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    Zoo proposing "world-class" aquarium for MAPS 4
    by Miguel Rios

    Oklahoma City Zoological Park and Botanical Garden (OKC Zoo) officials hope an aquarium proposal will be included in the MAPS 4 package. The vision is for a 100,000 square-foot “world-class attraction” that would cost $100-$150 million. It could be integrated into a Bricktown Canal extension that would cost an additional $1.5 million.



    In 1990, city residents approved a one-eighth-cent sales tax to support the zoo permanently. With a dedicated funding source already in place, OKC Zoo executive director Dwight Lawson said the zoo could easily operate and potentially fund part of the project.

    “We’re able to generate pretty good capital funds on a regular basis, so we have the potential to, in essence, save up money to support part of a project like this. So MAPS would not have to fund the entire venture,” Lawson said. “It would be a 365-day-a-year attraction that was both available to local families as well as tourists. It has a big, strong education component. It has a potential for partnerships with schools and universities and things like that.”

    Though the project had gotten some buzz before the MAPS 4 special meetings were announced, it did not appear as its own formal agenda item at any of the four meetings. Instead, Ward 7 councilwoman Nikki Nice brought it up under “other projects brought forward by councilmembers.”



    “I’m not entirely sure how they came up with the slate,” Lawson said. “I believe that the council did some polling via the [Greater Oklahoma City Chamber] that may have influenced that. I’m not privy to the exact methods.”

    The chamber’s MAPS polls have never been made public in the past. However, OKC Zoo hosted seven focus groups last December to gauge community reactions to the idea of a standalone aquarium.

    “We did a focus group with a random sample of our members, and then we did some exit polling of visitors here at the zoo about how they felt about it and a couple of things that they might want to see,” Lawson said. “Those groups were pretty positive about it. Granted, that’s a bit of preaching to the choir since it’s our audience, but they liked the idea.”

    Canal destination
    Don Hayes of Hayes Brokerage presented the proposal Aug. 6 and said the idea is to extend the Bricktown Canal into the aquarium, giving it a destination. He said they received a $1.5 million quote for the extension from the canal’s engineer.



    “One of the reasons Nikki has grabbed onto it is because it’s her ward, first of all. Second of all, the canal doesn’t go anywhere. It just goes down and turns around,” Hayes said. “So we said, ‘What if we gave the canal a destination?’ so that when people are coming into Bricktown and they want to know what’s in the canal taxi, well, it goes all the way over to the Oklahoma City aquarium; inside the aquarium, as a matter of fact. We can make it a Disney-type affair.”

    The canal would be extended westbound, and the aquarium would be constructed adjacent to Summit Gyms at OKC Silos. Hayes envisions a wall of glass within the aquarium where you could see aquatic animals. He said the city could even continue extending the canal to Scissortail Park in the future.

    “We could make that thing unbelievable,” Hayes said.



    Since the idea is still in the early stages and there is no certainty on the inclusion of the project in MAPS 4, Lawson said they are “a little coy and noncommittal” in terms of the location. Through a feasibility study, OKC Zoo had already identified several potential locations last year.

    “As part of the MAPS process, you really don’t commit to a particular site,” he said. “MAPS or no, if we’re able to move forward with this at some point, I think there are some sites downtown that would still be really good. The Producers District being one of them. I think the canal extension was the brainchild of some of the developers downtown, so that would be a nice fit, but we want to stay [open-minded]. ... If it’s not part of MAPS, that makes it much more difficult for us, and we’re going to have to regroup and think about how to go about it.”

    An economic impact study estimates the aquarium would “receive 600,000 visitors per year with a gross operating budget of $13 million per year after initial construction costs ranging from $110 million to $150 million.” Additionally, the estimated economic impact from visitor expenditures ranges from $27 million to $80 million “while supporting 305 to 915” local jobs.

    “At this point, this thing is so packed with opportunity for promotion for Oklahoma City and our tourist industry. It’s incredible,” Hayes said. “I think it would pumpstart, jumpstart, hit the reboot button on Bricktown and that water taxi.”


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    I LOVE his Idea. A BOLD proposal

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    I mean I love it. Just don’t know why they waited so long. City council has like 6 days to decide. Although if Nice is on board it’s probably a slam dunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopokes88 View Post
    I mean I love it. Just don’t know why they waited so long. City council has like 6 days to decide. Although if Nice is on board it’s probably a slam dunk.
    I even LOVE the images of what it could look like.

