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  1. #51

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    Nate Silver has a decent analysis of voter ID laws and the effect on the vote -

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...fication-laws/

    One last thing to consider: although I do think these laws will have some detrimental effect on Democratic turnout, it is unlikely to be as large as some Democrats fear or as some news media reports imply — and they can also serve as a rallying point for the party bases. So although the direct effects of these laws are likely negative for Democrats, it wouldn’t take that much in terms of increased base voter engagement — and increased voter conscientiousness about their registration status — to mitigate them.
    and

    With that said, there is also not necessarily a reason to think that the laws would reduce turnout by more than a couple of percentage points. It’s important to keep the following in mind:

    The vast majority of adults do have some sort of identification.
    Many people who do not have identification are not registered to vote — or if they are registered, they are unlikely to turn out.
    The laws may be inconsistently enforced by thousands and thousands of poll workers at the precinct level.
    In many cases, voters without proper identification can cast a provisional ballot, which could eventually be counted in the event of a vote-counting dispute.
    The campaigns have an opportunity to educate their voters about ID requirements as part of their turnout operations.

  2. #52

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    Dang it got salty in here....

    Why all the sudden are people so interested in Voter ID laws? Haven't we been voting a long time with no identification needed and gone along pretty well. I feel this might just be a political issue to fire up both bases. Repubs for blaming losses on fraud and Dems firing up the poor and minorities to get out a vote.

    I also wanted to add from earlier that I don't think online voting would shoot the voting numbers up any. I think people just don't like voting between two candidates where one is only just slightly worse than the other. Want to change America? Lets have more than two parties. Could be fun.

  3. #53

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    It's not really that new.. voter ID laws have been debated pretty regularly for the past decade or two (and maybe longer).

    The Carter Institute did an interested study on them 6 or so years ago..

    Jimmy Carter and James Baker III Op-Ed ? A Clearer Picture on Voter ID

    I like the last paragraph -

    In the meantime, the Supreme Court can lead the way on the voter ID issue. It has the opportunity to inspire the states, our national leaders and the entire country to bridge the partisan divide on a matter that is important to our democracy. It can support voter ID laws that make it easy to vote but tough to cheat.
    To me, that bolded part is a reasonable goal...

  4. #54

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    But I mean we have been voting for 200 years. Now not all people could vote (non-land owners, minorities, women). Since the civil rights act in '64 everybody votes now. So 50 years of voting in this fashion and now laws are being passed and knocked down. I just find it interesting.

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    But I mean we have been voting for 200 years. Now not all people could vote (non-land owners, minorities, women). Since the civil rights act in '64 everybody votes now. So 50 years of voting in this fashion and now laws are being passed and knocked down. I just find it interesting.

    I'm still waiting for evidence of rampant voter fraud.

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    Nate Silver has a decent analysis of voter ID laws and the effect on the vote -

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...fication-laws/



    and
    OK, so it probably wouldn't be that bad. Just 2 percentage points or about two and a half million people (for a presidential election). They can just make that up, right?

    But why should they have to for a law that serves no purpose? Silver's conclusions basically just furthers the point that everyone should just let it go, because there's probably not much of an effect, right? Not only does it not stop a fraud that's not happening, it won't provide much of the political advantage either.

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  8. #58

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    In Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds. In recent years, my office has secured more than 50 voter fraud convictions.

    wow, that's going to sway the elections big time LOL I'll let you figure out the percentage of those 50 from the appx 14 million registered voters in Texas.

