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    Default Re: Pedestrian Bridge planned accross Northwest Expressway & Wilshire Boulevard

    I like the visual showing a woman with a stroller looking dolefully at the stairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Since one of the intended uses (if not the major purpose) is to connect bike/walking trails, this location makes sense.
    Correct. But I think its a mistake. No one from north side will use it they would go to lake and are already on that side. There is no shopping to walk over it for, I guess they can walk to OnCue? Its a catch 22. I know they mated up paths but its not going to be used much for the cost.

    Too bad they couldn’t have made the path elsewhere it just seems for the walker there is not much reason to use it. If a person walked from north to south over this bridge where is there to go? If you want to go east you would have to walk on NWE since no sidewalk next to that pond. It would be easier to just walk up to Mac and use that crosswalk. Same going from south to north not much there.

    So in other words is 90% for bikers to use path set out long time ago. I wish we could have done a bundle deal and got at least 2 more to put other 2 in more walker useful areas. Especially Penn with the new Oak going up in future.

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    just build another one near Oak and Penn Square/50 Penn Place..

    No reason why we need to only build one pedestrian bridge when there are actually many needs and that is a massive one, eh Pete?
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Default Re: Pedestrian Bridge planned accross Northwest Expressway & Wilshire Boulevard

    ^

    Once you cross NW Expressway, it's still almost impossible to walk to Penn Square Mall.

    There are no sidewalks; you have to do battle with all the cars streaming in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    ^

    Once you cross NW Expressway, it's still almost impossible to walk to Penn Square Mall.

    There are no sidewalks; you have to do battle with all the cars streaming in there.
    NW Expressway between May & Classen has my vote for worst pedestrian experience in all of OKC, relative to what it should be. Trying to cross under I-44 is downright dangerous. The whole area is a major retail & economic hub for the city that is crying out for improvements, hopefully something gets done in that regard over the next 5-10 years. Really, it's well overdue for better pedestrian access but I'm trying to keep realistic expectations. It would be nice if something could be done in concert with the impending I-44 Belle Isle Bridge reconstruction.

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    I've posted this before but I live just south of NW Ex and west of Penn and I've tried walking across the expressway and to the mall and it's almost impossible.

    There are now sidewalks all through my neighborhood (they all lead to a school in the center) and a decent pedestrian crossing on the west side of Penn across NW Ex. But once you get to the north side, you just can't get to the mall. No sidewalks on the east side of Penn, big embankment if you manage to dangerously work your way over there. No ped crossing at Belleview (the light to the north of NW Ex) and even if there was, no way to get to the mall without dodging the crazy car traffic flooding in.

    And then if you wind your way through the Belle Isle neighborhood to get to Villa and the library, you simply can't cross NW Ex again. There is no crosswalk, no pedestrian signals and the intersection is so wide, you can barely run (and I mean RUN) across NW Expressway even if a car trips a light for you.

    And of course, there are no sidewalks along NW Ex on either side. So, literally no way for people south of the expressway to walk or ride a bike to the library.

    It's one of the most comically bad pedestrian experiences you could ever dream up.

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    Default Re: Pedestrian Bridge planned accross Northwest Expressway & Wilshire Boulevard

    I had similar experiences with attempting to just walk to the mall a few times in December to avoid the Christmas mall parking experience. I live a bit further to the south, and while the sidewalk up the west side of Penn works nicely to get to the general area, once you are there you have zero options for safely crossing either Penn or NW expressway. It's all Ward 2 so I suppose I should send a message to James Cooper about it.

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    Default Re: Pedestrian Bridge planned accross Northwest Expressway & Wilshire Boulevard

    There's a bus stop at Penn Square, north of NW Exp. I've used that stop before. That might actually be the most pedestrian friendly way to cross. :-)

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    Default Re: Pedestrian Bridge planned accross Northwest Expressway & Wilshire Boulevard

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Since one of the intended uses (if not the major purpose) is to connect bike/walking trails, this location makes sense.
    Nice, if the ramps have been thought out by a bicycle rider. And, will the city fix the trail at I-40?

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