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    Canal extension? OKC Zoo run Aquarium? They want to give it a unique look and make it world class? Yes. Yes. Yes and yes. Just PLEASE actually build other establishments on the Canal front. The Southside of the Canal is just so sad outside of a few things.

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    Imagine the sea of parking around this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny d View Post
    Imagine the sea of parking around this.
    Nothing several canal front parking garages can't fix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbafone View Post
    Nothing several canal front parking garages can't fix!
    It’ll have retail on the bottom floor though

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopokes88 View Post
    I mean I love it. Just don’t know why they waited so long. City council has like 6 days to decide. Although if Nice is on board it’s probably a slam dunk.
    They did present at one of the MAPS4 meetings but only after not being allowed as one of the 'official' presenters.

    They only reason they received a small amount of time is because Nikki Nice brought it up.


    This isn't just any proposal... They have the Zoo behind which already has partial funding.


    The question is: why were they not give the same opportunity to present as the other proposals?

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    Wow, LOVE this. As in, I can't say how much I LOVE this. I might love this more than any transit idea even. If I were to rank all the ideas this one immediately goes to the top. I know it's conceptual, but I love their renderings and ideas of a canal extension too.

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    Lots of questions about why this project was not given the opportunity to have a proper presentation at the MAPS 4 public meetings. They had almost 20 presentations and here is this bold, "think big" project backed by our amazing zoo and it can't get the time of day?

    Perhaps this process isn't nearly as transparent as we've been told.

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    BTW, I just posted this story on social media about a half an hour ago and its completely blowing up.

    This seems to be something that people actually want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of questions about why this project was not given the opportunity to have a proper presentation at the MAPS 4 public meetings. They had almost 20 presentations and here is this bold, "think big" project backed by our amazing zoo and it can't get the time of day?

    Perhaps this process isn't nearly as transparent as we've been told.
    Very true. If the mayor and nice are in support it’s a slam dunk. Won’t matter how cooper and jo Beth vote.

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    At first thought, I really love the idea of an aquarium and having a destination for the canal. With the Zoo being able to provide partial funding, it definitely has me sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of questions about why this project was not given the opportunity to have a proper presentation at the MAPS 4 public meetings. They had almost 20 presentations and here is this bold, "think big" project backed by our amazing zoo and it can't get the time of day?

    Perhaps this process isn't nearly as transparent as we've been told.
    90% of the other proposals seem to have direct benefits to power brokers in the city, this proposal seems to benefit the citizens the most. What good would our tax dollars be if they didn't just benefit a select few?

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    Wish these renderings could have been released back in June or July during the hype. Hope it's not too late. Thanks, Pete.

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    Yes, Please.

    An economic impact study estimates the aquarium would “receive 600,000 visitors per year with a gross operating budget of $13 million per year after initial construction costs ranging from $110 million to $150 million.” Additionally, the estimated economic impact from visitor expenditures ranges from $27 million to $80 million “while supporting 305 to 915” local jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    BTW, I just posted this story on social media about a half an hour ago and its completely blowing up.

    This seems to be something that people actually want.
    I thought to myself a bit back that when it wasn't getting the attention the other projects were getting even though the general reception was positive that right before the list was revealed we would get a proposal. It's great strategy imo to have positivity heading into the reveal.

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    I love this, but id like to see it even a little larger. The best thing about this design is that there's still plenty of room for the soccer stadium too. It could help quickly in-fill the co-op for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Lots of questions about why this project was not given the opportunity to have a proper presentation at the MAPS 4 public meetings. They had almost 20 presentations and here is this bold, "think big" project backed by our amazing zoo and it can't get the time of day?

    Perhaps this process isn't nearly as transparent as we've been told.
    So, this seems like a question answered through a thorough investigative piece of journalism you can do. That is better than first casting aspersions. At least an interview with zoo board members, council members, etc. to get them on the record. Then, if it smells bad based on facts, cast away.

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    Give me all of this

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    Pete getting this to blow up on social media might end up being the biggest direct impact OKCtalk.com has ever had on the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    So, this seems like a question answered through a thorough investigative piece of journalism you can do. That is better than first casting aspersions. At least an interview with zoo board members, council members, etc. to get them on the record. Then, if it smells bad based on facts, cast away.
    We had to get this story out as the council is likely to vote on the MAPS4 slate next Tuesday.

    We could not get in touch with Nikki Nice.

    And we aren't done with this story.

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    OMG! 1,000,000x YES!

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    Wait, am I supposed to be against this because it wasn't presented a month ago?

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