  9. #59

    Default Re: Voter ID Laws

    Alabama
    Clifford Don Twilley: vote buying (2011)
    Karen Tipton Berry: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Gay Nell Tinker: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Alaska
    Rogelio Mejorada-Lopez: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Rogelio Mejorada-Lopez, No. 05-CR-074 (2005)
    Arkansas
    Robert T. Rogers: Illegally cast ballots (2006). See Baker v. Rogers, 243 SW. 3d 911 (Ark. 2006)
    Jack Crumbly: Illegal signatures on ballots, double voting, and non-resident voting (2006). See Willis v. Crumbly, 268 S.W. 3d 288 (Ark. 2006)
    Sherry Tate-Smith: absentee ballot fraud, double voting, non-resident voting (2003). See Tate-Smith v. Cupples, 134 S.W. 3d 535 (Ark. 2003)
    Arizona
    Gina Thi Canova: voter registration fraud and illegal voting (2011)
    Peter Canova: voter registration fraud and illegal voting (2011)
    Rodney Paul Jones: double voting (2011)
    Margarito Blancas: non-citizen voting (2005)
    Carlos Magallanes: non-citizen voting (2005)
    California
    Nativo Lopez: voter registration fraud (2011)
    Eloise Garcia-Mohsin: falsely filing election documents (2010)
    Mark Jacoby: voter registration fraud (2009)
    Domenica Malburg: fraudulent voting and voter registration fraud (2009)
    Leonis Malburg: aiding illegal votes and voter registration fraud (2009)
    Don Cornell Williams: voter registration fraud (2008)
    Colorado
    Shah: non-citizen voter registration (2005). See United States v. Shah, No. 04-CR-00458 (2005)
    Connecticut
    Barnaby Horton: absentee ballot fraud (2003)
    Florida
    Maurice Childress: false swearing in an election (2010)
    Greg "Charlie" Burke: voter registration fraud (2008)
    Mohsin Ali: non-citizen voting (2006). See States v. Mohsin Ali, 4:05-CR-47 (2006)
    Bennett: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Bennett, No. 04-CR-14048 (2005)
    Chaudhury: non-citizen voter registration (2006) United States v. Chaudhury, 4:04-CR-0005 (2006)
    Exavier: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Exavier, No. 04-CR-60161 (2005)
    Francois: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Francois, No. 04-CR-60159 (2005)
    Bain Knight: non-citizen voting (2005). See States v. Bain Knight, No. 04-CR-14047 (2005)
    Lubin: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Lubin, No. 04-CR-60163 (2005)
    McKenzie: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. McKenzie, Case No. 04-CR-60160 (2005)
    O'Neil: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. O'Neil, No. 04-CR-60165 (2005)
    Lloyd Palmer: non-citizen voting (2005). See States v. Lloyd Palmer, No. 04-CR-60159 (2005)
    Velrine Palmer: non-citizen voting (2005). See States v. Velrine Palmer, No. 04-CR-60162 (2005)
    Philip: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Phillip, No. 04-CR-80103 (2005)
    Rickman: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Rickman, No. 04-CR-20491 (2005)
    Shivdayal: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Shivdayal, No. 04-CR-60164 (2005)
    Sweeting: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Sweeting, No. 04-CR-20489 (2005)
    Torres-Perez: non-citizen voting (2005). See United States v. Torres-Perez, No. 04-CR-14046 (2005)
    Velasquez: non-citizen voting (2003). See United States v. Velasquez, No. 1:03-CR-20233 (2003)
    Liltovia Rhodes: false swearing in an election (2003)
    Carlos Torres: false swearing in an election (2003)
    Evangeline Williams: false swearing in an election (2003)
    Lilkevia Williams: false swearing in an election (2003)
    Richard Williams: false swearing in an election (2003)
    Kashawn John : false swearing in an election (2003)
    Gilda Oliveros: vote fraud (2003)
    Humberto Hernandez: vote fraud (1998)
    Georgia
    Nathaniel Gosha: offering to sell absentee votes and absentee ballot fraud (2004)
    Jackson Jones: buying votes (1999). See United States v. McCranie, 169 F.3d 723 (11th Cir. 1999)
    Don McCranie: buying votes (1999). See United States v. McCranie, 169 F.3d 723 (11th Cir. 1999)
    Felton Daniels Sr.: vote buying (1997)
    Leonard Eady: vote buying (1997)
    Curtis "Tap" Hamilton: vote buying (1997)
    Janice Revel: vote buying (1997)
    Steele, Gary Mark: vote buying (1997)
    Bryant W. Williams: vote buying (1997)
    George Grover Yawn: vote buying (1997)
    John Jeff Yawn: vote buying (1997)
    Idaho
    Jim Brannon: fraudulent absentee ballots, double voting and non-resident voting (2010). See Brannon v. City of Couer D'Alene CV 2009-10010 (2010)
    Iowa
    Christopher Mettin: non-citizen voting (2011)
    Patrick Lyons: felon voting (2011)
    Illinois
    Maria Azada: non-citizen voting (2011)
    Michael Collins: vote fraud (2011)
    Deidra Humphrey: voter registration fraud (2009)
    Charles Powell: vote fraud (2007)
    Kevin Ellis: vote fraud (2007)
    Yvette Johnson: vote buying (2007)
    Jesse Lewis: vote buying (2007)
    Sheila Thomas: vote buying (2007)
    Nichols: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Nichols, No. 3:05-CR-30041 (2005)
    Powell: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Powell, et al, No. 3:05-CR-30044 (2005)
    Scott: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Scott, No. 3:05-CR-3004 (2005)
    Terrance Stith: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Terrance Stith, No. 3:05-CR-30042 (2005)
    Sandra Stith: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Sandra Stith, No. 3:05-CR-30043 (2005)
    Indiana

    Charlie White: voter registration fraud (2011)
    Ricardo Alamillo: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Jose Arroyo: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Edwin Aviles: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Rachel Aviles: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Larry Battle: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Brian Berkman: voting in another precinct ( 2007)
    Tonya Bronaugh: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Raymond Carillo: voting in another precinct (2007)
    John Carlyle: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Michelle Chandler: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Dolores Croy: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Robert Crow: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Mario Del Valle: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Alicia Dunbar: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Ivan Dunbar: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Ashley Dunlap: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Ezequiel Godinez: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Florentino Guillen: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Ramon Guillen, Jr.: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Michael Harretos: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Demetreos Hasapis: voting in another precinct (2006)
    Natividad Hernandez: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Mabel Komendat: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Ronald Komendat: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Tamika Lay: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Valerie McGowan: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Alyicia Mendiola: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Antonio Mendiola: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Pedro Moro: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Mark Orosco: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Eduardo Perez: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Glenn Pitts: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Yolanda Ramirez: voting in another precinct 2007)
    Allan "Twig" Simmons: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Constance Simmons-Pedraza: voting in another precinct (2006)
    Tolbert Levones: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Armando Vera: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Arthur Vera: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Elvia Vera: voting in another precinct (2007)
    Shelly White: voting in another precinct ( 2007)
    Ponciano Herrara: voter fraud (2006)
    Terrance Law: voter fraud (2006)
    Joseph Pedraza: voting in another precinct (2006)
    Randall Artis: vote fraud (2006)
    Roy Davis: voter impersonation (2006)
    Christopher Lopez: vote fraud (2005)
    Michael Lopez: vote fraud (2005)
    Kansas

    Leslie McIntosh: double voting (2004). See United States v. McIntosh, No. 2:04-CR-20142 (2004)
    Kentucky

