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  1. #76

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    Man if this passes my future getting paid with tax dollars doesn't look good:

    https://newsok.com/article/5622971/b...xpayer-dollars

  2. #77

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    W in T everloving F

  3. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Man if this passes my future getting paid with tax dollars doesn't look good:

    https://newsok.com/article/5622971/b...xpayer-dollars
    How fvcking stupid.

  4. #79

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    Good to know legislators are spending their time on important subjects like this

    https://kfor.com/2019/02/15/bill-to-...ource=facebook

  5. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    Good to know legislators are spending their time on important subjects like this

    https://kfor.com/2019/02/15/bill-to-...ource=facebook
    I understand these are fun to use to try to paint congressmen as out of touch and all, but that resolution probably took 20 minutes to put together. If we had all the other problems ironed out, then I would concern myself with this stuff.

  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    I understand these are fun to use to try to paint congressmen as out of touch and all, but that resolution probably took 20 minutes to put together. If we had all the other problems ironed out, then I would concern myself with this stuff.
    You cannot use logic in politics threads. It doesn't exist to the regulars on here (jkjk, partly).

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  8. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    now this is interesting... ABLE often oversteps its bounds when it interrupts how it things laws should be read... this might make them a bit more accountable on things like that

  9. #84

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    ^^^I've thought that but I don’t know enough about ABLE to really make an informed opinion at this point as to whether this is good or bad.

  10. #85

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    Bill to add more regulations to wind energy production:

    https://journalrecord.com/2019/02/15...-move-forward/

  11. #86

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    Bill making abortion a felony likely won't be heard this legislative season.

    https://www.koco.com/article/lawmake...ssion/26398557

  12. #87

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    The Insure Oklahoma program bill passed the senate.

    https://kfor.com/2019/02/18/bill-exp...ate-committee/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    The Insure Oklahoma program bill passed the senate.

    https://kfor.com/2019/02/18/bill-exp...ate-committee/
    Sounds like Medicare Advantage, in which private insurance companies can submit plans of their own for Medicare members, if approved by Medicare. Allowing a Medicare Advantage for all would be a lot easier for private health companies to swallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Bill making abortion a felony likely won't be heard this legislative season.

    https://www.koco.com/article/lawmake...ssion/26398557
    The bill was further crazy by also banning contraceptives. Not allowing it to be heard will save some governing time.

  15. #90

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    Bill allowing minors in liquor stores:

    https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...b0ff7996e.html

    I fully support this!

  16. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    The bill was further crazy by also banning contraceptives. Not allowing it to be heard will save some governing time.

    Yet now we have this: https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...f0a2cd9b5.html


  17. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Bill allowing minors in liquor stores:

    https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...b0ff7996e.html

    I fully support this!
    as do i... anyone who has had small children and wanted a bottle of wine for the evening knows the need for this.

    and before someone says something about it... it's accompanied minors...

  18. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Bill allowing minors in liquor stores:

    https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...b0ff7996e.html

    I fully support this!
    Glad this is going through. We're one of the only states where this isn't already allowed (at least in my travels) and it's silly.

  19. #94

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    Minimum wage raises. 10.50 for everyone and 15 for state employees. I fully support this as a great first step.

    http://www.news9.com/story/40012674/...s-minimum-wage

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    Bill aiming to restore 5-day school week in Oklahoma clears education committee

    https://kfor.com/2019/02/19/bill-aim...ion-committee/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Minimum wage raises. 10.50 for everyone and 15 for state employees. I fully support this as a great first step.

    http://www.news9.com/story/40012674/...s-minimum-wage
    That will never fly at the state capitol. And so as the minimum wage keeps going up in some of the neighboring states, Oklahoma employers of low pay will have to simply give raises, if they wish to keep their employers from fleeing Oklahoma for higher pay. For instance, in Arkansas, the min. wage is $9.25 an hour, and goes up to $11 an hour in 2021. By then, I don't see how low pay Poteau, OK employers expect to keep their workers without a raise when Ft. Smith is just a short drive away.

    In Colorado the min. wage is already $11.10. That's a good deal for the lowly paid Oklahoma worker when the high cost of living in areas, such as Denver, are avoided. The cost of living in Pueblo is little higher than it is for Oklahoma City.

    I think that any raise in min. wage in Oklahoma will have to come from the federal level, which, too, doesn't look likely. Interestingly enough, Republicans say Oklahoma must keep is minimum wage at $7.25 to keep businesses from fleeing to other states. In turn, I wonder if Oklahoma has been economically benefiting from that notion.

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    Minimum wage discriminates against the low skilled worker. The Government should not artificially set a wage. The first thing that happens when the minimum wage is increased is layoffs because some companies cannot afford it.

    Jobs at the current minimum wage are not meant to be a living wage job. They are there to learn job skills and progress. Having a minimum wage and then continually increasing it takes away the ability of low skilled workers to gain employment and learn job skills and move on to higher paying jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emtefury View Post
    Minimum wage discriminates against the low skilled worker. The Government should not artificially set a wage. The first thing that happens when the minimum wage is increased is layoffs because some companies cannot afford it.

    Jobs at the current minimum wage are not meant to be a living wage job. They are there to learn job skills and progress. Having a minimum wage and then continually increasing it takes away the ability of low skilled workers to gain employment and learn job skills and move on to higher paying jobs.
    Totally agree. If raised then company has to either raise proces or have less workers. And then have to expect more from existing workers, which makes it harder to break through for a new worker.

    One other thing I hated seeing is less jobs available for under 18. The WalMarts have put so many smaller stores out of business there are less basic part time jobs. So now when someone graduates HS and with no skills its harder to break through (if they can’t afford college). If min wage is increased employees expect more knowledge and the worker will have no experience due to less part time under 18 jobs.

    If a person hates their lower wage they now have incentive to work on getting skills to move up. This opens that job for the entry worker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emtefury View Post
    Minimum wage discriminates against the low skilled worker. The Government should not artificially set a wage. The first thing that happens when the minimum wage is increased is layoffs because some companies cannot afford it.
    But that isn't the way it always works out. Nebraska's minimum wage is $9 with a steady 2.8% unemployment rate. Oklahoma's is 3.2%. However, Colorado seems to be supporting your point where the unemployment rate has slowly been going up, now 3.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    That will never fly at the state capitol. And so as the minimum wage keeps going up in some of the neighboring states, Oklahoma employers of low pay will have to simply give raises, if they wish to keep their employers from fleeing Oklahoma for higher pay. For instance, in Arkansas, the min. wage is $9.25 an hour, and goes up to $11 an hour in 2021. By then, I don't see how low pay Poteau, OK employers expect to keep their workers without a raise when Ft. Smith is just a short drive away.

    In Colorado the min. wage is already $11.10. That's a good deal for the lowly paid Oklahoma worker when the high cost of living in areas, such as Denver, are avoided. The cost of living in Pueblo is little higher than it is for Oklahoma City.

    I think that any raise in min. wage in Oklahoma will have to come from the federal level, which, too, doesn't look likely. Interestingly enough, Republicans say Oklahoma must keep is minimum wage at $7.25 to keep businesses from fleeing to other states. In turn, I wonder if Oklahoma has been economically benefiting from that notion.
    Back over here in reality it works pretty much the opposite of everything you just said.

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