Widgets Magazine
Page 2 of 20 FirstFirst 1234567 ... LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 486
  1. #26

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    You all have suspended people in the past for a lot less than this guy. Please act. He's taking it to other threads and clearly, he has no intention of participating like an adult

  2. #27

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    May I ask, how many of the invaders are you taking into your house? 1? 5? 10?
    So let me get this straight—you think these folks are going to be housed in private residences and forced upon families? If not, your question seems absurd.

  3. #28

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    So let me get this straight—you think these folks are going to be housed in private residences and forced upon families? If not, your question seems absurd.
    I asked a simple question. How many illegals are you planning on bringing in to your house?

    My point is they have nowhere to go once here. They have no homes. So we (Gov) have to pay for all of them. So if people want open borders they need to volunteer to take them on to not put burden on Gov which is already overtaxed. If those who want open borders take them in as a sponsor problem solved. I have het to find anyone willimg so far.

    Distinction: I am talking illegals/invaders not those who file/apply ahead and do legal immigration.

  4. #29

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    So let me get this straight—you think these folks are going to be housed in private residences and forced upon families? If not, your question seems absurd.
    He was responding to a false equivalency himself.

  5. #30

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    If necessary, I would take a refugee into my home. I was raised that if a neighbor needs help you help them if you can. There are over 200 million households in this huge country. Finding accommodations for a few thousand people is not going to overwhelm us. If they come to this country and apply for asylum and are approved they will find a place to live. They probably already know where they can stay and that is why they are coming.

  6. #31

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    I asked a simple question. How many illegals are you planning on bringing in to your house?

    My point is they have nowhere to go once here. They have no homes. So we (Gov) have to pay for all of them. So if people want open borders they need to volunteer to take them on to not put burden on Gov which is already overtaxed. If those who want open borders take them in as a sponsor problem solved. I have het to find anyone willimg so far.

    Distinction: I am talking illegals/invaders not those who file/apply ahead and do legal immigration.
    The question is dumb as hell. If the government isn't quartering these people in the private residences of unwilling citizen, what is the point of the question? One can only assume anyone who asks such a stupid question is well....

  7. #32

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Who has ever advocated "open borders?" Not "in effect" or any other dodge, but specifically what US politician, elected or aspiring, has advocated removing all border controls in the US?

  8. #33

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond_Outsider View Post
    Who has ever advocated "open borders?" Not "in effect" or any other dodge, but specifically what US politician, elected or aspiring, has advocated removing all border controls in the US?
    No one. Which is why its odd that the argument for closing our borders is even a topic.

  9. Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by onthestrip View Post
    No one. Which is why its odd that the argument for closing our borders is even a topic.
    Misdirection, strawman, another ball up in the air, "look over there at that shiny thing", throw it at a wall and see if it sticks, governing by chaos...

  10. #35
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    183
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Whew... this one is hot!!!

    My main concern with this entire deal is there will be no vetting if they all run in, and we have no knowledge of anyone's background. They could be a genuine person seeking a better life, or they could be here with the sole purpose to do the US harm and freeload. Problem is, they are likely to be breaking our laws, even if small ones. I recall a local person here illegally, had been send back three different times, but showed up again, had means to a vehicle, driving with no insurance (and I know that is over 50% of the people in this state), no license, on drugs, and ended up making an illegal turn on a street up on N May Ave, and killing a man named Bob Barry Jr. Here illegally, didn't abide by the rules, and, ended up killing a guy on a weekend cycle ride.

    There must be some type of vetting process of everyone of these people, and some type of work for food and shelter program, so they don't live here forever on handouts.

    http://www.news9.com/story/29397646/...ported-3-times

  11. #36

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by BLJR View Post
    Whew... this one is hot!!!

    My main concern with this entire deal is there will be no vetting if they all run in, and we have no knowledge of anyone's background. They could be a genuine person seeking a better life, or they could be here with the sole purpose to do the US harm and freeload. Problem is, they are likely to be breaking our laws, even if small ones. I recall a local person here illegally, had been send back three different times, but showed up again, had means to a vehicle, driving with no insurance (and I know that is over 50% of the people in this state), no license, on drugs, and ended up making an illegal turn on a street up on N May Ave, and killing a man named Bob Barry Jr. Here illegally, didn't abide by the rules, and, ended up killing a guy on a weekend cycle ride.

    There must be some type of vetting process of everyone of these people, and some type of work for food and shelter program, so they don't live here forever on handouts.

    http://www.news9.com/story/29397646/...ported-3-times


    I recall a man who was convinced, from right wing media and the president, that a group of poor brown people were being paid by George Soros to invade America. He walked into a Synagogue and murdered eleven people in cold blood while screaming that all Jews must die. He is a citizen. He is a nazi. This was ten days ago.