    Douglas C. Adams: vote buying (2010)
    Stanley Bowling: vote buying (2010)
    Charles Wayne Jones: vote buying (2010)
    R. Cletus Maricle: vote buying (2010)
    Debra L. Morris: vote buying (2010)
    William Bart Morris: vote buying (2010)
    Stivers, William: vote buying (2010)
    Freddy W. Thompson: vote buying (2010)
    Phillip Dion Slone: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Slone, 411 F.3d 643 (6th Cir. 2005)
    Loren Glenn Turner: vote fraud (2005)
    Ross Harris: vote buying (2004)
    Tyrell Matthews Braud: voter registration fraud (2003). See States v. Braud, No. 3:03-CR-0001 (2003)
    Calhoun: vote buying (2003). See United States v. Calhoun, No. 7:03-CR-00017 (2003)
    Conley: vote buying (2003). See United States v. Conley, No. 7:03-CR-00013 (2003)
    Hays: vote buying (2003). See United States v. Hays, No. 7:03-CR-00011 (2003)
    Johnson: vote buying (2003). See United States v. Johnson, No. 7:03-CR-00018 (2003)
    Madden: vote buying (2003). See United States v. Madden, No. 7:03-CR-00015 (2003)
    Todd Newport: vote buying (2011)
    Donnie Newsome: vote fraud (2003)
    Corey Page: vote buying (2011)
    Michael Page: vote buying (2011)
    Smith: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Smith, 139 Fed. Appx. 681 (2005)
    Louisiana

    Lincoln Carmouche: bribing a voter (2002)
    Larry Dauzat: vote buying (2002)
    Pamela Thibodeaux: voter registration fraud (2005). See States v. Thibodeaux, 6:03-CR-60055 (2005)
    Maine

    Delmer Terrill: multiple voting (2010)
    Massachusetts

    Fyntrilakis: non-resident voting (1999). See Fyntrilakis v. City of Springfield, 713 N.E. 2d 1007 (1999)
    Michigan

    Jason Bauer: election fraud (2011)
    Disimone: double voting (2002). See People v. Disimone, 650 N.W.2d 436 (2002)
    Adam Mucklin: felon voting (2008)
    Mike McGuinness: election fraud (2011)
    Edward Pinkney: election fraud (2007)
    Woods: election fraud (2000). See People v. Woods, 616 N.W.2d 211 (2000)
    Minnesota

    Lisa May Burleson: felon voting (2011)
    Alfreda Denise Bowman: voting while ineligible (2011)
    Lavern Antoinette Bowman: voting while ineligible (2011)
    Adam Charles Bromander: voting while ineligible (2011)
    Antonio Vassel Brown: voting while ineligible (2011)
    Murock Francis McLeod, Jr.: voting while ineligible (2011)
    Barbara Ann Nyhammer: double voting, absentee ballot fraud (2011)
    Missouri

    Brian Bland: voter registration fraud (2008). See States v. Bland, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2008)
    Bobbie Jean Cheeks a/k/a Dorothy Jones and Bobbie Tobert: voter registration fraud (2008). See United States v. Cheeks, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2008)
    Cowan Cortez: voter registration fraud (2008). See States v. Cortez, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2008)
    Carmen Davis: voter registration fraud (2007). See United States v. Davis, No. 07-00010-01-CR-W-FJG (2007)
    Dale D. Franklin: failure or refusal to permit casting of votes (2007). See United States v. Franklin, No. 06-00377-01-CR-W-GAF (2007)
    Brian G. Gardner: voter registration fraud (2007). See States v. Brian G. Gardner, No. 06-00378-01-CR-W-SOW (2007)
    Gibson Golden: voter registration fraud (2007). See States v. Gibson, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2007)
    Marie Smith Radonna: voter registration fraud (2007). See States v. Smith, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2007)
    Anthony M. Reliford: voter registration fraud (2007). See States v. Reliford, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2007)
    Kwaim A. Stenson: failure or refusal to permit casting vote 2007). See United States v. Stenson, No. 06-00385-01-CR-W-GAF (2007)
    Kenneth Demond Williams: voter registration fraud (2007). See States v. Williams, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2007)
    Tyaria L. Williams: voter registration fraud (2007). See States of America v. Williams, No. 04:07-cr-00763 (2007)
    James Scherzer: double voting (2005). See United States v. Scherzer, No. 4:04-CR-00401 (2007)
    Lorraine Goodrich: double voting (2005). See United States v. Goodrich, No. 4:04-CR-00402 (2007)
    Brandon E. Jones: double voting (2005). See United States v. Jones, No. 4:05-CR-00257 (2007)
    Tammy J.Martin: double voting (2005). See States v. Martin, No. 4:05-CR-0025 (2007)
    Nonaresa Montgomery: vote fraud (2004)
    Mississippi

    Lessadolla Sowers: absentee ballot fraud (2011)
    Terrance Watts:double voting (2011)
    Kenny Ray Bowen: vote fraud (2010)
    Jasper Buggs, Sr.: vote fraud (2010)
    James Bullock: vote fraud (2010)
    Tate King: vote fraud (2010)
    Billy Street: vote fraud (2010)
    Ronnie Wilkerson: vote fraud (2010)
    Lillie Jean Norton: vote fraud (2007)
    Ada Tucker: vote fraud (2007)
    Greg Eason: vote fraud (2003) See Eason v. State, 2005 Miss. App. LEXIS 101 (2005)
    North Carolina

