Oklahoma in the ranks

[Bunty]

Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.

Did the governor ever hold a special day of prayer for other industry besides for the oil fields? I doubt it. The sorry situation is how most Oklahomans want it. They are happy to live in a less than mediocre state in so many ways. Probably the majority seldom venture outside the state to see how the rest of the world lives for the better. I think Oklahoma will simply continue sorta playing catch up but always staying behind. Voters approving of alcohol law reform and medical marijuana in 2018 would represent a little more than sorta catching up, though. But far too slow in coming.

[jerrywall]

Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.

Oklahoma has about two thousand manufacturing establishments with well over 100k employed. We export over 400 million dollars worth of civilian aircraft and parts world wide. Swine exports is over 100 million itself. Pumps, heat exchangers, electric conductors, and such represent hundreds of millions as well. My wife works for a company that builds out control systems for locomotives and construction equipment. They are one of Halliburton's main suppliers, and are one of the top R&D firms in this area in the world.

Yes, we have lots of oil and gas industry. Oklahoma is an energy state. But we're also one of the largest producers and exporters of solar and wind based energy. We have a huge nanotechnology R&D industry in Oklahoma as well, and while many of them are energy based, many of them are not and are focused in the areas of healthcare, and general manufacturing.

Basically, this entire post of wrong.

It's OK to be critical when the state does stuff wrong, but I've never seen you post a single positive thing about Oklahoma. And the misinformation you spout is even worse.

[jerrywall]

Did the governor ever hold a special day of prayer for other industry besides for the oil fields.

Did any other industry or groups request it? You know there is a simple process for requesting a proclamation and assuming they're not intentionally trollish or offensive they are almost always approved, done by the staff, and the governor just rubber stamps them, right? This prayer day has been done for years and years and is always requested by the Christian Oil Alliance. I think it's silly, but this perception that the governor just "decided" to have a prayer day for oil is asinine.

[chuck5815]

Oklahoma IS a welfare State. Take away government jobs at the Federal and State level and the majority of high paying jobs outside of oil and gas which is an has been struggling and the Oklahoma economy would be near third world. No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries. We get 100 jobs for a water company and hurray. What is the point of having all these great CofC best city for... Accolades when they don't translate to more and better jobs, which drive demand which drives growth etc. Simple truth Oklahoma is a follower State not an innovative one, about 5-10 years behind almost any other. Republican politics in the State has not proven to generate the economic stimulus it proports to stimulate.

Why would you take away government jobs in your hypothetical? I can understand hypotheticals where consolidation in the oil and gas business results in Devon or Continental being bought out by some larger player in Houston or Dallas. That's somewhat realistic. But is the government going to simply shut down? There's just no basis in reality for using that proposition to devalue the state.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Oklahoma is 8th fattest state with a 33.9% obesity rate.

http://www.news9.com/story/36022331/...cording-to-cdc

[jerrywall]

Oklahoma is 8th fattest state with a 33.9% obesity rate.

http://www.news9.com/story/36022331/...cording-to-cdc

Ww also are surprisingly high on the ranks for smoking compared to Texas. Our health rankings in those two metrics affect us a lot in general QOL metrics.

[jerrywall]

On a side note, while I don't argue with the validity of this list, I hate that they are still using BMI to calculate obesity rates. BMI is a terrible metric (and doesn't work for different body types).

[dcsooner]

Oklahoma has about two thousand manufacturing establishments with well over 100k employed. We export over 400 million dollars worth of civilian aircraft and parts world wide. Swine exports is over 100 million itself. Pumps, heat exchangers, electric conductors, and such represent hundreds of millions as well. My wife works for a company that builds out control systems for locomotives and construction equipment. They are one of Halliburton's main suppliers, and are one of the top R&D firms in this area in the world.

Yes, we have lots of oil and gas industry. Oklahoma is an energy state. But we're also one of the largest producers and exporters of solar and wind based energy. We have a huge nanotechnology R&D industry in Oklahoma as well, and while many of them are energy based, many of them are not and are focused in the areas of healthcare, and general manufacturing.

Basically, this entire post of wrong.

It's OK to be critical when the state does stuff wrong, but I've never seen you post a single positive thing about Oklahoma. And the misinformation you spout is even worse.

