma Numbers. 381,375 doses distributed to the state. 157,843 first time vaccinations administered.

Just a note on this: we report dose distribution on Tuesday. These numbers were just updated about 1 hour ago. Prior to the update, it was 310,000 doses distributed and 154,000 administered. So, CDC distributed another 71k doses, but our administration data is lagging. We are vaccinating approximately 13,500 people per day, though the update today only showed ~3k. The 13,500 people per day should accelerate and we will likely hit 500k vaccinated by the end of the month or first week of February, assuming dose availability.

Edit/Note: If the FDA would authorize the AstraZeneca vaccine today, supply issues would likely disappear. Millions of AZ doses are ready in Baltimore.

[BDP]

We are vaccinating approximately 13,500 people per day, though the update today only showed ~3k. [

Where is the daily vaccination number reported?