just curious how many stations have United employees then? Can't be that many that have 35 flights a day on average. ...
Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!
Allegiant now flies to VPS (Destin FL) from both OKC and TUL seasonally. The TUL flights start in June. The FL panhandle seems like a popular vacation spot for Oklahomans so it will probably do well. Allegiant is also the right airline/equipment for this flight. I would love to see them try New Orleans again.
TUL but not OKC? Interesting. How did they escape Smisek's knife?
Not OKC related but saw a rumor that AA is going to start TUL-PHL flights as well. Really suggests that 1) OKC-PHL is doing well and 2) the PHL hub is far more profitable than some armchair CEOs thought it would be (on a.net anyway). Unless this is coming with a reduction to 1x/day for OKC-PHL which I have not seen mentioned anywhere...
Means more, to me, that Tulsa is trying a lot harder to market their airport. OKC keeps getting more to already established locales. But where are the new destinations? Has the OKC to Nashville flight even started? OKC will have no more advantages over TUL if they don't get more new destinations.
Not sure what you mean? TUL-PHL isn't exactly an earth-shattering route. A good add for TUL, but I doubt TUL had to market connecting TUL to one of AA's largest hubs in PHL. That's not terribly risky for AA.
OKC isn't doing too badly in terms of being connected to most legacy carrier's hubs. Obviously there are holes (LGA, MIA, etc), but overall OKC is doing decently well I'd say. AA adding OKC-PHL at 2x/daily on E75s (AA's most comfortable ride IMO) is a pretty solid add.
The only carrier I could see adding OKC-BNA would be WN, not any of the legacies.
TUL is missing some big links that OKC has like SFO, SEA, IAD and EWR. PHL would be great for restoring some connectivity to the Northeast and Europe. SEA will likely be added by Alaska this year. Not sure if United would try SFO or not, how does the OKC flight perform?
The TUL wish list would probably be PHL and LGA on AA, SEA on Alaska, BWI, DCA and BNA on Southwest and SFO on United. That and increased mainline capacity to hubs like DFW, IAH, ORD, ATL and DEN. AA resuming LAX in April fills a big hole in the network and it would be nice to eventually see that go 2x/daily.
Hard to be impressed with Tulsa air service.
10 years ago both OKC and TUL were both aroudn 3.2 or 3.3 millions of passengers. Now OKC is 4.3 while Tulsa just made it over 3 mil back from 2.8.
I am not sure why they have been taking such a hit while OKC is doing fairly well.
but in fairness, im sure OKC has more bleed to DFW and DAL than TUL has to XNA. Yet OKC still had significant growth and significantly the most busy airport in the state.
I'd honestly attribute this to OKC's population size (>400K vs TUL) and the city's flight options are being met.
Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!
I’m surprised we have no direct nonstop flights into Florida at all, except for the one seasonal flight to the emerald coast.
Are there any plans to add some in the near future? It is odd to me given FL is still one of the most popular domestic vacation destinations that we only have the one seasonal flight.
I’m hopeful that AA will add MIA at some point.
Florida, however is challenging from Oklahoma for the very reasons you mention. It is a very popular leisure destination. People going on vacation are the most cost sensitive travelers that exist. There is very limited natural business ties between OKC and Florida, so business traffic is limited in its ability to drive higher fares in these markets. The result is that it is cheaper for the airlines to send you to Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta to get you there as cheap as possible. Nonstop flights have been attempted time and time again and seem to always fail.
However, service to florida is better than it has been in the past. Allegiant can take you to VPS and SFB, while Frontier can take you to MCO. I think Frontier to MCO is year round or close to it, it just operates less than daily.
Yeah and most of those vacationers have no problems driving 12 hours to save several hundred in airfare. We know several families who go to Destin every year and drive.
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