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    Classen Dowell NW 17 & Classen

    https://newsok.com/article/5606999/a...t-to-disappear

    Probably better than what's there/higher use, which I appreciate. But not looking forward to that tile Dowell loves making its way to Classen. Is there design review here? Not that it could/should stop anything that's happening here, just wondering.

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    Yes, the area on the east side of Classen from Reno to approx. 30th (which this is) falls under design review.

    This project has yet to be submitted although Dowell has filed for a building permit.

    No way this passes design review.

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    Cool (that there will be design review)

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    This gas station is coming down today. Meant to report that I saw bulldozers the other day but forgot and Steve tweeted the action today.

    https://twitter.com/stevelackmeyer/s...92445719666689

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    From today. Dowell has still yet to file with design review.


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    Why rush? He's probably got a 50-year plan for developing this property. /s

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    I've been wanting to mentino this for awhile now. So frustrating. Why demo if your'e going to leave it this way. The sidewalk obstruction alone is maddening here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I've been wanting to mentino this for awhile now. So frustrating. Why demo if your'e going to leave it this way. The sidewalk obstruction alone is maddening here.
    In this case, demo was an improvement even if nothing is ever built there.

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    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    In this case, demo was an improvement even if nothing is ever built there.
    Perhaps but geeze don't leave it all torn up like that

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    I won't be empty...

    There is a sign up promoting Dowell parking downtown (for some odd reason).

    Also, very sure that sign did not go through the proper approval process.

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    I think he just had a crap ton of those signs made at once so he throws them up on all his properties whenever possible until challenged.

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    SO glad this is now completely gone! It was a huge eye sore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaNick View Post
    SO glad this is now completely gone! It was a huge eye sore!
    Soon to be replaced (in 15 years) by a cinderblock structure with red Spanish roof tiles and completely darkened windows.

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    Ummm 15 years...really...that quick?

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    I have never laughed so hard at a post on okctalk! You made my night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    Soon to be replaced (in 15 years) by a cinderblock structure with red Spanish roof tiles and completely darkened windows.
    I have never laughed so hard at a post on okctalk! You made my night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    Soon to be replaced (in 15 years) by a cinderblock structure with red Spanish roof tiles and completely darkened windows.

    Meanwhile, OG&E are giving out these customized placeholders--if you apply now, they can ship you one in 4 years.

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    Nothing has happened here besides Dowell advertising for his downtown monthly parking. When is the City going to call him out on his BS? He is the worst developer in the city, I guess developer is an extremely loose term for him. more of a slumlord.

    He tore down the gas station and left a torn up plot of dirt that looks absolutely terrible. I am so sick of structures being demolished then sitting empty. I would rather have that awful looking abandon gas station than what is there now.

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    ^

    He has not even submitted his plans for design review and when he gets around to that, there is no way they will allow what he is proposing.

    I suspect nothing will happen here for quite a while.

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    Then why on earth did he get approval for demo? There should clearly be a rule that allows demo only after all plans have been approved and a timeline established.

    Obviously this isn’t nearly the scale of stage center but still absolutely redicilous this continues. Especially with somebody with the track record Dowell does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sroberts24 View Post
    Then why on earth did he get approval for demo? There should clearly be a rule that allows demo only after all plans have been approved and a timeline established.

    Obviously this isn’t nearly the scale of stage center but still absolutely redicilous this continues. Especially with somebody with the track record Dowell does.
    1 that isn't a rule ...

    and 2 it wouldn't be enforceable in any event ..


    and 3?? a track record of development??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    ^

    He has not even submitted his plans for design review and when he gets around to that, there is no way they will allow what he is proposing.

    I suspect nothing will happen here for quite a while.
    This parcel is not in a design district, so are you just saying it wouldn't pass code or the base zoning? It's zoned C-4 and overlaid with the Classen Boulevard Overlay, which only covers:

    "13250.3. District Use Regulations.

    A. In the office and commercial zoning districts, metal building façades shall be prohibited on primary buildings where the metal façade would be visible from the street. However, metal roofs are permitted and coated aluminum siding may be used to cover clapboards on existing buildings.

    B. For the portion of the district south of NW 36th Street, the required off-street parking need not be located on the same site as the principal use, but shall be located within 200 feet of the site measured from a point on the property line of the site closest to the parking area."

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