    Sheila Ramona Hodge: double voting (2011)
    Kierra Fontae Leach: double voting (2011)
    Brandon Earl McLean: double voting (2011)
    Lela Devonetta Murray: double voting (2011)
    Ross "Toogie" Banner: vote buying (2004). See States v. Shatley, et al., No. 5:03-CR-00035 (2004)
    Carlos Hood: vote buying (2004). See United States v. Shatley, et al., No. 5:03-CR-00035 (2004)
    Anita Moore: vote buying (2004). See United States v. Shatley, et al., No. 5:03-CR-00035 (2004)
    Valerie Moore: vote buying (2004). See United States v. Shatley, et al., No. 5:03-CR-00035 (2004)
    Wayne Shatley: vote buying (2004). See United States v. Shatley, et al., No. 5:03-CR-00035 (2004)
    Joshua Workman: non-citizen voting (2003). See States v. Workman,, No. 1:03-CR-00038 (2003)
    North Dakota
    Jamie Rodahl: double voting (2005)
    Nebraska
    Eddie Pierce: voter registration fraud (2010)
    New Hampshire
    Christopher Luke Fithian: double voting (2009)
    New Jersey
    Belkis M. Cespedes: vote fraud (2010)
    Octavio A. Dominguez: vote fraud (2010)
    Juana A. Gill: vote fraud (2010)
    Jose E. Gonzalez: vote fraud (2010)
    Lucia A. Guzman: vote fraud (2010)
    Ronald Harris: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Lourdes Inoa: vote fraud (2010)
    Inocencio Jimenez: vote fraud (2010)
    Rodriguez, Dalila: vote fraud (2010)
    Jose Ramon Ruiz: vote fraud (2010)
    Marty Small: vote fraud (2010)
    Ernest Storr: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Wilson A. Torres: vote fraud (2010)
    Ana Vely-Gomez: vote fraud (2010)
    Joaquin Caceres: tampering with ballots and fraudulently submitting ballots (2009)
    Edwin Crus: tampering with ballots and fraudulently submitting ballots (2009)
    John Fernandez: tampering with ballots and fraudulently submitting ballots (2009)
    Samuel Gonzalez: tampering with ballots and fraudulently submitting ballots (2009)
    Jonathon Kowalski: tampering with ballots and fraudulently submitting ballots (2009)
    Jihad Q. Abdullah: vote fraud (2003)
    David Callaway: vote fraud (2003)
    Toni Dixon: vote fraud ( 2003)
    Michelle Griffin: vote fraud ( 2003)
    Floyd Tally: vote fraud ( 2003)
    New Mexico

    David S. Chavez: illegally opening a ballot box (2002)
    Horacio Favela: voter registration fraud and double voting 2009)
    Vicky Martinez: election fraud (2002)
    Nevada
    Amy Adele Busefink: vote fraud (2011)
    Christopher Howell Edwards: vote fraud (2011)
    New York

    William A. McInerny: absentee ballot fraud 2011)
    John Kennedy O'Hara: lying about voting address (2001)
    Ohio

    Daniel "Tate" Hausman: illegal voting (2009)
    Yolanda Hippensteele: illegal voting (2009)
    Amy Little: illegal voting (2009)
    Jacqueline Maiden: recount fraud (2007)
    Kathleen Dreamer: recount fraud (2004)
    Oklahoma
    Darryl Cates: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Oregon
    Lafayette Fredrick Keaton: voter impersonation (2011)
    Pennsylvania
    Ashley L. Clarke: registration buying and voter impersonation (2009)
    Alexis Givner: voter impersonation (2009)
    Mario Grisom: vote fraud (2009)
    Eric Lee Jones: vote fraud (2009)
    Eric Eugene Jordan: vote buying (2009)
    Latasha Leann Kinney: voter impersonation (2009)
    Bryan Williams: vote fraud (2009)
    Jemar Barksdal: voter registration fraud(2008)
    Peggy Bouras: vote fraud (1999)
    Craig Cummons: absentee ballot fraud (1999)
    Shirley Hughes: vote fraud (1999)
    Austin J. Murphy: vote fraud (1999)
    Rhode Island
    Robert Costa: fraudulent voting 2004)
    Keith Costa: fraudulent voting 2004)
    Agnes Mancini: fraudulent voting (2011)
    Anthony Mancini: fraudulent voting (2011)
    South Carolina
    Christopher Campbell: election fraud (2007)
    South Dakota
    Rudolph Vargas: double voting (2005). See United States v. Vargas, 05-CR-5008 (2005)
    Becky Red-Earth Villeda: absentee ballot fraud (2003)
    Tennessee
    Brenda Woods: procuring an illegal vote (2010)
    Texas
    Pecos Trinidad Villalobos: illegally transporting ballots (2004)
    Virginia
    Troy Bernard Fobbs Sr.: illegal voting and registration fraud (2009)
    Ben Cooper: vote buying and stealing absentee ballots (2007)
    Wilson: election fraud (2000). See Wilson v. Commonwealth, 2000 Va. App. LEXIS 32 (2000)
    Washington
    Susan Reisenhoover: voter impersonation (2009)
    Brianna Rose Debwa: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Robert Edward Greene: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Tina Marie Johnson: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Clifton Eugene Mitchell: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Ryan Edward Olson: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Kendra Lynn Thill: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Jayson Lee Woods: voter registration fraud (2007)
    Wisconsin

