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    Marc Jones seems like a good dude. I hope he continues to lead Homeland to new heights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Marc Jones seems like a good dude. I hope he continues to lead Homeland to new heights.
    Yes, that was my impression as well when I interviewed him.

    We all love to bash Homeland but he and his new staff deserve a chance and this store on Classen is a great start.

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    I was in there Tuesday night and was really impressed. I've known Cindy who works behind the deli counter for years going back to her days at The Boulevard Cafeteria. She was just raving about the remodel. This has been a great morale booster for the employees as well. She also told us to be on the lookout for the News 4 piece. Thanks for posting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCOKC View Post
    I was in there Tuesday night and was really impressed. I've known Cindy who works behind the deli counter for years going back to her days at The Boulevard Cafeteria. She was just raving about the remodel. This has been a great morale booster for the employees as well. She also told us to be on the lookout for the News 4 piece. Thanks for posting that.
    The working conditions there were horrible.

    The old entrance opened right on the checkout lanes and very near the deli. In the winters it was terribly cold and miserable. The doors didn't even work correctly.

    And of course the entire place was dirty-looking and lousy. I used the restroom there once (way back in the stock area) and it was scary back there.

    I'm really impressed with what they've done at this location. Far above and beyond what I expected.

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    ^^^^^^^^^
    Not above what I expected...
    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    I'm not too concerned about it happening. They have already located a new manager there specifically to re-make the product selection. I have talked with him several times. If there is something you'd like for them to carry he is very good about adding it to inventory. There is a pretty comprehensive plan to eliminate a lot of their duplicated items that are typically bought these days at places like Walgreens or Target instead. For instance, he pointed down the aisles that house a massive selection of things like paper goods and also feminine products and pointed out there is no reason in the world for them to have as much as they currently do of those things, as people nowadays prefer to buy that stuff at other stores anyway. They will then use the freed-up space for better selection of things like organics and items that will appeal to the changing demographic in the area.

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    That post is a year old BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The only other nicer store they have at May & Britton seems to do pretty well.

    I wonder how they are doing since Uptown Grocers opened. UG also got incentives from The Village.
    And it's only nice because it was Albertson's nice store before. Excited for the future of Homeland's management though. More good things to come, I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    That post is a year old BTW
    You should just change your username to Carnac already.

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    ^^^^^^^
    Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeEffect View Post
    And it's only nice because it was Albertson's nice store before. Excited for the future of Homeland's management though. More good things to come, I hope.
    Was it an Albertson's before? I thought the Skagg's/Alpha Beta/Osco/Jewel/Albertson's/Whatever was actually on the NW corner of May/Britton, not where the current Homeland is. But I could be wrong, I was away from OKC for a dozen years and it might've moved during that time, then gone under...

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    Anybody have any idea when Western Ave northbound between 18th and 23rd is supposed to re-open? It's been closed for weeks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Was it an Albertson's before? I thought the Skagg's/Alpha Beta/Osco/Jewel/Albertson's/Whatever was actually on the NW corner of May/Britton, not where the current Homeland is. But I could be wrong, I was away from OKC for a dozen years and it might've moved during that time, then gone under...
    Yes, it was an Albertson's but I believe you are correct, the original Albertson's was on the NW corner. They closed it and reopened across the street. Somebody please back me up so I don't think I'm senile but I do vaguely remember that it was on the NW corner and then they moved.
    C. T.

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    Yeah, there was no way I'd forget eating the Texas donuts (as big as a baby's head!) there at the original location on Sundays before church, many moons ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchandler View Post
    Yes, it was an Albertson's but I believe you are correct, the original Albertson's was on the NW corner. They closed it and reopened across the street. Somebody please back me up so I don't think I'm senile but I do vaguely remember that it was on the NW corner and then they moved.
    C. T.
    You're quite correct. The reason given for the move to the SW corner from the NW was that it moved the store from The Village into OKC, and The Village had raised their sales tax. Dunno if that was true or not, though, and too lazy to research it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchandler View Post
    Yes, it was an Albertson's but I believe you are correct, the original Albertson's was on the NW corner. They closed it and reopened across the street. Somebody please back me up so I don't think I'm senile but I do vaguely remember that it was on the NW corner and then they moved.
    C. T.
    You're 100% correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kyle View Post
    You're quite correct. The reason given for the move to the SW corner from the NW was that it moved the store from The Village into OKC, and The Village had raised their sales tax. Dunno if that was true or not, though, and too lazy to research it.
    Jim, I can't remember if that was the reason or not, but the tax rate in The Village was actually lower than OKC until just before the announcement. The Village had just raised their rate to compensate for losing Wal-Mart to OKC, however, this article makes it sound like Albertsons was just looking to update their location at the time and had worked with The Village to try to find a viable location before moving across Britton: https://newsok.com/article/2745915/a...to-tax-revenue

    This article also makes it sound like it was mostly driven by a desire for a new building: https://newsok.com/article/1909179/a...of-the-village

    This one shows how devastating these relocation were to tax collections in The Village (even after a tax hike): https://newsok.com/article/2857452/t...take-nose-dive

    All of this underscores why the incentive game is played in OKC and pretty much everywhere else these days. The dependence that our municipalities have on sales tax collections (based on state laws) creates a situation where neighboring cities become predatory and feel they have to cough up cash to keep tax revenue streams within their boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    You're 100% correct
    That I'm senile?
    Thanks friend.
    C. T.
    p.s. Just kidding.

