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  1. #4501

    Default Re: Russia, something or nothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    Yes, what they disseminated was the black book showing that Manafort was taking millions from Russia via Ukraine for political work off the books and not paying taxes on in the US. It's a large part why he is in prison.

    Manafort is a criminal and they released evidence they had of it. That's not meddling in an election, there's no illegal activity in releasing the information, here or there. If you recall, this information also called into question the activity of the brother of CLINTON's campaign manager as well.

    See, this is another example of Trump's style of obstruction of justice. If real and correct information is released that is bad for Trump, he attacks you as hard as he can.
    Uhhh...because the black book was likely a fabrication. Even Mueller didn't cite it as evidence of anything in his report. He did mention reports that mentioned it, but that's really kind of a way to avoid scrutiny.

  2. #4502

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    Oh, and just to keep Russia right on top, from the Roger Stone trial:

    Rick Gates testified that he witnessed and listened in on a Trump phone call with Roger Stone regarding Wikileaks releasing the emails hacked by Russia. This means that Trump committed perjury in his responses to Mueller. This is backed up by emails and texts within the campaign.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...kileaks-070368

    Personally, I would say that lying to the FBI is a more serious offense, than say, lying in a civil case deposition.

    Anyone disagree?

  3. #4503

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    Oh, and just to keep Russia right on top, from the Roger Stone trial:

    Rick Gates testified that he witnessed and listened in on a Trump phone call with Roger Stone regarding Wikileaks releasing the emails hacked by Russia. This means that Trump committed perjury in his responses to Mueller. This is backed up by emails and texts within the campaign.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...kileaks-070368

    Personally, I would say that lying to the FBI is a more serious offense, than say, lying in a civil case deposition.

    Anyone disagree?
    You keep forgetting that word allegedly. When you are dealing with a bunch of liars, who do you trust?

  4. #4504

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    The evidence has all been made public in the Roger Stone case

    He had no prior knowledge of the Podesta or DNC leaks other than what was already public knowledge

    And no communications with Wikileaks or Russia

  5. #4505

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    You keep forgetting that word allegedly. When you are dealing with a bunch of liars, who do you trust?
    The Justice Department believes it to be true, or they wouldn't put him on the stand and let him testify to it. And again, the constant contact between the campaign is documented by texts and emails.

    That and Trump lies about everything.

  6. #4506

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    The evidence has all been made public in the Roger Stone case

    He had no prior knowledge of the Podesta or DNC leaks other than what was already public knowledge

    And no communications with Wikileaks or Russia
    I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with [Stone], nor do I recall being aware of Mr. Stone having discussed WikiLeaks with individuals associated with my campaign.
    - President Donald Trump to Robert Mueller

    According to direct testimony and dozens of email and text messages introduced over the last week, the Trump campaign got its first heads up about Julian Assange’s ability to upend U.S. politics as far back as April 2016. The timing is months earlier than any Trump aide has previously described, and months before WikiLeaks published its first cache of damaging materials that would go on to cripple Hillary Clinton’s White House bid.

    Additionally, a wider cast of Trump aides participated in WikiLeaks strategy sessions than previously known as they mapped out an attack plan to take advantage of the hacked Democratic emails. Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, campaign chairman Paul Manafort, campaign CEO Steve Bannon and senior adviser Stephen Miller were all part of those broader discussions about how to best turn the WikiLeaks surprises into political gold.

    Perhaps most politically damning, Trump himself discussed the matter with Stone during a phone call in the heat of the summertime general election campaign, according to testimony from former-Trump campaign deputy Rick Gates, who witnessed the call while riding with the GOP nominee from his namesake tower in Manhattan to LaGuardia Airport. While the testimony might not put Trump in any fresh legal peril, it has highlighted a potential contradiction in Trump’s written responses to Mueller’s team.
    Let's be clear, this is Russia again, it is real, and it's far, far more serious than lying about a blowie in the Oval and it's not even big enough to make major news right now. Trump is the worst, most corrupt president of all time. He is indefensible. At least using truth and reality.

  7. #4507

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    - President Donald Trump to Robert Mueller



    Let's be clear, this is Russia again, it is real, and it's far, far more serious than lying about a blowie in the Oval and it's not even big enough to make major news right now. Trump is the worst, most corrupt president of all time. He is indefensible. At least using truth and reality.
    Actually it's about the equivelent of getting a heads up from a Times reporter that a hit piece is about to run in The Post. Literally.

    Who in the **** are you claiming is a Russian agent. Cause if it's WikiLeaks, Stone was lying out of his ass. They weren't working together, and he didn't know anything.

  8. #4508

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Actually it's about the equivelent of getting a heads up from a Times reporter that a hit piece is about to run in The Post. Literally.

    Who in the **** are you claiming is a Russian agent. Cause if it's WikiLeaks, Stone was lying out of his ass. They weren't working together, and he didn't know anything.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/steve-b...ks-11573252387

  9. #4509

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    I don't think that means what you think it means. They considered Stone their source for WikiLeaks....as in they had no other source. Not that they believed Stone was working with WikiLeaks. There is a difference.