    Kevin Clancy: voter registration fraud (2010)
    Michael Henderson: illegal voting (2010)
    Edward G.Johnson: illegal voting (2010)
    David Lewis: felon voting (2010)
    Ramon Martinez: felon voting (2010)
    Maria Miles: election fraud (2010)
    Frank Edmund Walton: voter registration fraud (2008)
    Olando Maclin: voting while disqualified 2007)
    Kimberly Prude: felon voting (2007)
    Cynthia C.Alicea: multiple voting (2005). See United States v. Alicea 2:05-CR-00168 (2005)
    Ethel M. Anderson: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Anderson 2:05-CR-00207 (2005)
    Deshawn B.Brooks: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Brooks 2:05-CR-00170 (2005)
    Theresa J. Byas: double voting (2005). See United States v. Byas 2:05-MJ-00455 (2005)
    Jiyto L.Cox: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Cox 2:05-CR-00209 (2005)
    Brian L. Davis: double voting (2005). See United States v. Davis 2:05-MJ-00454 (2005)
    Correan F. Edwards: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Edwards 2:05-CR-00211 (2005)
    Joseph J. Gooden: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Gooden, 2:05-CR-00212 (2005)
    Alexander T. Hamilton: felon voting (2005). See States v. Hamilton 2:05-CR-00171 (2005)
    Derek G. Little: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Little 2:05-CR-00172 (2005)
    Milo R. Ocasio: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Ocasio 2:05-CR-00161 (2005)
    Kimberly Prude: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Prude 2:05-CR-00162 (2005)
    Enrique C. Sanders: multiple voting (2005). See States v. Sanders 2:05-CR-00163 (2005)
    Eric L. Swift: felon voting (2005). See United States v. Swift 2:05-CR-00177 (2005)
    West Virginia

    Ralph Dale Adkins: vote buying (2006); United States v. Adkins, No. 2:04-CR-00162(2006)
    Toney "Zeke" Dingess: vote buying (2006)
    Clifford Odell "Groundhog" Vance: vote buying (2006)
    Greg Stowers: vote fraud (2006)
    Glen Dale Adkins: voting selling (2005). See United States v. Adkins, No. 05-CR-00148 (2005)
    Jackie Adkins: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Adkins, No. 2:04-CR-00162 (2005)
    Wandell Lee "Rocky" Adkins: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Adkins, No. 2:04-CR-00162 (2005)
    Perry French Harvey, Jr.: vote buying (2005). See States v. Harvey, No. 05-CR-00161 (2005)
    Mark Oliver Hrutkay: conspiracy to influence voting (2005). See United States v. Hrutkay, No. 2:04-CR-00149 (2005)
    Alvin Ray Porter, Jr.: conspiracy to influence voting (2005). See United States v. Porter, No. 2:04-CR-00145 (2005)
    Jerry Weaver: vote buying (2005). See United States v. Adkins, 2:04-CR-00162 (2005)
    Danny Ray Wells: conspiracy to influence voting (2004). See United States v. Wells, No. 02-CR-00234 (2004)
    Johnny Mendez: conspiracy to influence voting (2004). See United States v. Mendez, No. 2:04-CR-00101 (2004)
    Wyoming

    Carolyn Paseneaux: vote fraud (2000)

  10. #60

    Default Re: Voter ID Laws

    Vote Fraud News

    9/26/14: Connecticut Democrat state representative arrested on 19 charges of vote fraud
    Democrat State Representative Christina Ayala has been arrested on 19 charges of voting fraud, including: eight misdemeanor counts of fraudulent voting, ten felony counts of primary or enrollment violations and one felony count of tampering with or fabricating physical evidence. Her arraignment is scheduled for October 7. Bridgeport State Rep. Christina Ayala arrested on 19 voting fraud charges , NH Register, September 26, 2014

    9/18/14: Ex-Kentucky judge disbarred due to vote fraud
    Former Clay County Circuit Judge Cletus R. Maricle has been permanently disbarred following his guilty plea of committing vote fraud. Court documents showed Maricle had used his position to bribe officials, candidates for county offices, defendants in his court, and family members of defendants in his court. Ex-Judge Convicted of Vote Fraud , Lexington Herald-Leader, September 18, 2014.

    9/9/14: Georgia launches fraud investigation into voter registration group
    A preliminary investigation into the New Georgia Project has revealed significant illegal activities including forged voter registration applications, forged signatures on releases and applications with false or inaccurate information. The New Georgia Project is an offshoot of the organization Third Sector Development, a group founded and led by Democrat GA House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams. State launches fraud investigation into voter registration group , Channel Two Action News, September 9, 2014.

    8/25/14: Fairfax County Electoral Board Refers Potential Voter Fraud Cases for Investigation
    The Fairfax County Electoral Board referred 17 individuals to the DOJ for investigation of possible voter fraud. The individuals seem to have voted in both Fairfax County as well as throughout Maryland in the 2012 elections, and in the case of some individuals, multiple elections over the last decade. Fairfax County Electoral Board Refers Potential Voter Fraud Cases for Investigation , Fairfax County Press Release, August 25, 2014.

    8/21/14: Investigations underway, suspected voter fraud in Virginia and Maryland
    Virginia Voters Alliance drew attention to multiple duplicate voter registrations in Maryland and Virginia. They said there are 14,646 duplicate registrations between Fairfax County, VA and Maryland alone. If a voter is convicted of voter fraud in Maryland, they are still allowed to vote, as it is only a misdemeanor; in Virginia, it can result in a year in prison and $2,500 fine. Investigations underway, suspected voter fraud in Virginia and Maryland , Daily Caller, August 21, 2014.