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    ^^^^^^
    Haha read it however you want to, C.T.!

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    As I said, I was too lazy to research the reasons for the move. Probably part of my reply was driven by memories of the perambulating Walmart on NW Highway, which went from its Rockwell location now occupied by Hobby Lobby, to the MacArthur location that's now a pizza parlor, to the present location between Rockwell and Council -- playing the incentive game like the traditional renters who move each time the rent comes due, despite the expense of moving such a large establishment.

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    My wife and I were just in the Classen homeland and were very impressed. It felt like every aisle she found something she usually buys somewhere else that she can now get here. We used to make special trips to Trader Joes, Target, and Sprouts when we live very close to this homeland. We used to only stop in here if we needed something quick and were relatively sure homeland would have it. Now she wants to start doing our regular grocery shopping here. Homeland has done a complete 180 with this place

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    Observation: Homeland models one long-neglected store, still neglecting (if not outright abandoning) others, and gets heaps of praise plus free publicity in the paper and the news.

    7-Eleven, however, builds several new stores, aiming to make them as bright and clean as their old ones haven't been for years, and barely anyone notices.

    I wonder if the expansion of OnCue, and the introduction of other service-oriented convenience stores, have gotten it to the point that there's really nothing 7-Eleven could do at this point to improve their image. I also wonder if the introduction of grocery store competition might have the same effect on Homeland.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking this remodel in any way. You won't find a single person who won't agree this should have been done long ago. I'm just wondering exactly where we are in the timeline of things. If 7-Eleven has crossed the point of no return, how close is Homeland to that point? The service at the Cornwell location used to be great, but it's taken a nosedive. To the point where a couple months ago I said screw this, I'll go to the one at I-40 and Reno, only to rediscover why I stopped going there in the first place. It's been months since I've been at Cornwell and DIDN'T have something ring up wrong. You have to watch the screen like a hawk. This morning around 10am all the BOGO offers were not ringing up correctly, with the excuse that every Sunday at 9am this happens until someone gets around to rebooting the computer. That's ridiculous! Mustang doesn't even warrant a Homeland, apparently, it got rebranded to a Cashsaver. Homeland prices, plus 10%, what a deal!

    What I'm saying is this remodel is a "great start", not "mission accomplished", and Homeland better see it the same way...or else they can ask 7-Eleven how that worked out for them.

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    ^

    Homeland already had a very nice store at May & Britton and pretty much everything else was inherited.

    And, they have a new CEO who in his first year launched this extensive remodel and not due to some big new competitors who was kicking their tails.


    7/11 built every single one of their horrendous stores. And there are more than 100 in Central Oklahoma.


    On a more personal level, the Homeland people have always promptly returned my calls and have been very helpful. No one from 7 Eleven has ever returned any of my calls, and I've made a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stile99 View Post
    Observation: Homeland models one long-neglected store, still neglecting (if not outright abandoning) others, and gets heaps of praise plus free publicity in the paper and the news.
    What other neglected Homelands are left in the metro? All of the nasty ones that I can think of that were open when I moved back here in 2012 have closed. Even some of the better stores that were converted from Albertson's have closed. Right now the chain seems to be down to a few stores and is trying to do the best they can with what they have. What will be interesting is to see how the new liquor laws affect Homeland. It might make them profitable enough that they go back into expansion mode. If I was CEO of Homeland, I would really be thinking about how to offer a superior beer/wine section than what Wal-Mart will be able to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    What other neglected Homelands are left in the metro? All of the nasty ones that I can think of that were open when I moved back here in 2012 have closed. Even some of the better stores that were converted from Albertson's have closed. Right now the chain seems to be down to a few stores and is trying to do the best they can with what they have. What will be interesting is to see how the new liquor laws affect Homeland. It might make them profitable enough that they go back into expansion mode. If I was CEO of Homeland, I would really be thinking about how to offer a superior beer/wine section than what Wal-Mart will be able to offer.
    I think the second half of the statement, "if not outright abandoning them", addresses this. Also, I listed two examples in Yukon. One of which was, in fact, a bright and shiny new store but has gone downhill.

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    I think we are comparing apples and oranges with grocery stores and gas stations. Most people have a regular grocery store they go to at predictable intervals. However, most people will just get gas at whatever station is close and whenever they need it. People see a new or remodeled grocery store in their neighborhood and begin to use that one as their primary; whereas a person will get gas anywhere along their commute or when they are just driving around town. I certainly have preferences to which gas stations I use, but I don't treat them the same as a grocer.

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