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  1. #26

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    Still on as far as I have heard.

  2. #27

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    I think there are still a lot of moving parts for the Frisco road development. I wouldn't plan on it in the next year or 2 from what I've heard. I do bet it still happens at some point though.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Hard to imagine a big-box retailer or fast food place that isn't already in the area:

    the west side doesn't have an Old Navy. They've been rumored for many years but nothing came to fruition. The inner west side of OKC could support another Target, Costco, SAMs is small and outdated, I could think of a handful of others west side is missing, even Academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxl144 View Post
    It's interesting they bring up the growth of the Yukon school district. Over the past year, the Mustang school district grew at nearly 9x the rate of Yukon and has almost 3k more students. The city of Tukon has managed to somehow stall growth. I suspect it has a lot to do with the location of the floodplain of the river, the location of Express Ranch, and the lack of major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon.


    Are you kidding ? There is an exit from the Kilpatrick on HWY 66 on the Northeast side. Hwy 66 is a divided four lane from the East on the North side . You have access from I-40 on GB Blvd, Czech Hall and Mustang Rd., (all 4 lane roads) all for a mere 2.5 miles of town North to the floodplain.
    There are no egress problems to Yukon from East, South or West.

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  6. #31

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    Not surprised. Even though Yukon says that development in OKC helps them (which it does), they'd still much rather have businesses in their city limits.

  7. #32

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    Based on what I've seen and the guy I've talked to at Academy, I'd bet they end up there. I could also see a Marshals or Old Navy going in as well.

  8. #33

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    That might be an excellent place for a fifth WinCo location, especially thanks to its proximity to Wal-Mart.

  9. #34

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    Just please put in a Penneys so I don't have to drive my Wife across town!

  10. #35

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    Speaking of that, the Cosby Ranch bldg in Mustang was going to be a live in treatment center for girls age 13-17. The City Council voted against the zoning approval b/c the center would not bring in any money to Mustang. I'm in complete agreement with that too. There are only 12 sq miles in the city limits and with churches buying up land and taking more of that area, where is the tax base going to come from? I hope the Mustang City council keeps this in mind going forward.

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    Grow west: Despite GBT plans, Yukon sticks with Frisco Road retail development

    By: Molly M. Fleming The Journal Record November 17, 2014

    YUKON – GBT Realty Corp. announced last week plans to build a 450,000-square-foot retail center at Interstate 40 and Czech Hall Road in Oklahoma City. Despite the proximity, the city of Yukon has not changed its plans to build a 750,000-square-foot retail center at Interstate 40 and Frisco Road.

    “It’s the right thing to do,” said Grayson Bottom, Yukon city manager. “We’ve gone way too far to back off now.”

    The city’s work on the area helped spur the Oklahoma Department of Transportation into changing its eight-year plan, which will now include creating an eastbound and westbound Frisco Road exit. The interchange is in the city’s tax increment finance district, which would fund the city’s portion of the construction costs. The total estimated construction bill is $16 million, with the city funding $5.6 million. The city will also fund the engineering and environmental studies, as well as any utility line relocations.

    For the retail site’s development, the city is working with Louisiana-based Prairie West Properties LLC. The site is west of Canadian Valley Hospital. Yukon Economic Development Authority Executive Director Larry Mitchell said the city has recently acquired the right of way to start developing the road to the retail site.

    While it’s not uncommon to have retail centers close to each other, the west Oklahoma City-Yukon area will have a combined 1.2 million square feet in new retail space. Price Edwards & Co. Senior Vice President of Retail Jim Parrack said he thinks the area can support that much new development.

    “The outlet mall and the Westgate Marketplace have proven that the area was under-retailed for a long period of time,” he said. “Also, the area draws significantly from western Oklahoma. Western Oklahoma is doing really well. There’s more money and more people out there that come back to Oklahoma City. I think if they’re done right, they’ll be successful. There’s still a pretty good number of retailers that ask about that area of town.”