    6/27/14: Allegations of Voter Fraud in Hotly Contested Minn. House DFL Primary Race
    More than 140 people are alleged to have listed their current address as a mail center in the basement of a Minneapolis, Minn. commercial property while registering to vote. An investigation has been started as to whether or not there is a coordinated effort to register voters using the 419 Cedar Avenue address in Minneapolis. Some of these “voters” may also have been registered without knowing. Allegations of Voter Fraud in Hotly Contested Minn. House DFL Primary Race , Eyewitness 5 ABC News, June 27, 2014.

    6/20/14: Dothan commissioner’s girlfriend indicted on voter fraud charges
    An Alabama grand jury indicted the girlfriend of Dothan, AL commissioner Amos Newsome on 23 counts of vote fraud in the campaign to re-elect Newsome last August. The alleged vote fraud scheme includes two additional women – one charged with 20 counts of vote fraud, the other charged with 10. Dothan commissioner’s girlfriend indicted on voter fraud charges , Dothan First, June 20, 2014.

    6/12/14: Judge orders new election in Weslaco City commissioner race due to vote fraud
    A Texas judge invalidated a city commissioner election as a result of vote fraud. The judge carefully evaluated each of the 44 contested votes and found many of them were cast by people who deliberately and illegally voted under a “home is where the heart is” residency standard – they registered at homes belonging to the fraudulently-elected commissioner’s friends, neighbors, and relatives. Judge orders new election in Weslaco City commissioner race , KRGV, June 12, 2014.

    6/10/14: NH man pleads guilty to voting illegally
    A Massachusetts man pled guilty to illegally voting in both the 2008 and 2012 NH primaries. He was charged with one felony county and two misdemeanor counts of “wrongful voting” under NH law for traveling from Massachusetts to New Hampshire to cast votes in both primaries. He was fined $5,000 and given a suspended prison term of one to three years. Carver man pleads guilty to voting illegally in NH , Taunton Daily Gazette, June 10, 2014.

    5/22/14: Former Bolivar city council member sentenced for vote fraud
    Former Bolivar, TN City Councilwoman Brenda Woods was sentenced for corralling felons to vote for her in the city’s 2009 municipal elections. Woods transported three felons to the polls to case votes for her. She used this method for her election to city council and her failed mayoral bid. She received a suspended sentence of two years in prison, and has lost her voting rights and her ability to run for elected office. Former Bolivar city council member sentenced , JRN News Channel 5, May 22, 2014.

    5/12/14: Nashville election worker fired over double voting
    A Tennessee state elections commissioner is questioning whether to certify election results after six people voted twice in a Davidson County election last week. The fraudulent voters cast absentee ballots and also appeared at the polls on Election Day. The election worker has been fired. Nashville election worker fired over double voting , Tennessean, May 12, 2014.

    4/21/14: Complaint Against Robert Garcia Suggests Voter Fraud
    A California mayoral candidate is alleged to have recruited between 15 and 20 non-voters to cast absentee ballots illegally in April. The formal complaint submitted to the Los Angeles County District Attorney states that candidate Robert Garcia hired a bus to transport the individuals into the district to request absentee ballots. Complaint Against Robert Garcia Suggests Voter Fraud , Hews Media Group, April 21, 2014.

    4/21/14: Woman Arrested in NV on Voter Fraud
    An illegal immigrant with a Nevada ID was arrested in California on two felony charges for allegedly using a false ID to register to vote and also for casting ballots in NV elections. Authorities confirmed that the woman also voted in both the 2008 and 2010 elections. Woman Arrested in NV on Voter Fraud , KOLO News, April 21, 2014.

    5/8/14: Final Report: 117 fraudulent votes found in investigation
    A two-year investigation of voter fraud in Iowa uncovered 117 illegally cast votes resulting in six criminal convictions. The crimes included non-citizen voting and felony voting. Final Report: 117 Fraudulent Votes Found in Investigation , The Des Moines Register, May 8, 2014.

    5/9/14: Three Houston County Women Accused of Felony Voter Fraud
    Houston County Sheriff’s Office arrested three women on charges of voter fraud after the narrowly decided election. Police conducted a thorough investigation in which they discovered that the three women created and submitted false ballots in August 2013. Three Houston County Women Accused of Felony Voter Fraud , WTVY News, May 9, 2014.

    4/23/14: Two more indicted for vote fraud in Hamilton County
    A poll worker in Hamilton County, OH is the eighth person to be indicted on charges of illegal voting in 2013. Authorities say that Ellen Elizabeth Duncan submitted an absentee ballot and also appeared at the polls on Election Day. Two More Indicted for Vote Fraud in Hamilton County , WVXU News, April 23, 2014.

    5/8/14: Arraignment Postponed for Paterson Councilman, Wife in Election-Fraud Indictment
    New Jersey authorities arrested mayoral candidate Rigo Rodriguez and his wife on charges that they submitted ballots as votes for people who did not vote in 2010. Prosecutors also stated that Rodriguez instructed campaign workers to lie to authorities investigating the allegations. Arraignment Postponed for Paterson Councilman, Wife in Election-Fraud Indictment , Examiner, February 17, 2014.

    5/13/14: Wild Acres Man Charged with Voter Fraud in Board Election
    Pennsylvania police have charged a man with ballot tampering in Pike County. Myron Cowher allegedly stole 70 ballots and planned to use different colored ink pens so the ballots did not all look the same. Wild Acres Man Charged with Voter Fraud in Board Election , The News Eagle, May 13, 2014.