Oklahoma Employment Outlook 2016

Overview
The three supersectors expected to account for most of the state’s job growth are educational & health services, professional & business services, and leisure & hospitality. When combined, these three supersectors will account for nearly 60 percent of all job growth over the 2006-to-2016 projection period.
The educational & health services supersector is expected to add more than 48,000 jobs during the projection period. Educational services will produce 18,580 new jobs, while health services will add 29,690 jobs. The health services growth will be spread across all four of its component industries (ambulatory health care services, hospitals, nursing & residential care facilities, and social assistance). This growth is the result of the gradually aging population and its increased future health care needs coupled with advances in new technologies that increase life expectancies.
Professional & business services is projected to gain over 34,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. This large gain will result in a job growth rate of more than 19 percent, the highest among all supersectors. The professional, scientific & technical services and administrative & support
services industries will provide all of the supersector’s growth during the period, as management of companies & enterprises sheds jobs. The catalyst for this growth will be business demand for sophisticated computer networks, technological solutions to current business challenges, and a variety of employment services to address complex business issues.
Leisure & hospitality is expected to grow by more than 21,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. The accommodation & food services industries will provide more than four out of every five jobs gained during the projection period, driven almost entirely by food services & drinking places. Amusement, gambling & recreation industries will contribute much of the rest of the growth seen in leisure & hospitality. The continued growth of tribal casinos and resorts is expected to be a driving force for this supersector.
Although trade, transportation & utilities is expected to add the fourth largest total of new jobs, the supersector’s growth rate is below the state’s projected overall job growth rate of 10.33 percent. Movement in retail trade will provide more than half of the growth, driven mostly by

Oklahoma Employment Outlook 2016
INDUSTRY PROJECTIONS
job gains in general merchandise stores. Wholesale trade industries will contribute 3,900 jobs of the growth, with transportation & warehousing making up the remaining 3,800 jobs. The factor that will most affect this supersector is technological innovation, such as electronic data exchange to help track product information, radio frequency identification that streamlines distribution, and electronic commerce options.
Government employment is expected to grow by more than 15,000 jobs between 2006 and 2016. Local government, excluding education & hospitals is expected to account for 12,550 new jobs during the period. Growth in state government and local government will be driven by public education demands and the increasing need to augment community, health and protective services once provided to a greater degree by the federal government.
Construction will expand at a faster rate than the overall job market, growing by 11,130 jobs, or 15.81 percent, between 2006 and 2016. Although all of its industries will expand over the period, the specialty trade contractors industry is expected to provide a majority of the job growth. Construction projects expected to help drive growth include nursing homes, medical treatment facilities and schools.
Financial activities is expected to expand by nearly 9 percent with a gain of 7,470 jobs for the period. Although all industries are expected to add jobs, credit intermediation & related activities and rental & leasing services will lead the way.
Natural resources & mining will grow by more than 5,600 jobs, or 7.62 percent, during the projection period. Employment gains will be due almost entirely to support activities for mining, an industry that will add more than 4,500 jobs between 2006 and 2016. This growth will be due to Oklahoma’s strong oil and natural gas industry. Nationally, this supersector is expected to shed more than 10,000 jobs over the projection period.
Other services (except government) will add more than 5,500 jobs during the forecast period, a gain of nearly 9 percent. More than 40 percent of the growth will come from the repair & maintenance industry. The only industry losing jobs for the period will be private households.
Information is expected to expand the least between 2006 and 2016, growing by just over 2,000 jobs. Telecommunications, the supersector’s dominant industry, is expected to contribute more than 1,800 jobs.

The only supersector expected to lose jobs over the forecast period is manufacturing, which will contract by 730 jobs between 2006 and 2016. However, this small loss is not representative of the changes taking place within the manufacturing supersector. While a large number of jobs will be lost from industries such as printing & related support activities, other industries, like food manufacturing, will post solid growth between 2006 and 2016. The overall outlook for manufacturing is continuing demand- driven growth coupled with productivity-led employment declines.


I stand by my post:No significant manufacturing, R&D or knowledge based industries.

[jerrywall]

Because you know nothing. Even your own quoted text contradicts you. And says nothing about R&D, even though it's a huge growth industry.

I mean, what do you think "The professional, scientific & technical services and administrative & support services industries will provide all of the supersector’s growth during the period, as management of companies & enterprises sheds jobs. The catalyst for this growth will be business demand for sophisticated computer networks, technological solutions to current business challenges, and a variety of employment services to address complex business issues." means?