    Parrack spoke recently about the lack of Class A retail space in Oklahoma City. He said he thinks the two new centers will aid retailers that want to be in west Oklahoma City, but he doesn’t expect companies to settle for those spaces rather than the market they really want.

    “I don’t think people will go over there that can’t find a place in Moore,” he said. “For people that want to be in west, northwest Oklahoma, I think the new centers will attract those folks.”

    The Frisco Road exit will also lead to a 250-acre sports complex at Frisco Road and U.S. 66. The complex could have facilities for softball, baseball and soccer.

    “Yukon didn’t have the facilities to accommodate the growing interest in those sports,” Mitchell said. “They were undersized. We didn’t have enough room for parking. There were teams going to other communities for tournaments, but that wasn’t the motivation.”

    Mitchell said with the school district’s football field, the bar was set high for athletic facilities. Now, the city is trying to provide equal-quality venues and has partnered with a consortium of five companies to complete the plan. Those companies will help with financing, master planning, and the project’s development and construction.

    “We will control what we can control,” Bottom said.

  12. #37

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    I thought Penney's was going out of business.

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuplar View Post
    I thought Penney's was going out of business.
    I certainly would not be investing in them but they were planning a Yukon location near the Target store but backed out since the shopping center was opening up just after the recession started.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    I certainly would not be investing in them but they were planning a Yukon location near the Target store but backed out since the shopping center was opening up just after the recession started.
    I still shop there, I just always hear about how they are doing poorly.

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    I'm not kidding.

    I hope somebody decides to use some of the space for a Polka Palace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    I'm not kidding.

    I hope somebody decides to use some of the space for a Polka Palace.
    Czech Hall is just a block away .....

  17. #42

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    This thread probably could benefit from being merged with the other one.

  18. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
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    Are you kidding ? There is an exit from the Kilpatrick on HWY 66 on the Northeast side. Hwy 66 is a divided four lane from the East on the North side . You have access from I-40 on GB Blvd, Czech Hall and Mustang Rd., (all 4 lane roads) all for a mere 2.5 miles of town North to the floodplain.
    There are no egress problems to Yukon from East, South or West.
    Wow, where to start here? Thank you for emphasizing my main point. There are NO major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon. I'm making the point about access to the undeveloped portions of the city of Yukon whose northern boundary is Wilshire.

    1. As pointed out there is the Kilpatrick turnpike. No disagreement there, so my choices are to exit on either Main St or Wilshire. Anything north of Main St is a two lane unimproved asphalt road and if you consider Wilshire west of Kilpatrick as sufficient to support any sort of regular traffic you are sorely mistaken.

    2. Main St in Yukon is bisected by a grade level railroad crossing which will at times impede traffic. Main St west of Ranchwood is also limited to 30 mph until you are west of Garth Brooks.

    3. Mustang Rd doesn't exist in Yukon. That road is named Yukon Parkway within city limits. It becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. and is limited to 35 mph north of the railroad tracks.

    4. Czech Hall Rd doesn't exit in Yukon. That road is named Cornwell within city limits. North of Main St it becomes a narrow two lane highway but it does gain a shoulder 1/4 mile south of Wilshire.

    5. Garth Brooks Blvd becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. The speed on Garth Brooks is limited to 35 mph.

    In addition Yukon is patrolled by an over zealous police force that will ticket you for 1 mph over the limit. This makes traversing across the developed city area a big pain.
    The main gist of all this is going to be that for the most part Yukon is tapped out on development except for the land left over in the Frisco Rd area and anything that hasn't been developed along Main St. All it will take is for Walmart to decide it wants to relocate across I40 to build a larger store and Yukon's commercial tax base will collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxl144 View Post
    Wow, where to start here? Thank you for emphasizing my main point. There are NO major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon. I'm making the point about access to the undeveloped portions of the city of Yukon whose northern boundary is Wilshire.
    1. As pointed out there is the Kilpatrick turnpike. No disagreement there, so my choices are to exit on either Main St or Wilshire. Anything north of Main St is a two lane unimproved asphalt road and if you consider Wilshire west of Kilpatrick as sufficient to support any sort of regular traffic you are sorely mistaken.