  12. #37

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    He was also a very mentally ill person.

  13. #38

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by mugofbeer View Post
    He was also a very mentally ill person.
    And the RW media and their conspiracy theories have led mentally ill people to do terrible things. Pizzagate comes to mind immediately. I haven't heard of anyone doing something like this because of something they read on Mother Jones.

  14. #39

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    So has the left. Remember a man who nearly killed one Republican Senator and wounded a number of other people when he tried to assassinate the Republican Senate Softball team? Ask him about Mother Jones, Daily Kos, 538, Slate, Politico, Salon, etc and their conspiracy Theories. Again, another very mentally ill person. Each side has their crazies. Don't try to insinuate one side has a monopoly on wing-nuts.

  15. #40

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    And the RW media and their conspiracy theories have led mentally ill people to do terrible things. Pizzagate comes to mind immediately. I haven't heard of anyone doing something like this because of something they read on Mother Jones.
    Do people really not remember the Scalise shooting? I mean, that just happened.

  16. #41

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Do people really not remember the Scalise shooting? I mean, that just happened.
    Yes, I recall that the shooter was a radical BernieBro

    Populism is a powerful and dangerous political narcotic. It pits "us" against the evil other. Bernie used it against Clinton and the elites, as did Trump. But Trump adds in those evil invading hoards of brown people. Mixing racism and bigotry with populism is particularly effective and dangerous. It leads to wars and genocide.

  17. Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Trump’s Oval Office Address Felt Like A Setup

    Excerpt:

    Don’t be surprised if the shutdown drags on and Trump asks the news networks for more primetime air to give a second Oval Office address. The speech practically writes itself: “A few weeks ago, I delivered my first Oval Office address in the hopes that it would provoke congressional Democrats into doing the right thing and passing urgently needed border security funding to address the growing crisis at our southern border. Instead, they’ve refused to act and have left innocent Americans vulnerable to violence from gangs, drug cartels, and rapists. We can’t afford to allow Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to hold our national security hostage any longer. That is why tonight, I am declaring a national security emergency on the southern border and sending military personnel to the border immediately to start building the wall.”

    Trump’s first Oval Office address was the opening act ― a ploy to appear calm, controlled, and reasonable. It’s just a setup for the next one.
    ----------------------------
    And Jeffrey Toobin says (which I wholeheartedly agree with, as anyone that has more than two neurons to rub together should):

    “I do think just on the substance we need to pause and consider, you know, this is what happens in authoritarian countries. When leaders don’t get their way they declare emergencies and go around the usual legal processes.”

  18. #43

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Trump Theater. From around the web and spot on:

    January 2017 GOP majority
    January 2017 Wall not an emergency
    February 2017 Wall not an emergency
    March 2017 Wall not an emergency
    April 2017 Wall not an emergency
    May 2017 Wall not an emergency
    June 2017 Wall not an emergency
    July 2017 Wall not an emergency
    August 2017 Wall not an emergency
    September 2017 Wall not an emergency
    October 2017 Wall not an emergency
    November 2017 Wall not an emergency
    December 2017 Wall not an emergency
    January 2018 Wall not an emergency
    February 2018 Wall not an emergency
    March 2018 Wall not an emergency
    April 2018 Wall not an emergency
    May 2018 Wall not an emergency
    June 2018 Wall not an emergency
    July 2018 Wall not an emergency
    August 2018 Wall not an emergency
    September 2018 Wall not an emergency
    October 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
    December 2018 Senate, no wall by 90%. House, wall. No budget.
    January 2019 DEMs take office in the House.
    January 2019 EMERGENCY!!!

    That mean old lady Pelosi! This is her fault.

  19. #44

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    Trump Theater. From around the web and spot on:

    January 2017 GOP majority
    January 2017 Wall not an emergency
    February 2017 Wall not an emergency
    March 2017 Wall not an emergency
    April 2017 Wall not an emergency
    May 2017 Wall not an emergency
    June 2017 Wall not an emergency
    July 2017 Wall not an emergency
    August 2017 Wall not an emergency
    September 2017 Wall not an emergency
    October 2017 Wall not an emergency
    November 2017 Wall not an emergency
    December 2017 Wall not an emergency
    January 2018 Wall not an emergency
    February 2018 Wall not an emergency
    March 2018 Wall not an emergency
    April 2018 Wall not an emergency
    May 2018 Wall not an emergency
    June 2018 Wall not an emergency
    July 2018 Wall not an emergency
    August 2018 Wall not an emergency
    September 2018 Wall not an emergency
    October 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
    December 2018 Senate, no wall by 90%. House, wall. No budget.
    January 2019 DEMs take office in the House.
    January 2019 EMERGENCY!!!

    That mean old lady Pelosi! This is her fault.
    Wrong

    Trump was elected because of being the first one to run on Wall as part of primary platform.

