2017 Oklahoma Commercial Aviation Discussion

[catch22]

The Delta numbers are rather shocking.

Delta had a massive IT failure on January 29, near the end of the month. While traffic was likely already down for the month, it more than likely impacted their numbers as some passengers may have rebooked a few days later in February or canceled outright.

[pure]

If anything, I thought Delta would have done better in January since they brought in the 757s for the Sugar Bowl non-stop, or was that in December?

[catch22]

If anything, I thought Delta would have done better in January since they brought in the 757s for the Sugar Bowl non-stop, or was that in December?

Pretty small blip in the overall numbers.

[catch22]

June 9 schedule change for United.

DEN-OKC will operate with 1 mainline flight, OKC-DEN will operate with 2 mainline flights. IAH-OKC will operate with 1 mainline flight, OKC-IAH will remain the same and not have mainline.

DEN-OKC-DEN 737-800
IAH-OKC-DEN 737-700 (will be a morning turn arriving in OKC at 8:40am departing at 9:25)

It's the second time this routing has operated, I remember it several years ago when we still had the work in OKC. Looks like they are trying it again.

[catch22]

Allegiant to begin seasonal OKC-LAX June 1. Strange add with how well served the route is.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-rel...gt-2198986.htm

Edit: June 1 not 9, added link

[whatitis]

Allegiant to begin seasonal OKC-LAX June 1. Strange add with how well served the route is.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-rel...gt-2198986.htm

Edit: June 1 not 9, added link

Was just coming on here to post this

[damonsmuz]

Anyone know the equipment type being used for Allegiant OKC-LAX?

[bradh]

Anyone know the equipment type being used for Allegiant OKC-LAX?

Broken and unmaintained

[catch22]

anyone know the equipment type being used for allegiant okc-lax?

a319

[pure]

Broken and unmaintained

From what I've heard, this is accurate. I will gladly pay $200 more to fly on American or United to LAX.

[AP]

Broken and unmaintained

+1

[brianinok]

Broken and unmaintained

You won't ever catch me on an Allegiant plane. This is pretty damning.

[pure]

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

[LakeEffect]

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

This story was buried in the post above yours: http://www.tampabay.com/projects/201...al-breakdowns/

[sbs]

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

In sum, they don't do much preventive maintenance and fly extremely old aircraft (some over 30 years old). They generally wait for something to completely give out before they repair/replace it.

In Allegiant's defense, they have been rapidly retiring their ancient planes and have been buying new Airbus aircraft. They will only get better.

[catch22]

Their Airbus aircraft are maintained just as poorly as their mad dogs. It took United hundreds of millions of dollars and a lot of aircraft downtime after the merger to get the Airbus fleet back in working order as pre-merger United treated their airbus fleet like crap because they didn't have the money to maintain them.

Every plane will break down when pencil whipped and continually deferred maintenance.

[catch22]

July and August AA will run a 3rd daily to CLT. 2x CRJ9 1x CRJ7

[gopokes88]

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/Feb...nplanement.pdf

Good February considering one less day this year. What's up with delta though? Woof

[catch22]

Delta has switched to mostly 717's instead of MD88's to ATL, which is a significant capacity reduction.

[pure]

Few days old and has nothing to do with OKC, but I find it interesting. 12 new non-stops from SFO for Alaska Airlines using Virgin America A320's and E175s. I find it interesting because ABQ and MCI got service. I wonder if we would have had a shot if the terminal expansion would have been complete. It'll be sweet to see Virgin America equipment in OKC one day.

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...m-the-Bay-Area

[s00nr1]

AA announced a bevy of new routes today.....not a big surprise but no MIA or PHX for OKC (of note is a new OMA-MIA route).

[BG918]

AA announced a bevy of new routes today.....not a big surprise but no MIA or PHX for OKC (of note is a new OMA-MIA route).

PHX-OKC and TUL is dominated by Southwest. I'd love to see AA add some competition.

Is MIA-OMA daily? Impressive if that's the case. OKC-MIA even if just 3-4x week would be nice for LatAm and European connections. AA flies TUL-MIA 1x/week Saturday-only wish it could be expanded as well.

CLT-RAP (Rapid City, SD) is an odd one. East Coast-Mt Rushmore/Black Hills tourism? Looks like it's seasonal.

[damonsmuz]

CLT-RAP surprises me too. RAP recently received AA service a few years ago.

That's a long flight. That plane will be tied to that route for much of the day unless it's an overnight.

Surprised there were no new routes to Philly.

[damonsmuz]

On the OKC Airport wiki page it lists that OKC has service to PDX. (Portland)

I haven't seen any info on this elsewhere...is this legit or wishful thinking ??

[Snowman]

On the OKC Airport wiki page it lists that OKC has service to PDX. (Portland)

I haven't seen any info on this elsewhere...is this legit or wishful thinking ??

While future routes have been show up there (though usually with time frame that starts), there does not seem to be anything about starting that in any of the airports news archive going back a few months and google seems not to have noticed any announcement about it either.