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    Good. Now murder charges need to be filed.

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    Hope justice given to these officers for this unnecessary death of this individual.

    No person already handcuffed should be treated like what you see on this video.

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    Will be interested to hear what the medical examiner states is the cause of death and the timeline for when the officers called for the ambulance.

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    Here’s the 10 minute video, what a senseless travesty.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CUzlr_1590497244

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    The officer holding his knee on neck murdered him plain and simple. He should never see freedom again in his miserable life. If Minny has death sentence then he should be hanged. Most officers place knee on back and only to cuff. He held knee on neck for over 10 minutes, and didn’t even check on him. The others were accessory to murder and could have stopped it too.

    I hope justice is fast and they get harshest penalties allowed by law.

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    This is manslaughter. While there was no intent (not murder), incompetence does not excuse negligence, which does not excuse a civilians death. All should be tried for manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    This is manslaughter. While there was no intent (not murder), incompetence does not excuse negligence, which does not excuse a civilians death. All should be tried for manslaughter.
    Manslaughter!? These pigs murdered this guy. That is all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Manslaughter!? These pigs murdered this guy. That is all there is to it.
    Murder implies intent. I don't think they intended to kill him, and any marginally decent lawyer will be able to argue that. Manslaughter does not imply intent, and is very easy to prove, given this video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    Murder implies intent. I don't think they intended to kill him, and any marginally decent lawyer will be able to argue that. Manslaughter does not imply intent, and is very easy to prove, given this video.
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

    609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
    (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

    609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
    (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
    Yup. They had a shooting a couple of years ago where an officer, when startled, accidently fired a shot through a window and killed a woman. Got sentenced to prison for third degree murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

    609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
    (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
    I had never even heard of 3rd degree murder. Seems like voluntary manslaughter, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    This is manslaughter. While there was no intent (not murder), incompetence does not excuse negligence, which does not excuse a civilians death. All should be tried for manslaughter.
    I work for a law enforcement training center that has a ton of force on force training that all officers have to attend. I’m sure that police force has similar requirements. The officer knew what force was required and acceptable. Even with that knowledge he went WAY over the line. To me that qualifies as murder. The other three should get manslaughter for not stopping it.

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    Manslaughter my ass. If someone held their knee over your neck until you quit breathing, they murdered you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Manslaughter my ass. If someone held their knee over your neck until you quit breathing, they murdered you.
    https://www.sevenslegal.com/criminal...slaughter/281/

    I don't think they set out intending to kill someone. Not one bit. But incompetence does not excuse manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Manslaughter my ass. If someone held their knee over your neck until you quit breathing, they murdered you.
    Right. Floyd gave fair warning when he said "I can't breathe". It's not worth arguing if he could really breathe, because the last person who said that died. It eventually appeared Floyd wasn't even able to try to say that he couldn't breathe. I'm glad the cop got charged with something and hopefully won't get away with it.

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    And this stuff is what makes the other racist event in the news so scary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acIbrs4d8-Y

    Luckily this one didn't escalate like it could have.

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    Pigs

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    I bet the officer argues he was taught to use this and apparently their policy manual lists the neck restraint as a non-lethal option. Obviously it looks like the policy was misapplied in this circumstance.

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    I hope they get life sentence in prison, I hear prisoners really like police officers sharing the cell block.

    Thin blue line, my ass.

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    From the Chicago Tribune: In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect’s neck is allowed under the department’s use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway. It is considered a “non-deadly force option,” according to the department’s policy handbook.

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    OMG, this is worse than I thought...

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CUzlr_1590497244

    Whatever he did this individual didn't deserve to be executed on the spot by police acting as judge, jurors and executioners.

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    Looks like the riots are starting to get pretty bad. Was shocked by some of the video I saw on Twitter. I suppose the military will need to intervene soon.

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    I don't think I will ever understand how riots like this accomplish anything. They have burnt down an apartment complex and an Autozone, looted and destroyed an entire Target, and destroyed countless other establishments. One person was even killed last night. They are lucky the Autozone didn't explode with the amount of chemicals that are sold in there.

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    Because peaceful protests and strongly worded letters have been so effective up until now? No , I don't support rioting and certainly the loss of life is tragic. But I understand the anger and where it's coming from. Even if I can't fully understand the experience.

    …I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention. - Martin Luther King Jr

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