    2. Main St in Yukon is bisected by a grade level railroad crossing which will at times impede traffic. Main St west of Ranchwood is also limited to 30 mph until you are west of Garth Brooks.

    3. Mustang Rd doesn't exist in Yukon. That road is named Yukon Parkway within city limits. It becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. and is limited to 35 mph north of the railroad tracks.

    4. Czech Hall Rd doesn't exit in Yukon. That road is named Cornwell within city limits. North of Main St it becomes a narrow two lane highway but it does gain a shoulder 1/4 mile south of Wilshire.

    5. Garth Brooks Blvd becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. The speed on Garth Brooks is limited to 35 mph.

    In addition Yukon is patrolled by an over zealous police force that will ticket you for 1 mph over the limit. This makes traversing across the developed city area a big pain.
    The main gist of all this is going to be that for the most part Yukon is tapped out on development except for the land left over in the Frisco Rd area and anything that hasn't been developed along Main St. All it will take is for Walmart to decide it wants to relocate across I40 to build a larger store and Yukon's commercial tax base will collapse.
    Your point is ? You said no major roads to the North side of Yukon. .First off, why would you need a lot of egress to farmland ?. well, on GB Blvd, from I-40 it's only 1.5 miles to the RR tracks, and points to the North will never be developed because of the 100 year flood plain.
    I know Yukon better than most, I'm good friends with Shirley Cornwell whose grandpa Cornwell Avenue was named after. I moved there when the population was around 3,000. And in the 60's we called it Czech Hall Rd and Cornwell as the same. Yukon Parkway has been Yukon Parkway for just a few years now, and we all know why. The exit for Czech and Cornwell is more about Czech Hall Rd than Cornwell. There is no egress from I-40 to Cornwell, it's either 10th Street or Czech Hall. My point about Mustang Road, which is the exit from I-40, is why I used it as the reference point. You know how long that 2 mile stretch of Yukon Parkway has been called Mustang Road ? Well, it's been Mustang Road for decades.
    But besides all this technical rash, out of the 26 or so square miles of Yukon, the North Canadian river bottom makes up the majority of the corporate city limits, all the way to Banner from Sara Road. Yukon has more 4 lane roads in it's population density than it really needs.
    Now what your point is about - Undeveloped land that will never be developed in a flood plain ? Even though my reference was about you claiming NO egress from I-40. You have three 2 lane roads that serve that area off of main street. Richland, Cemetery and St HWY 4, lets call it this instead of Cornwell. Now there is a state plan to increase this road to 4 lanes in the works, but it's still years out. But for the areas to the Northwest, I don't think the sparseness in the area would qualify.
    Tax base collapse ? On GB Blvd, everything South of the interstate where the building is booming is in Yukon, no worry about a collapse there.
    And to end it.... Cops giving a ticket for 1 MPH over ? You just lost all credibility.

  20. #45

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    Just out of curiosity I checked FEMA's site and the flood zones around the river is generally just between a quarter mile to a half mile wide (north to south) in Yukon, so in most places the established parts of Yukon can continue expanding between a mile to a mile and a half north. It is going to be a long time before the area around Wilshire that far west is going to be marketable as something other than it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    Just out of curiosity I checked FEMA's site and the flood zones around the river is generally just between a quarter mile to a half mile wide (north to south) in Yukon, so in most places the established parts of Yukon can continue expanding at least two miles north. It is going to be a long time before Wilshire that far west is going to be marketable as something other than it is now.
    North of Wilshire is OKC. Yukon is very limited as far as buildable land goes, like was pointed out, it's west along old 66 is about it, and a few of the farmers that I know out there won't sell.

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    Had a hunch Academy would put a store there.

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