TopGolf

[Pete]

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Yes, much windier this time around.

Also, I just scraped my car and there was more than an inch of solid ice. In fact, I don't have a scraper so I ran my defroster full blast for over 20 minutes (!) and the ice didn't budge. Had to break down and improvise with a carpenter's square, which actually worked very well.

[Urbanized]

Welcome to Oklahoma!

[AP]

Welcome to Oklahoma!

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[shawnw]

There was a report on Channel 9. Someone can find a link I'm sure. It was an interview with the Dallas (Top Golf HQ) communications director who said they factored in Oklahoma weather into the design, that our facility was different than their others because of this...

Report said closed at least 3 weeks.

[Richard at Remax]

Yeah once that ice started to expand and filled in those holes in the nets it basically just turned into a big sail.

My friend who is a platinum member says they gave him a month free. So between that and losing out on the new years party there they are going to lose a lot of business over the next few weeks.

[Patrick]

They should've used steel fencing material like is used on chain link fences.

[OkiePoke]

They should've used steel fencing material like is used on chain link fences.

If the holes were filled with ice, it wouldn't have helped. It would have pulled the poles down regardless. Plus, that would probably damage the balls.

[Tundra]

They should've used steel fencing material like is used on chain link fences.

The net didn't fail, the poles collapsed under the weight of the Nets and ice....

[Zorba]

Did the engineers not take this into consideration

My guess, as an engineer, is they looked into ice loads, wind loads and combined ice/wind loads. I am not sure of the code on this, but generally you wouldn't look at max ice + max wind together, although we were no where near max wind speeds or ice loads.

My complete guess, is that they did not factor the closing of the net holes with ice and used the same drag load for the wind only and wind+ice condition. I saw the nets the next day, and they looked pretty solid, so there would be a massive drag increase.

I also really doubt the 3 weeks. I watched them assemble the netting originally and it took longer than 3 weeks with perfect weather and all of the materials onsite. I doubt anyone has those poles laying around in stock so they will likely have to be fabricated. I also only saw maybe one pole that is not a total loss, 6 were buckled and the rest were yielded to the south. A redesigned and increase in loads may also require their footers to be redesigned. So you have to have time for new engineering, new drawings, fabrication, city permits, demo of old net structure, assembly of new net. My money would be 6-8 weeks at least. Assuming they don't run into any regulatory or insurance issues.

[Zorba]

The net didn't fail, the poles collapsed under the weight of the Nets and ice....

Some net panels on the south side did fail. I assumed they landed in the neighborhood to the south. I'd like to know if they failed intact or if they got shredded. If a panel liberated intact, full of ice, it could be fairly dangerous when it landed.

[catch22]

Do you really need a permit to reinstall what was previously approved?

[Bill Robertson]

I would be surprised if there is a code for something as unique as 60? foot tall golf ball netting. BTW, I'm in Tulsa today and we drove right by the Top Golf on the river that's about 75% complete. Poles and netting are up so they probably aren't going to make any modifications.

[Tundra]

Do you really need a permit to reinstall what was previously approved?

Hello you're suppose to pull a permit when you put a fence at your house, so yes new permits will be required.

[Zorba]

Do you really need a permit to reinstall what was previously approved?

Yes, they will have to get a demo permit to remove the old structure and a construction permit to build the new structure. Of course, the approval process will be much shorter than when they were originally proposing the facility. If the city building department is worth its salt, though, they will require new engineering considering the old engineering failed. Which really, everyone involved, including the engineers, should want new engineering.

I would be surprised if there is a code for something as unique as 60? foot tall golf ball netting. BTW, I'm in Tulsa today and we drove right by the Top Golf on the river that's about 75% complete. Poles and netting are up so they probably aren't going to make any modifications.

I am not sure what code it would fall under, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was something specific to sports netting/fencing. It may fall under the code for lighting poles, or a more general code.

They could make in situ modifications to the Tulsa facility if deemed necessary. For example, they could weld on a new flange on each side of the pole, or some more targeted reinforcements, They could even add some guy wires.

[Zorba]

Some more pictures

[skanaly]

I would be surprised if there is a code for something as unique as 60? foot tall golf ball netting. BTW, I'm in Tulsa today and we drove right by the Top Golf on the river that's about 75% complete. Poles and netting are up so they probably aren't going to make any modifications.

That's not a TopGolf, its something very similar called FlyingTee

[Roger S]

....they are going to lose a lot of business over the next few weeks.

Heck... They've made enough money off me and my friends to replace those nets and poles a couple of times over already.

[Bill Robertson]

That's not a TopGolf, its something very similar called FlyingTee

OK. But ice and wind will have the same result.

[jn1780]

They had all the damaged poles taken down and I saw new poles laying on the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if they just diverted the poles from another location that was under construction. If they make modifications to the netting system, its going to be after they reopen.

[JRod1980]

I had several of their bartenders stop by FlashBack last week and they said they were being paid for 2 weeks worth, while the nets were repaired, but it looks like this repair might actually take 4 weeks if not more, weather permitting.

[Pete]

Little hard to see but they are getting close on having the nets reinstalled:

[Tundra]

It's coming up on 4 weeks and it looks like they still have quite a bit of work yet to go.

[Pete]

Hard to see but the nets are all in the process of going up.

I bet they'll be done very soon.

[Tundra]

Hard to see but the nets are all in the process of going up.

I bet they'll be done very soon.

Do they erect the poles as they put the nets up, cause from this picture it looks like half the poles aren't even up yet.

[Zorba]

When the originally put them up, they put up all the poles first, then the nets. IIRC, they spent at least a couple of weeks putting up the nets.

I bet they have at least 3 more weeks.