    Its been a crisis for decades, and ignored. The Socialist Dems who are now against it were for it just a few or more years ago. But they realized by supporting a wall and border controls means giving up new voters so they want unfettered illegals so one day when they get in power they will wave a wand and make them legal. And then just keep bringing in more votes to keep power consolidated. They do not care about our country.

    Trump has harped on this since at least 2015. Its time to fix it.

  20. #45

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    Wrong

    Trump was elected because of being the first one to run on Wall as part of primary platform.

    Its been a crisis for decades, and ignored. The Socialist Dems who are now against it were for it just a few or more years ago. But they realized by supporting a wall and border controls means giving up new voters so they want unfettered illegals so one day when they get in power they will wave a wand and make them legal. And then just keep bringing in more votes to keep power consolidated. They do not care about our country.

    Trump has harped on this since at least 2015. Its time to fix it.
    Trump had a deal for $25 billion for his wall, in exchange for DACA protections, protections he said he wanted.

    And he tore the deal up.

    I guess the wall wasn't really that big a deal to him.

  21. #46

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    And Jeffrey Toobin says (which I wholeheartedly agree with, as anyone that has more than two neurons to rub together should):

    “I do think just on the substance we need to pause and consider, you know, this is what happens in authoritarian countries. When leaders don’t get their way they declare emergencies and go around the usual legal processes.”
    Toobin doesn't have two neurons to rub together. Was he concerned when nearly every president has done this very same thing. The messiah did so 14 times in his tenure, most for international affairs, which coincidentally this is as well.

    Also worth noting that this is congressionally authorized power of the President. Whereas Obama tried to legislate (DACA) and tie the hands of the Article 1 branch of government. That's the sort of thing that happens in authoritarian countries. But you know....Trump!

  22. #47

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    Trump had a deal for $25 billion for his wall, in exchange for DACA protections, protections he said he wanted.

    And he tore the deal up.

    I guess the wall wasn't really that big a deal to him.
    Playing politics. Trump invented it you know. Dems could have passed immigration reforms in 09-10, but needed a tool to beet in the heads of Republicans. Trump learned well. It irritates me that he did so in this case. But i do see what is happening. He is taking an issue that he thinks is fairly popular, but one that he is pretty sure the Dems will resist. Voila, a hammer.

  23. #48

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Following the laws on the books is now authoritarian. Don't believe talking heads. Even those on the left (that aren't suffering from TDS) understand this is a complicated issue, but one that the President generally has broad powers to utilize.

    Can President Trump Fund the Wall by Declaring a National Emergency? by Bobby Chesney @ LawFare
    Could Emergency Powers Build the Wall? by William Galston (Brookings) @ Wall Street Journal
    Everyone Calm Down About That Declaration of National Emergency by Quinta Jurecic @ LawFare

    And from someone slightly more inclined to give Trump a fair shake:
    Yes, Trump has authority to declare national emergency for border wall by Jonathan Turley @ The Hill

    Funny that only the last one actually puts the word "yes" in the title. Kind of tell of which "side" the author's are coming from.

  24. #49

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    So Jim Acosta of CNN is down at the border, at a portion of the border that has a steel slat (or whatever you want to call it) wall. His point is that there is "no emergency" here and that proves that there is no emergency at all on the border.

    FFS I didn't know they made them that stupid.

    Look I'm not hell bent on a wall or anything, but standing next to a wall that the President is proposing expanding and saying that all is well is not proof that it is unneeded. It's the exact opposite.

  25. #50

    Default Re: The Invasion From The South

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Toobin doesn't have two neurons to rub together. Was he concerned when nearly every president has done this very same thing. The messiah did so 14 times in his tenure, most for international affairs, which coincidentally this is as well.

    Also worth noting that this is congressionally authorized power of the President. Whereas Obama tried to legislate (DACA) and tie the hands of the Article 1 branch of government. That's the sort of thing that happens in authoritarian countries. But you know....Trump!
    You are such a JOKE! lol I will have to give it to you though you are an expert in trumpian. Name call, insult, make up bulls*it, then cry when the same play book is used against you.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 02-04-2016, 02:37 PM
  2. David Stanley Invasion
    By venture in forum Norman
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 10-08-2013, 09:18 AM
  3. What Says OKC On Rutgers Student Privacy Invasion Suicide?
    By Fastfwd in forum Current Events & Open Topic
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 10-15-2010, 03:05 PM
  4. Inhofe: Media invented WMD excuse for Iraq invasion
    By PUGalicious in forum Current Events & Open Topic
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-02-2007, 01:21 AM
  5. Retired general: Iraq invasion was 'strategic disaster'
    By crabby_cruiser in forum Current Events & Open Topic
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-02-2005, 04:12 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO