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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    ^ Everything in life has a cost. If unity during a public health emergency is the highest priority then you will need to get the leaders on both sides on board. I think unity path is a quicker and uses less state power than forcings the population into compliance or voting out the current leadership. When are the elections? November? What will be the case count by then?
    I understand what you are saying and don't mean to attack. We're all frustrated and worried and looking for a way to change the trends.


    To be fair, Biden has reached out to Fox News and it seems to be having at least a slight effect.

    But our own bloody governor won't even encourage Oklahomans to get a free and widely available vaccine. He was directly asked and flatly said 'no'. I don't care what you think and what you believe, that is completely unbelievable, yet it continues with no real consequence.

    If people would just put political bias aside and put pressure on him from within is his own party, that would make a massive difference. And he is up for reelection soon and that is the best possible leverage. But here we are with his supporters/enablers doing next to zero. And then hypocritically pontificate about 'personal responsibility' and 'freedom'.

    We can talk all day long about leaders but it is people that give and continue to provide the power and influence.

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    I think anti-vaxxers are a lot worse than politicians in putting out false info. I hope the anti-vaxxers are subject to civil lawsuits.

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    Completely avoidable tragedies. I am fearful for my family, as they are mostly all anti-vaxxers. As mentioned above I have two family members in critical condition right now - haven’t heard updates yet. But my immediate family is still calling this a hoax, “the China Flu”, and other nonsense.

    I am angry at the people responsible for starting the conspiracy theories and those who continue to push them. This is just ridiculous.

  5. #10655

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    I am angry at the people responsible for starting the conspiracy theories and those who continue to push them. This is just ridiculous.
    I try to imagine how this will be explained to future generations.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is the absolute dumbest thing to ever happen in the U.S., especially since there is a simple, easy and free way to fix this problem.

  6. #10656

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    I am angry at the people responsible for starting the conspiracy theories and those who continue to push them. This is just ridiculous.
    Like this guy:

    The most influential spreader of coronavirus misinformation online

    It's really just a few scammers inventing it with politicians and infotainment outlets capitalizing on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDP View Post
    Like this guy:

    The most influential spreader of coronavirus misinformation online

    It's really just a few scammers inventing it with politicians and infotainment outlets capitalizing on it.
    But very high-profile politicians are feeding directly into the distrust.

    And you also have lots of bots from Russia and elsewhere fanning these flames. Of course, none of that would matter much if we had responsible leadership here.

    As it is, you have tons of governors and congressmen advancing the core idea that there is something unsafe about the vaccine -- and more importantly -- directly or indirectly making people feel like they are being disloyal to their party if they get vaccinated. It's so incredibly messed up but also simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    I think anti-vaxxers are a lot worse than politicians in putting out false info. I hope the anti-vaxxers are subject to civil lawsuits.
    +1, but i’m not sure how you could ever quantify the damages. Would be a difficult exercise for even a smart jury. And most of them aren’t.

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    ‘Unsafe about the virus’- I think you mean unsafe about the vaccine, but we get your point. Unforgivable behavior by the politicians, in any case.

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    3,669 new cases reported today for the 3-day period. Last several Mondays: 2,126, 1,211, 1,041, 580, 451.

    7-day rolling average now 1,159.

    Hospitalizations are 519 (+24).

    ICU is 165 (+6)

  11. #10661

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    The first week of June was when case numbers and other metrics were at their lowest.

    In just 7 weeks:

    Average daily cases increased from 111 to 1,159; more than a 10-fold increase.

    Hospitalizations went from 109 to 519; a 5-fold increase.

    ICU went from 30 to 165; an almost 6-fold increase.

    Remember that hospital and ICU numbers are lagging indicators, but highly correlated to the number of positive cases.


    And we are back to the numbers we were seeing in mid-February before the benefits of the vaccine started to kick in.

    We are also in worse shape than we were a year ago and the upward trend is considerably stronger.

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    OK climbed a spot to no. 8 in cases/100k and since we are now 7th in average new daily cases/100k it will only get worse. Govs from FL, AL & AR all have been recently urging their citizens to get vaccinated. Stitt has been completely silent. What a huge lack of leadership on his part.

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    UK just rolled over hard a couple of days ago as well as a few other countries. I expect the same for the US in about 2 to 3 weeks at least for the summer.

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    Also consider that during the winter/early spring, we still had stores requiring masks and social distancing. Now its life back to "normal". How many people do you all still see social distancing or wearing masks? Very few. I've been called out in stores by employees because I've asked people to please social distance. "you have no right to talk to other custumers like that" Leave the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    OK climbed a spot to no. 8 in cases/100k and since we are now 7th in average new daily cases/100k it will only get worse. Govs from FL, AL & AR all have been recently urging their citizens to get vaccinated. Stitt has been completely silent. What a huge lack of leadership on his part.
    He had strong anti-vax leanings before he was elected.

    That's absurd in the best of times but catastrophic in a pandemic.


    And keep in mind, he is getting almost no pressure from anyone in his party; certainly not local voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I try to imagine how this will be explained to future generations.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is the absolute dumbest thing to ever happen in the U.S., especially since there is a simple, easy and free way to fix this problem.
    Add to that the deliberate lies about the election by conspiratorial truthers, which even our own Congressional delegation has played around with, and you're looking at something rivaling the worst periods in history for any nation, and often (usually?) a precursor to an authoritarian dictatorship. But we can't say the person's name out loud.

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    I now know four people to get COVID19 in the last few weeks. You can already guess what they had in common.

    Just sad really.

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    I know several who are vaxxed and got it too. So far none of them has gotten very sick.

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    Somebody I know was part of those statistics one of those days. Runs liberal, but wellness community. I can fill in the blanks if anybody here doesn't know where that goes...

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    In the past three weeks, know more people who had the vaccine and got COVID than those that did not have the vaccine who go it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emtefury View Post
    In the past three weeks, know more people who had the vaccine and got COVID than those that did not have the vaccine who go it.
    Right, but for vaccinated folks breakthrough cases tend to be asympomatic or mild. This is somewhat expected as vaccinated people are often going on about their lives since they are largely protected. Early evidence suggests vaccinated people are also less likely to spread COVID to others when infected.

    The risk of a COVID case for an unvaccinated person with the dominant Delta variant is now more harmful for hospitalizations, death, and spread than it ever has been in the pandemic.

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    Also, you probably know more vaccinated people than unvaccinated people, so the fact that you know more breakthroughs than regular infections really doesn't tell us much, anecdotally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    Right, but for vaccinated folks breakthrough cases tend to be asympomatic or mild. This is somewhat expected as vaccinated people are often going on about their lives since they are largely protected. Early evidence suggests vaccinated people are also less likely to spread COVID to others when infected.

    The risk of a COVID case for an unvaccinated person with the dominant Delta variant is now more harmful for hospitalizations, death, and spread than it ever has been in the pandemic.
    One of the best explanations I have heard regarding the protections you get both as a vaccinated person and specifically as a vaccinated person who gets a breakthrough case (and why breakthroughs happen to begin with) can be found in this article today from The Atlantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I try to imagine how this will be explained to future generations.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is the absolute dumbest thing to ever happen in the U.S., especially since there is a simple, easy and free way to fix this problem.
    You're too optimistic.

    We are in Idiocracy times, where satire has become reality. I fear it's only going to get worse.

  25. #10675

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    Here comes the masks indoors again, even for the vaccinated.

    So like... This is never going to end until the unvaccinated die, right?

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