    Plus I can only see a little bit of the first two paragraphs, so if there is something down below that elaborates a bit more you are going to have to post it in here.

  10. #4510

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    OMG, this is closed and he did nothing the Dems can get him on. For Gods sake, there's probably more here than the Ukraine deal but they know Ukraine is easier for those who might actually care about Ukraine to understand. This is their last chance at getting him and they can stretch it right into the election.

  11. #4511

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    According to Mueller Trump knew the Russian government was helping his campaign and accepted and welcomed that help.

    Then Trump committed up to 11 acts of obstruction.

    Now this morning Roger Stone has been convicted.

    It's not over.

  12. #4512

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    Not only convicted, but guilty on all 6 counts. Looking at 20 years in the stoney lonesome. "Lock him up". Has there ever been a President who has had as many associates locked up?

  13. #4513

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    Meanwhile, McCabe gets to keep his cushy new gig at CNN.

  14. #4514

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    According to Mueller Trump knew the Russian government was helping his campaign and accepted and welcomed that help.

    Then Trump committed up to 11 acts of obstruction.

    Now this morning Roger Stone has been convicted.

    It's not over.
    Tell me again how any of these convictions have anything to do with Mueller's investigation?

  15. #4515

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    Flynn squared if you ask me. Of course I think Stone deserved some punishment at some point in his life, but that's a different story.

  16. #4516

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Meanwhile, McCabe gets to keep his cushy new gig at CNN.
    Speaking of McCabe, looks like the judge is getting quite upset with Barr.

    Judge angry with DOJ delays in McCabe prosecution decision: 'This is not a hard case!'
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...hard-caseJudge angry with DOJ delays in McCabe prosecution decision: 'This is not a hard case!'
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ot-a-hard-case

  17. #4517

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    Speaking of McCabe, looks like the judge is getting quite upset with Barr.

    Judge angry with DOJ delays in McCabe prosecution decision: 'This is not a hard case!'
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...hard-caseJudge angry with DOJ delays in McCabe prosecution decision: 'This is not a hard case!'
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ot-a-hard-case
    This is confusing to me as well. However I don't recall judges being in such a hurry on getting the Flynn case wrapped up. Juries out on whether this means anything of any significance. I think a LOT of questions will be answered in the next two weeks.

  18. #4518

    Default Re: Russia, something or nothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    According to Mueller Trump knew the Russian government was helping his campaign and accepted and welcomed that help.

    Then Trump committed up to 11 acts of obstruction.

    Now this morning Roger Stone has been convicted.

    It's not over.
    All of that was hashed over. Stone's conviction means nothing. Its over unless something new comes out. Ukraine is the contoversy du jour.

  19. #4519

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    I know this may be really hard to believe...but there is an FBI official under investigation for allegedly altering a document (suspect it is FISA warrant doc) related to the 2016 Russia investigation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/polit...&utm_term=link

  20. #4520

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    "Some witnesses who have been interviewed in Horowitz's investigation have said they expect the inspector general to find mistakes in the FBI's handling of the FISA process, but that those mistakes do not undermine the premise for the FBI's investigation.
    American intelligence agencies and the Justice Department have not swayed from their finding that Russia interfered in the 2016 election by hacking the Democrats and spreading pro-Trump propaganda online. And even former top Trump campaign officials have corroborated special counsel Robert Mueller's finding that the Trump campaign planned some of its strategy around the Russian hacks, and had multiple contacts with Kremlin-linked individuals in 2016."

  21. #4521

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    "Some witnesses who have been interviewed in Horowitz's investigation have said they expect the inspector general to find mistakes in the FBI's handling of the FISA process, but that those mistakes do not undermine the premise for the FBI's investigation.
    American intelligence agencies and the Justice Department have not swayed from their finding that Russia interfered in the 2016 election by hacking the Democrats and spreading pro-Trump propaganda online. And even former top Trump campaign officials have corroborated special counsel Robert Mueller's finding that the Trump campaign planned some of its strategy around the Russian hacks, and had multiple contacts with Kremlin-linked individuals in 2016."
    It started with, this was all on the up and up.
    Then it went to well, just because they didn't find anything they still were acting in the best interest of the country.
    Now we are at well, it looks like some mistakes were make, but it's didn't effect anything material.

    I estimate that in two months, we will be singing a different tune.

  22. #4522

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    CNN has apparently updated the story. It was a former FBI line attorney. So not Struck (or however you spell that guys name).

  23. #4523

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    Kevin Clinesmith is the FBI official who altered the email in front of the FISA court.

    This case has been referred for criminal prosecution but I'm frankly not holding breath that anything horrendous comes of it, all though they could be pressing him for more info with this pressure.

  24. #4524

    Default Re: Russia, something or nothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    It started with, this was all on the up and up.
    Then it went to well, just because they didn't find anything they still were acting in the best interest of the country.
    Now we are at well, it looks like some mistakes were make, but it's didn't effect anything material.

    I estimate that in two months, we will be singing a different tune.
    Well it doesn't look like anything will come of the Horowitz report much to the disappointment of Agent Orange and his Roy Cohn. I wonder if Roy will issue a pre report ala Mueller.

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