West Village

[sooner88]

Pete on #4 do you mean NE? Unless i'm looking at it wrong, which is always possible, the NW would be the music venue/ restaurant which is already happening. Also, 4,000 sq/ft doesn't sound like a huge space does anyone have any local comparisons on size so I can picture it.

Republic at Classen Curve is ~4,800 sf. I had heard they had interest in Film Row, but I'm questioning if they would want to go into a building that size.

[bchris02]

At yesterday's DDRC meeting, Burnett & Beffort did their information-only presentation to the committee and several new details emerged, although they emphasized everything is conceptual at this point:

1. They hope to do all 5 blocks simultaneously, including the two on the north side of Main Street. Said they the main issue is staging for the 7 separate projects (these 5 blocks plus 21c plus the music venue) but were hoping to find an off-site staging area.
2. They would like to close Fred Jones north of Main, then have apartments on the west and east ends of the block with a parking structure in between.
3. There would be about 8,500 square feet of retail space on the NE corner of Classen & Main; said they are "far along" in discussions with a tenant to take all the space (perhaps Walgreens or CVS? Although that is small for their stores, could be an urban version)
4. They already have an LOI signed for the 4,000 SF restaurant space on the NW corner of Sheridan and Fred Jones
5. 320 total units, 800 spaces which would included parking for all their development plus 21c and ADG and the music venue
6. There would be a large water feature were Fred Jones would terminate on the north side of Main Street
7. The reason for the dog park along Classen are huge OG&E power lines and easement along the strip that are cost-prohibitive to relocate
8. They hope to submit finalized plans to the DDRC in August

I am very impressed they are going to do everything simultaneously. Hopefully a CVS or Walgreens ends up being part of the deal.

[hfry]

^^ Thanks! Any good egg concept would be awesome there. This truly could transform this side of downtown and hopefully encourage others to follow suite.

[Urbanized]

I wouldn't be surprised if that space were occupied by a high-end national chain.

[bchris02]

I wouldn't be surprised if that space were occupied by a high-end national chain.

McCormick and Schmicks maybe? One can only dream.

[David]

This project sounds better and better every time we get more details about it.

[Pete]

I wouldn't be surprised if that space were occupied by a high-end national chain.

Don't think so, but what could be going there could be even cooler.

[JRod1980]

Don't think so, but what could be going there could be even cooler.

Pete,

Were you able to find any information on the street project we talked about from Shartel to Classen?

Incredible to think that a few weeks ago when we meet none of this was announced and we were extremely happy with our new location, now it just feel like a blessing.

[hoya]

That Danny Bowien guy is from the OKC area. Maybe he could open a Mission Chinese Food here. NYC, San Fran, OKC.

[Pete]

Pete,

Were you able to find any information on the street project we talked about from Shartel to Classen?

Incredible to think that a few weeks ago when we meet none of this was announced and we were extremely happy with our new location, now it just feel like a blessing.

I haven't found anything in the works on the City side; could just be conversations at this point.

[JRod1980]

I haven't found anything in the works on the City side; could just be conversations at this point.

Well, I'm definitely not in a hurry to have the streets torn up right as we are opening. Luckily we have a possible back entrance area we could utilize if needed.

[Pete]

I would think that with all this development at the west end of downtown they will bring the streetscape all the way to Classen on both Sheridan and Main.

You can pretty much count on the 21c and Hall Capital projects to adhere to P180 standards and that is several blocks.

[Teo9969]

At yesterday's DDRC meeting, Burnett & Beffort did their information-only presentation to the committee and several new details emerged, although they emphasized everything is conceptual at this point:

1. They hope to do all 5 blocks simultaneously, including the two on the north side of Main Street. Said they the main issue is staging for the 7 separate projects (these 5 blocks plus 21c plus the music venue) but were hoping to find an off-site staging area.
2. They would like to close Fred Jones north of Main, then have apartments on the west and east ends of the block with a parking structure in between.
3. There would be about 8,500 square feet of retail space on the NE corner of Classen & Main; said they are "far along" in discussions with a tenant to take all the space (perhaps Walgreens or CVS? Although that is small for their stores, could be an urban version)
4. They already have an LOI signed for the 4,000 SF restaurant space on the NW corner of Sheridan and Fred Jones
5. 320 total units, 800 spaces which would included parking for all their development plus 21c and ADG and the music venue
6. There would be a large water feature were Fred Jones would terminate on the north side of Main Street
7. The reason for the dog park along Classen are huge OG&E power lines and easement along the strip that are cost-prohibitive to relocate
8. They hope to submit finalized plans to the DDRC in August

Regarding #5, if they get approval for closing FJ Avenue, would they still be doing the garage that fronts Sheridan? It would be AWESOME if that could also turn into apartments, but I'm assuming that's not happening.

[Pete]

Regarding #5, if they get approval for closing FJ Avenue, would they still be doing the garage that fronts Sheridan? It would be AWESOME if that could also turn into apartments, but I'm assuming that's not happening.

Yes, still doing the garage on Sheridan. None of the previously shown plans have changed.

Burnett said in the presentation yesterday that with 21c, the music venue and everything they plan to build, they need every bit of the parking they have shown.

He said the only way to put more living units along Sheridan was to make the parking garage considerably taller, which wouldn't fit the scale of the other buildings.

Even though it's 5 different lots, none of them are very big, so they are cramming a lot into pretty small spaces.

[Jheat]

Republic at Classen Curve is ~4,800 sf. I had heard they had interest in Film Row, but I'm questioning if they would want to go into a building that size.

I have also heard that Republic is interested in a downtown location.

[Spartan]

I am very impressed they are going to do everything simultaneously. Hopefully a CVS or Walgreens ends up being part of the deal.

Said no city ever

[bchris02]

Said no city ever

Except OKC. I don't believe this city has seen a project this large by a single developer happen all at once. Around here larger developments usually happen in phases. In addition, a CVS or Walgreens anywhere downtown will be very welcome.

[Pete]

Except OKC. I don't believe this city has seen a project this large by a single developer happen all at once. Around here larger developments usually happen in phases.

Actually, the Steelyard is bigger than this.

More living units, more retail space. Will also have more adjacent hotel rooms and a bigger concert venue right across the street.

And Level, LIFT and the Edge are in the same neighborhood.

[Spartan]

Except OKC. I don't believe this city has seen a project this large by a single developer happen all at once. Around here larger developments usually happen in phases. In addition, a CVS or Walgreens anywhere downtown will be very welcome.

I meant CVS. Sure it would be welcome, but not something this development should aspire to. CVS should lease the first floor of a parking garage or something.

[warreng88]

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I remember big plans for Lower BT, the parking lot in front of the Chevy BT Events Center, the old Canal corner, etc. Any chance this gets scaled down?

[Spartan]

Warren ^ Context is key.

That Bricktown Village project was killed by city politics (everyone hates Bob Funk) and a high-profile divorce (she got half of Expre$$).

I think these guys are pretty well-liked. Plus, w Cathy O'Connor leading The Alliance, we probably have more professional leadership around downtown efforts than ever before.

History lesson of the day:
http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic...n-village.html

[Urbanized]

Actually, the Steelyard is bigger than this.

More living units, more retail space. Will also have more adjacent hotel rooms and a bigger concert venue right across the street...

Doesn't count 'cause it's in Bricktown

[Teo9969]

Doesn't count 'cause it's in Bricktown

What's a "Bricktown"?

[dankrutka]

What's a "Bricktown"?

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe Bricktown is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

[PhiAlpha]

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe Bricktown is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

Dan, I would be surprised if Urbanized was concerned about the lack of an old, old wooden ship, but nice try.