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    Could John Roberts be Mr. Chief Justice before even being confirmed Associate Justice? This is from an email I got from someone.


    Source: Roberts Still May Replace Rehnquist
    Judge John Roberts was George Bush’s first choice to replace ailing Supreme Court Justice Chief William Rehnquist.

    But Rehnquist’s stubborn desire to stay on the court – and some hardball politics in Washington, may have forced Bush’s hand to nominate Roberts to replace retiring Associate Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.

    A top Washington insider says the vetting process for picking a new chief justice and other potential nominations had begun long ago.

    And the prevailing wisdom was that Rehnquist, in ill health, would retire first, or at the same time O’Connor announced her resignation.

    At the top of the list to replace Rehnquist was his former clerk, John Roberts.

    The Bush administration loved the selection. Roberts is a solid conservative who has impeccable legal credentials and no trail of controversy. He is also young and as Chief Justice could dominate the high court for decades.

    If both Rehnquist’s position and O’Connor’s had opened, Bush could have also nominated a more moderate associate justice to balance Roberts. The favorite for that slot was Bush’s long-time friend and current Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales.

    But the veteran Washington player Rehnquist is believed to have forced Bush’s hand.

    By stubbornly declining to resign, Rehnquist forced Bush to pick a conservative to the court. Had Bush gone with a moderate like Gonzales, he most assuredly would have faced the wrath of socially conservative voters in the 2006 midterm election.

    Most pundits acknowledge that the President was re-elected primarily because of the efforts of social conservatives, who came to the polls in overwhelming numbers this past November.

    Exit polls had indicated that moral issues ranked as the most important factor influencing votes, and pre-election Gallup polling revealed that 25% of the President's support came from self-defined single-issue pro-life voters.

    Our Washington insider says that as of a week ago, Bush was still strongly leaning toward selecting Gonzalez.

    But Karl Rove’s office placed a number of calls to several leading evangelical and Catholic leaders who said such a choice would be opposed by Bush’s core voters.

    The source also says that Roberts, once confirmed as associate justice, is still the favorite to replace Rehnquist.

    With an expected confirmation under his belt, Roberts would easily sail through for a second confirmation process to replace Rehnquist, but that would again leave open the “swing” vote O’Connor created by retiring.

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    I think Bush will nominate Scalia when Renquist leaves (dies). If Roberts is the originalist that many think he is, it doesn't make any difference. Of course they(we) thought the same of O'Connor, Kennedy, etc.

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    Well, nothing says that a jurist has to serve time as an Associate Justice before ascending to the Chief slot; it could happen for Roberts.

    If the President is going to pick one of the current eight, I'd prefer Thomas to Scalia.

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    pdjr Guest

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    Just give me a female. Roberts gets confirmed. Rehnquist abdicates. Bush nominates a man. Just give me one female.

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    Edith Jones

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    Long live Rehnquist (at least until after the next election).

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    pdjr Guest

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    Were I President, I'd love be to able to appoint more than one justice. Roberts is a good choice. If President Bush has to appoint another during his tenure, I'd most prefer a woman, but would be pleased with a man as classically moderate as O'Connor.

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    I would waive the requirement that the members be attorneys and choose Rush Limbaugh... Or maybe Judge Judy Sheinland (Judge Judy). Maybe even Joe Wapner.

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    pdjr Guest

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    Many have been appointed (or elevated to chief) without having been judges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdjr
    Many have been appointed (or elevated to chief) without having been judges.
    I do not think any Chief Justice has been appointed outside the court in my lifetime, however.

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    pdjr Guest

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    Chief Justice Hughes was way before your time. He practiced in the teens and twenties.

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    Glenn Beck. You would have to force him though.

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    Rush Limbaugh?
    Joe Wapner?
    Glen Beck?

    Is that the best we can come up with?
    If that's the case, this country is indeed in worse shape than I previously thought.

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    Well, I said Edith Jones but I got nothing from it.

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    glenn beck
    rush limbaugh
    sean hannity
    those would be my picks. john roberts does seem a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromdust
    glenn beck
    rush limbaugh
    sean hannity
    those would be my picks. john roberts does seem a good choice.

    Are people really serious about Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck?

    Let's take a brief look at just one of the candidates mentioned. Following are examples of Rush Limbaugh's idea of raising the level of discourse, employing civility in his comments on the issues of the day:

    …One day after President Bush called on interest groups to "tone down the heated rhetoric" over the Supreme Court vacancy, Limbaugh -- whom Bush described as a "good friend" in an August 2004 appearance on Limbaugh's show -- referred to Supreme Court justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer as "socialist wackos." Limbaugh also told Democrats to "bury yourselves in your rat hole" and repeatedly instructed them to "shut up." From the July 5 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
    I'm tired of these Democrats acting like they won the election. Somebody needs to stand up and say, When you win the election, you pick the nominees. Until then, shut up! Just shut up! Just go away! Bury yourselves in your rat holes and don't come out until you win an election. When you win an election, you can put all these socialist wackos, like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, all over the court, but until then, SHUT UP! You are really irritating me.
    …Limbaugh repeatedly called Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Obama Osama and Osama Obama during the July 11 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show. In criticizing a July 10 speech by Obama in Eatonville, Florida, Limbaugh added Osama to the senator's name seven times.
    And you've got now another memo from Stan Greenberg and James Carville and Bob Shrum suggesting that liberals are in trouble, the Democrats are in trouble, and Obama Osama Obama was in Florida over the weekend stumping for [Sen.] Bill Nelson [D-FL], and he said Democrats have got trouble. What did he say here? He said, "Democrats, at times, have lost their way. We're trying to decide what our core values are."

