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    Default Gilcrease Tollway Extension

    Part of the Driving forward initiative this project will compete the western loop in Tulsa metro area. This is a great project and broke ground today though the way I understand it major construction wonít begin or be noticed until November.

    Perhaps Iím mistaken, but it seems this road will go from I-44/I-244 interchange crossing US-412 all the Tidesdale PWY? I only see the maps showing it going to US-412.

    Anyways here are some linksó

    Project website: https://www.drivingforwardok.com/gilcrease-expressway

    City twitter account post with renderings: https://twitter.com/cityoftulsagov/s...907317760?s=21

    Iíd post more pictures and maps but Iím using my phone and itís a pain in the ass.

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    A couple semi-related notes:

    I-44 turner turnpike expansion is soon to enter its last phase with public input and presentation meetings soon to come or just completed. This will widen the stretch from Sapulpa to the 244 split to six lanes. It seems like modifications to this interchange will be needed for the expansion and the Gilcrease tollway project.

    The way I understand it a fully controlled access from Gilcrease Tollway and the 412 Is not planned. Hopefully this, the Tidesdale, and I-44 interchanges are made into a five stack and not half assed.

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    I also thought this was supposed to go from 244/44 all the way around to Tisdale Parkway...?

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    Hopefully it does. The way tulsa worded their twitter post insinuates it will.

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    It will. They already have a small portion of it expanded west of LL Tisdale to N 41st W. Ave. that they did a few years back. I believe it's supposed to tie in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jompster View Post
    It will. They already have a small portion of it expanded west of LL Tisdale to N 41st W. Ave. that they did a few years back. I believe it's supposed to tie in there.
    It's just a two lane section from the Tisdale to 41st W Ave. The "northwest leg" hasn't been built yet and will connect this section to the south leg which will end at 412. I don't know the timeline for getting the northwest leg completed, or for eventually making the entire highway 4 lanes.


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    That’s pretty lame. Oklahoma needs to start building larger. It’s nice this segment is being done. Tulsa’s freeway infrastructure is a joke and is horribly underinvested in by OkDOT. OTA has done nice and I-44 is a arguably the best urban freeway in the state as far as the wow factor and when crosstown in OKC gets developed I suspect it will surpass it, IMO.

    They aren’t even building a controlled access interchange at 412.

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    How come on the project website it says this:

    This project connects L.L. Tisdale to I-44 and completes the Western loop around the Tulsa metro area.
    That implies two projects one connecting Gilcrease to 412 and another connecting Gilcrease to Tisdale or so it seems as Tisdale would connect to I-44 via Gilcrease. They worded that weirdly.

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    It will be interesting to see what growth this highway brings to Tulsa. The northwest is largely hills and trees but within 2-3 miles of downtown, which is pretty unique for a city this size. There is a New Urbanist neighborhood planned for the area close to 33rd W Ave & Edison and some new neighborhoods planned near the Osage Casino. This area is Tulsa schools which can be an issue for attracting new families. They may have to go the Wheeler Park route and have neighborhood-based charter schools.

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    Hopefully Tulsa establishes a metro wide LRT system soon and not the half assed type like OKC built.

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    The plans I saw were for the western extension tollway to end at US64/412. A 2 lane extension will tie in with 57th West Ave just north of Edison. I've not seen any mention of tieing this section to the teh rest at eh Tisdale intersection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    It will be interesting to see what growth this highway brings to Tulsa. The northwest is largely hills and trees but within 2-3 miles of downtown, which is pretty unique for a city this size. There is a New Urbanist neighborhood planned for the area close to 33rd W Ave & Edison and some new neighborhoods planned near the Osage Casino. This area is Tulsa schools which can be an issue for attracting new families. They may have to go the Wheeler Park route and have neighborhood-based charter schools.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason that NW Tulsa is so undeveloped is largely related to the boundaries of Osage Nation being so close to Downtown, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEMIweather View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason that NW Tulsa is so undeveloped is largely related to the boundaries of Osage Nation being so close to Downtown, right?
    I donít think so. The majority of Tulsa is within the boundary of the Creek Nation and it hasnít impacted development. It has largely due to lack of access/infrastructure, generally poor schools and hilly terrain. The revitalization of downtown has created more of an interest in developing this scenic part of the city.

    Looking east over NW Tulsa toward downtown from the Canyons at Blackjack Ridge golf course

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    Good thing tulsa didn’t flatten its hills like LA did. I wonder if the city ever considered that. LA originally was planning on leveling many more hills than it did from what I read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    I don’t think so. The majority of Tulsa is within the boundary of the Creek Nation and it hasn’t impacted development. It has largely due to lack of access/infrastructure, generally poor schools and hilly terrain. The revitalization of downtown has created more of an interest in developing this scenic part of the city.
    Thanks for the correction. I guess I had always just assumed that was the case because otherwise it seems crazy to me that there are subdivisions clear out to the farthest reaches of the Creek Turnpike, and meanwhile there is just nothing even a few miles NW of Downtown.

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