Losing 700 manufacturing jobs out of 100k plus in ten years? Nothing. That's market changes.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Here is the BLS report on Oklahoma for 2017: https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.ok.htm

[Plutonic Panda]

Hooray I can actually post something I'm proud to post! Haha

http://amp.koco.com/article/study-ra...idges/11662007

[Bellaboo]

IIRC. the county bridge fix got a jump start from the thousand or so steel girders that were re-purposed from the Crosstown. This probably pushed us to the top.

[Bunty]

Hooray I can actually post something I'm proud to post! Haha

http://amp.koco.com/article/study-ra...idges/11662007

Such stories should not be published. Legislators might use it to justify cutting spending on roads and bridges.

[Plutonic Panda]

Though I'm sure that was more tongue in cheek than anything, I do agree and I wonder how our road surfaces or other areas of infrastructure have fared while our bridges have been fixed.

[KayneMo]

This report is from last summer: https://www.cbre.us/people-and-offic...oring-tech-ta0

Detailed figures: http://news.theregistrysf.com/wp-con...16-FIGURES.pdf

'Oklahoma City Ranks Among Top Markets for Growth of Highly Skilled Tech Workers'

OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.

OKC produced 3,526 tech degrees from 2010-14, and added 7,010 tech jobs from 2011-15, resulting in a tech brain gain of 3,484 (placing 15th overall on brain gain).

[chuck5815]

This report is from last summer: https://www.cbre.us/people-and-offic...oring-tech-ta0

Detailed figures: http://news.theregistrysf.com/wp-con...16-FIGURES.pdf

'Oklahoma City Ranks Among Top Markets for Growth of Highly Skilled Tech Workers'

OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.

OKC produced 3,526 tech degrees from 2010-14, and added 7,010 tech jobs from 2011-15, resulting in a tech brain gain of 3,484 (placing 15th overall on brain gain).

Where is dcsooner at? Paging dcsooner to the white courtesy phone.

[Plutonic Panda]

That is great to see!

[bchris02]

OKC's tech talent labor pool grew 59% from 2010-15, placing 3rd among small markets (tech labor pool <50,000) behind Charlotte and Nashville, and 5th overall behind Charlotte, Nashville, SF Bay Area, and Baltimore.

I'm surprised to see Charlotte on this list. Their tech market was abysmal in 2012. Good to see OKC on a list like this. It's definitely a sign of progress.

[Ross MacLochness]

Idk if this is the right place to post this, but I just returned from a couple of trips. Both places I went, I met people who had recently visited OKC. One twentysomething guy from Boston (which is an incredible city) told me he was blown away by OKC and loved it. He said he wanted to come back for a longer vacation. I heard similar things from two other people. It's a really nice thing to hear.

P.s. I was in Denver recently also. Denver has some awesome places and things to do but I'm proud to live in OKC. We may be 'behind' other cities, but we take for granted what we do have which is nice, clean sidewalks, narrow(ish), TWO WAY streets downtown, a variety of unique areas within walking distance, less horrible parking garages and surface lots (very surprising), and a lack of ****ty ****ty ****ty post modern architecture (thank god we avoided such tragedy). Anyway, I felt like I have been negative lately so I wanted to put it out there that while we make lots of mistakes, we are generally going in the right direction and we have a lot to be proud of.

[5alive]

[dcsooner]

Where is dcsooner at? Paging dcsooner to the white courtesy phone.

Hey, I just saw this posting. This is a great news story that reflects the fact that the educational deficit in OKC is being closed and that I am very excited to hear about. I have nothing to say but great job OKC and keep it up.

[Plutonic Panda]

Hate to post negative stuff but here's more:

http://www.normantranscript.com/news...6ca3ef5ea.html

[Bunty]

Hate to post negative stuff but here's more:

http://www.normantranscript.com/news...6ca3ef5ea.html

People who are unhappy about living in Oklahoma should move to a better state, such as Colorado. If you're miserable from making min. wage of $7.25 an hour, you'll get a raise of up to at least $9.30 by moving there. Just avoid the high cost area of Denver.

[Plutonic Panda]

One day Oklahoma is great for business and the next:

https://kfor.com/2019/07/10/cnbc-okl...-for-business/

[dcsooner]

One day Oklahoma is great for business and the next:

https://kfor.com/2019/07/10/cnbc-okl...-for-business/

Meant to post this article earlier, but I knew I would get hammered.