    5/1/14: Alabama Supreme Court to Look at Voter Fraud Allegations
    The Alabama Supreme Court will reconsider allegations of voter fraud by college students. The students allegedly received illegal alcohol in exchange for their votes. Alabama Supreme Court to Look at Voter Fraud Allegations , WIAT News, May 1, 2014.

    4/15/14: Two Accused of Voter Fraud in 2012 Election
    Texas officials recently arrested two felons for alleged voter fraud after voting in May 2012. The two men allegedly knew they were not eligible to vote in the election. Two Accused of Voter Fraud in 2012 Election , Alice Echo News Journal, April 15, 2014.

    2/17/14: New York: Noncitizens to Vote in New York?
    Under a plan being pushed by de Blasio and the council, noncitizens, including illegal immigrants, would be given city-issued identification cards. . . .GOP State Senator Greg Ball this would open the door to noncitizens, including illegal aliens, to vote illegally in New York State Elections. N.Y. GOP Sen. says Bill de Blasio plans for illegal voting in New York , Examiner, February 17, 2014.

    1/27/14: New Hampshire: Temporary Campaign Staffer Continues to be "Voted" After Moving
    We confirmed with the city clerk’s office that a vote under Former Jeanne Shaheen spokesperson Caitlin Legack's name and address was recorded. But Legacki moved out of New Hampshire shortly after the 2008 election (in which she voted) and was in St. Louis on Election Day 2012, working for U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill. ." Vote fraud: It, and mistakes, happen, Union Leader, January 27, 2014.

    1/27/14: Texas: Hispanics are the Victims of Vote Fraud
    In one example listed in the lawsuit, 23 voters who cast a ballot in favor of Rivera were registered to a home on East 6th street in Weslaco. Controversy over voter fraud continues in Weslaco, Action 4 News, January 27, 2014.

    1/12/14: Texas: Campaign Workers trade cash, drugs, beer and more for votes
    Three women working as politiqueras in the 2012 elections in Donna were arrested by F.B.I. agents in December and accused of giving residents cash, drugs, beer and cigarettes in exchange for their votes. Texas Vote-Buying Case Casts Glare on Tradition of Election Day Goads, New York Times, January 12, 2014.

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    And yes, some of these include absentee fraud, and registration fraud, and other offenses. But there are plenty of false votes, double voting, dead person voting, etc examples as well. And considering how difficult it is to identify and catch folks committing fraud, the absence of more evidence is not the evidence of absence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    Alabama
    Clifford Don Twilley: vote buying (2011)
    Karen Tipton Berry: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    Gay Nell Tinker: absentee ballot fraud (2010)
    A majority of those were vote buying, how is a voter ID going to stop that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMonk View Post
    No, it's not a poll tax, it's the price of obtaining an ID. An ID that can be used for things other than voting.

    I'm pretty sure that you need to be at least partially dressed to vote as well. Is the price of your clothing considered a poll tax?
    A US citizen isnt required to have an ID to be a, well, US citizen. So it costs money and time to get an ID if it is required to vote, which IMO is equivalent to a poll tax. And some SC Justices agree. If an ID is required, and a registered voter doesnt have an ID (you dont have to have an ID in Okla to register) then I think the cost of obtaining that required ID should be up to the state. Many of these laws are a burden on minorities and the poor and hampers their ability to vote, plain and simple.
    Its even more bogus that things like a student ID isnt allowed.

    Im pretty sure you need to be clothed to go out in public anyways, or you risk public indecency. So that analogy fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    And yes, some of these include absentee fraud, and registration fraud, and other offenses. But there are plenty of false votes, double voting, dead person voting, etc examples as well. And considering how difficult it is to identify and catch folks committing fraud, the absence of more evidence is not the evidence of absence.
    I agree there probable is but what are the numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    I agree there probable is but what are the numbers?
    It's sort of like gun statistics... poorly tracked and collected, so it's hard to get a clear picture. I don't know that anyone has really good numbers or statistics on this, especially since you can't track the crimes that you don't catch or know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthestrip View Post
    A US citizen isnt required to have an ID to be a, well, US citizen. So it costs money and time to get an ID if it is required to vote, which IMO is equivalent to a poll tax. And some SC Justices agree. If an ID is required, and a registered voter doesnt have an ID (you dont have to have an ID in Okla to register) then I think the cost of obtaining that required ID should be up to the state. Many of these laws are a burden on minorities and the poor and hampers their ability to vote, plain and simple.
    Its even more bogus that things like a student ID isnt allowed.

    Im pretty sure you need to be clothed to go out in public anyways, or you risk public indecency. So that analogy fails.
    Oklahoma allows you to use the voter ID card that you get when you register to vote, which I think is a smart solution. I also think student IDs should be included as well.

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    I'm not saying it never happens, but on the grand scale it basically never happens.

    Using Silver's 2% as a marginal standard of the effect on the electorate, examples of voter fraud that could be addressed by IDs is molecular. We're talking less than 2% of that 2%. The fact that you can list people's names here is pretty telling. The fact that there have only been 50 convictions out of the millions of votes cast in Texas "in recent years" is actually pretty comforting and lower than I would have thought. Of course, that's just "the tip of the ice burg" for that author.

