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  1. #776

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    ^

    The extreme irony is that the Oklahoman is always pleading with people to subscribe and "support local journalism".

    First of all, they are as local as an Applebee's; owned by a huge out-of-state corporation where the large majority of their product is not created by people here.

    Secondly, I will continue to argue they are actually very bad for local journalism due to their wildly unethical tactics and their continued theft of work from people and organizations that actually *are* local journalists. Effectively, they are working against good, honest local journalism every single day.
    I still receive a print copy every day. The elderly lady we bought our home from, nor her kids could figure out how to cancel the service, so it just keeps showing up. I read through it occasionally. They still do things like the obits well. It'd be pretty great if some of these local journalists could get some capital and make a run at starting a newspaper to compete and kill the Oklahoman. A lot of folks have abandoned it because of garbage content.

    I'll give them a bit of credit for their editorial page. Though they are mostly filling space with op-eds, some pretty questionable, they are decidedly less partisan.

    And one tip--their newspapers do pretty well breaking down in compost piles.

  2. #777

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    Obits are yet another thing that is done better online. The only reason you continue to see them in the paper is that a lot of their readers are dying. That sounds meaner than my intention, but it's true. If you are 60 or older and passing away, your audience is the average Oklahoman reader.


    And don't forget, for decades the Oklahoman was the only option if you wanted to honor your loved one and let people know about their service. And they absolutely gouged people who were suffering the worst kind of loss. I know this because I had to run obits there for both my parents in the 1980s and I was absolutely shocked by what they charged, but really had no other option.

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    I don't even know if people my age (I'm 32) would even get much use out of a traditional obit. If I kicked the bucket, I assume everyone who knows me in person would find out from my wife's Facebook, and from there it would probably percolate to another forum I participate in, and that'd get all of my acquaintances. I don't know if anyone who would care that I died has so much as looked at a newspaper in the last ten years.

  4. #779

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    Just cancelled The Oklahoman after many many years. My wife got a larger monthly bill than usual. She called and found out that they are charging more for inserts.

    Adios.

  5. #780

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
    Just cancelled The Oklahoman after many many years. My wife got a larger monthly bill than usual. She called and found out that they are charging more for inserts.

    Adios.
    wait... what? they're charging more for a version of the paper that contains advertising inserts that businesses pay to have included?

  6. #781

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    wait... what? they're charging more for a version of the paper that contains advertising inserts that businesses pay to have included?

    Yes. So we fired them. It was like 8 bucks difference the previous month. Just for the 'ARTS' insert.

  7. #782

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    wait... what? they're charging more for a version of the paper that contains advertising inserts that businesses pay to have included?

    Talk about double dipping.

  8. #783

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    I was listening to the Down to Dunk podcast today and they mentioned that the Oklahoman ran a story on the NBA draft watch party at Fassler Hall last Thursday. The Down to Dunk guys organized it, spoke at it, and 100% made it happen. Fassler was absolutely overflowing with fans because of the podcast. Would you guess that the Oklahoman didn't mention the organizers and just called it a local gathering? The Oklahoman is so unethical and insecure that they won't even give a local basketball podcast credit. Granted, it's 10 times more popular than anything they produce (no shade at Joe Mussatto who does good work), but it's actually pretty similar to their treatment of OKCTalk. I'm guessing it's a company-wide policy not to give any grassroots media content any type of credit.

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    ^

    I saw those photos and wondered why there was such an organized crowd there; I knew it couldn't have just been an organic gathering.


    I've heard so many excuses for why they function so unethically: it was the heavy hand of the Gaylords, then it was the new editor, then it was the newest editor and now it's because their newsroom has been slashed -- as if that somehow stops them from adding the phrases you see thousands of times in any other publication: "first reported by" or "credit to".

    They go out of their way to draft off the work of others and then try to squash them with their fading monopoly.

    They can't die fast enough for me. The few good people there will easily find jobs elsewhere but that institution is bad for OKC.

  10. #785

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    I continue to subscribe to the digital version. It is amazing how paltry and limited their coverage is, and how it continues to get worse. I had high hopes for the new Executive Editor but I haven't seen much of anything change. Oddly, their website platform has gotten worse.

  11. #786

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    They stopped printing the Oil & Gas well permits and completions in the business section in the last week or so. Kind of like they stopped printing the real estate transactions every Saturday. It is pretty pathetic how lazy they have become.

  12. #787

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    US newspapers dying at rate of 2 each week

    NEW YORK – Despite a growing recognition of the problem, the United States continues to see newspapers die at the rate of two per week,
    according to a report issued Wednesday on the state of local news...

    ... The country had 6,377 newspapers at the end of May, down from 8,891 in 2005, the report said. While the pandemic didn’t quite cause the reckoning that some in the industry feared, 360 newspapers have shut down since the end of 2019, all but 24 of them weeklies serving small communities.

    An estimated 75,000 journalists worked in newspapers in 2006, and now that’s down to 31,000, Northwestern said. Annual newspaper revenue slipped from $50 billion to $21 billion in the same period.

    Oklahoman, July 2, 2022 - Link: https://oklahoman-ok.newsmemory.com/...Ccz2InkIkt0kJC

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    And now the comics are in black and white? I wonder if that's a mistake or another "cheapness." Maybe a shortage of colored ink!!

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