    Of course, my friends, I know, I know. The left has core values. They're just not ours. But I mean, if Obama Osama -- here's the story. It's in the Orlando Sentinel. "Obama Osama Leads Star Power or Lends Star Power to Nelson. A Democratic U.S. senator campaigns for his colleague in a town hall forum in Eatonville. About 500 people rose to their feet in a standing 'O' worthy of a rock star, as U.S. Sen. Barack Obama Osama hit the stage."

    So here's Osama Obama now. One speech at a convention and he's living off it. He's a rookie. He's a rookie senator.

    Speaking of Ben [sic] Nelson, I still have this story of Osama Obama on the front of the stack and it moved to the back. Obama Osama came down from his perch in Illinois to stump for Sen. Nelson here in Florida…
    …Limbaugh downplayed the death toll from the July 7 London bombings. On that afternoon's broadcast of his radio show, Limbaugh told listeners,
    It's like I said -- 40 people dead, 150 seriously wounded, 1,000 wounded out of over 1 million people in that transit tube. It's not a successful terrorist attack, folks.
    … As part of a new advertising campaign; for the U.S. detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, Limbaugh suggested touting the facility as Club G'itmo, the Muslim resort, a tropical paradise down there where Muslim extremists and terrorist wannabes can get together for rest and relaxation. On his website, he is even selling Club G'itmo T-shirts that read I Got My Free Koran and Prayer Rug at G'itmo, Your Tropical Retreat from the Stress of Jihad, My Mullah went to Club G'itmo and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt, and What Happens in G'itmo Stays in G'itmo.

    From the June 14 broadcast of the nationally syndicated Rush Limbaugh Show:
    It's time to use a little absurdity here. Time to be absurd to illustrate some. We need to shut down this Gitmo prison -- well, don't shut it down, we just need to start an advertising campaign. We need to call it, Gitmo, the Muslim resort. Any resort that treated people like this would have ads all over The New York Times trying to get people to come down and visit for some R&R, for some rest and relaxation.

    Any resort promotion would brag about its amenities that cater to the needs of its guests. Anything better than diet, Qurans, prayer rugs, I mean where else can Muslims go in the world to find everything they need? There's no better place than Gitmo. Club G'itmo, the Muslim resort. The infidels have Club Med, why don't the believers get their own Club G'itmo? It sounds like we've put one together for them. It's a one-of-a-kind resort on the west coast of Cuba overlooking the bay. Every visitor, every check-in at no charge gets a new Quran, a new prayer rug, Muslim chefs, Muslim dietary laws, five prayer sessions a day.

    Club G'itmo has been endorsed by Amnesty International. It's a tropical paradise down there where Muslim extremists and terrorist wannabes can get together for rest and relaxation. I mean, that's the way to portray this, for crying out loud.

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    Rush has a radio show where he makes outlandish statements that amuse people that agree with him and agrivate people that don't. Both groups of people discuss his show and tune in the next one to hear his new comments, this boost his ratings and his paycheck. Humm, maybe this guy knows what he's doing after all.

    Of course this doesn't make him Supreme Court material, but the mere mention of it is guaranteed to send liberals up in flames, which can provide hours of enjoyment to die hard conservatives. Scribe, I think people are having fun pulling your leg.

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    We, of course know the mention of Rush and the gang for Supreme Court is just fun.

    being serious abut it, I would want the most die hard conservative known to man. Clarence Thomas as Chief Justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workman45
    Rush has a radio show where he makes outlandish statements that amuse people that agree with him and agrivate people that don't. Both groups of people discuss his show and tune in the next one to hear his new comments, this boost his ratings and his paycheck. Humm, maybe this guy knows what he's doing after all.

    Of course this doesn't make him Supreme Court material, but the mere mention of it is guaranteed to send liberals up in flames, which can provide hours of enjoyment to die hard conservatives. Scribe, I think people are having fun pulling your leg.
    With the level of general ignorance that pervades much of this country, it's becoming harder to tell apart the serious comments from the tongue-in-cheek comments.

    As a recovering ditto-holic, I'm quite aware of Rush's style and substance (or lack thereof). It was his increasingly vitriolic rhetoric that compelled me to reevaluate taking anything he says seriously. What scares me is how many people do take him seriously — swallowing his gross misrepresentations as gospel. For too many, Rush is their primary source of information — and that truly is dangerous.

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