    I guess I'm just looking at the scale of this thing and taking the utilitarian approach: greatest good, for the greatest number of people. The funny thing is that this kind of fraud has got to be the stupidest way to go about it. If anyone is paying for it, they are wasting their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    I'm still waiting for evidence of rampant voter fraud.
    Given how difficult it would be to find and prosecute those who defraud the system, it doesn't surprise me that finding evidence is difficult. However, lack of evidence doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and clearly there are relatively easy opportunities for fraud to occur if you don't check the IDs of those who vote.

    I'm all for letting everyone vote that has the right to do so, but I'm also for reducing opportunities for fraud in the way we do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    Oklahoma allows you to use the voter ID card that you get when you register to vote, which I think is a smart solution. I also think student IDs should be included as well.
    And Okla's law is a reasonable one, Texas is not.

    And your fraud examples seem to include local elections. I believe most of theses state voter ID laws are only in regards to national elections.

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    If you go back a few pages, you'll see I actually criticized Texas' law. I think anything on the I-9 col A or B docs should be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMonk View Post
    Given how difficult it would be to find and prosecute those who defraud the system, it doesn't surprise me that finding evidence is difficult. However, lack of evidence doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and clearly there are relatively easy opportunities for fraud to occur if you don't check the IDs of those who vote.

    I'm all for letting everyone vote that has the right to do so, but I'm also for reducing opportunities for fraud in the way we do it.
    IDs will stop criminals from voting just like IDs would stop criminals from having guns. Or not. Which way is it, MM?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    And considering how difficult it is to identify and catch folks committing fraud, the absence of more evidence is not the evidence of absence.
    This could be the fundamental difference between constituents who are in favor of these laws and those that oppose them.

    It seems the consensus on both sides is that there is a lack of evidence of a widespread fraud problem. Those in favor of voter ID laws see a lack of evidence as a justification for the laws. Those against them see a lack of evidence as justification to not enact new laws.

    One side basically intuitively believes a problem must exist and it needs legislation to fix. The other is asking for proof of a problem that needs legislation to fix before they can support that legislation. That is, they want to base legislation on evidence as opposed to a lack of evidence.

    I'm just saying that anything that may prevent a registered voter from voting presents a risk to the ideals of democracy, and in order for me to feel comfortable with that risk, I'd rather see justification for that risk than rely on a lack of evidence to justify it.

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    I'm not going to bother organizing all this below. Just do your own search to read the full stories. Only point I have with some here is that when you claim there's no or nearly no voter fraud, please tell us how you are sure of that when it's so hard to determine when you aren't checking IDs? Tired of that lame line of disingeuous reasoning.

    Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud ...
    townhall.com/columnists/.../2012/11/.../page/full
    Townhall.com
    Nov 11, 2012 - In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern ...
    The Three Pillars of Election Fraud | U. S. Politics
    beforeitsnews.com/u-s.../the-three-pillars-of-election-fraud-2475268.htm...
    6 hours ago - In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern ...
    Ohio counties w Registration exceeding 100% of the voting age ...

    www.democraticunderground.com/.../duboard....
    Democratic Underground
    100+ posts - ‎52 authors
    The way I determined the number of eligible Persons of Voting Age (PAV) was to go to ... In at least 8 cases, these registration levels exceeded 120% of the PAV's. .... for Union County and came up with 95 to 98 percent of adults registered to vote ..... Ohio "two other counties have discovered possible cases of people voting ...
    VOTER ID is vital for a fair and honest election. - Lifestyle ...

    patch.com/wisconsin/...wi/we-need-voter-id-in-wisconsin
    Patch Media
    Apr 25, 2014 - In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern ...
    A Petition For Redress: Investigate Election Fraud · Recount ...

    recountthevote.com/
    Nov 13, 2012 - In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    IDs will stop criminals from voting just like IDs would stop criminals from having guns. Or not. Which way is it, MM?
    You seem to think that these two activities are the same type of thing. If so, do you advocate removing the requirement to have a license with photo ID to carry a firearm? A license that requires a substantial investment of time and money to obtain?

    Assuming that you don't advocate that, you should understand the following to realize the error of your argument:
    1. You can't sell your vote to another voter (not legally anyway)
    2. I can purchase guns (or knives, machetes, crossbows, blow-dart guns, slingshots, or any of a vast number of items, weapons or otherwise) without any form of ID because my identification when purchasing these items is irrelevant and the act of purchasing them doesn't harm anyone. However, if someone were to impersonate you and vote in your name, it does do you harm, and harms the integrity of the voting process as well.

    I sincerely hope that clears things up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDP View Post
    It seems the consensus on both sides is that there is a lack of evidence of a widespread fraud problem. Those in favor of voter ID laws see a lack of evidence as a justification for the laws. Those against them see a lack of evidence as justification to not enact new laws.

    One side basically intuitively believes a problem must exist and it needs legislation to fix. The other is asking for proof of a problem that needs legislation to fix before they can support that legislation. That is, they want to base legislation on evidence as opposed to a lack of evidence.
    I think you misunderstand the side that you are disagreeing with. You don't have to wait until the horses have bolted before closing the barn doors. I do not view the lack of evidence as justification for voter ID laws. The justification for the law is knowing how human nature and politics works. We all know politics can be dirty business. There are groups (both conservative and liberal) who will say and/or do nearly anything to help their candidate win an election. It is naive to assume that these types of people would not go as far as to engage in identification-related fraud activities, especially considering how easily it can be accomplished. These activities may not be so prevalent that they attract much attention from investigators, or perhaps it's so difficult to prove guilt that nothing ever comes of it. Regardless, this sort of activity could be a deciding factor in determining the outcome of close races.

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