Deep Deuce SpringHill Suites

[Pete]

NE 1st & Russel Perry
owner=Atul Patel
cost=$4.8 million
6 floors
sq. feet=77,538
acerage=.6
115 rooms, small indoor pool

Information & Latest News

Milestones

• 5/21/13 - $4.8 million building permit

Links

Application to Downtown Design Review Committee
Gallery

[metro]

Exciting news and infill for Deep Deuce.

[Anonymous.]

All the BT hotels are nice. Now if we can get more residential conversions or new builds...

[betts]

That's about $50 a square foot for construction. Is that what we would expect for a nicer hotel? I would think that being in Deep Deuce, the level of construction required would be at a minimum that required of the Hampton Inn and Hilton Garden Inn.

[CuatrodeMayo]

That should be at least $150/SF. No way it is being built for $50/SF.

[Spartan]

Well luckily the forum has enough time to self-implode at least three times between now and 7/18 so bring on those renderings!

[Teo9969]

Is there a chance this permit is only one of several?

[catch22]

I don't have a lot of confidence this will be a structure wildly supported by this forum.

[catch22]

Those are my concerns as well. Who has oversight of this? Same as the lincoln/reno proposal? I imagine any resistance on site layout will be met with the variance for that project.

Edit: I see it's DDRC, who had oversight for the Reno/Lincoln, BUDC? I understand these are not the same developers.

[catch22]

aLoft was $152.28/sq. foot (Although some of that includes the structured parking garage)
This will be $61.91/sq. foot.

[Spartan]

The only reason I'm worried is because of the developer's past projects and the current estimated project cost of this one.

This developer has never done a downtown project before though. Below is a picture of Richard McKown's past projects before getting involved downtown:

[betts]

Are the DDRC meetings open to the public?

[Pete]

Yes

[dankrutka]

Well, if the price is correct and this hotel goes through then it would really speak poorly to the future of the area. One awful hotel has already gone though. Another and there's a precedence set - it's okay to build crap* in the heart of OKC's core.

*It would only be crap in relation to its surroundings. I'm sure the design would be acceptable outside the urban core.

[UnclePete]

What did Russell M Perry Avenue used to be named?

[BoulderSooner]

Well, if the price is correct and this hotel goes through then it would really speak poorly to the future of the area. One awful hotel has already gone though. Another and there's a precedence set - it's okay to build crap* in the heart of OKC's core.

*It would only be crap in relation to its surroundings. I'm sure the design would be acceptable outside the urban core.

different area and different design board with a different set of standards

[dankrutka]

different area and different design board with a different set of standards

Same urban core. These projects are pretty close to each other. I'm not talking about the micro decisions of a board, but how these types of decisions affect the core as a whole.

[BDP]

These projects are pretty close to each other.

Be careful. Boulder has argued that properties as close as 100' have no relation to each other.

No doubt this developer will be inspired by Staybridge and argue it's a difficult development. And if they chose to do so, they will be armed with plenty of recent ammunition to justify heavy compromises that disregard the area. For example, it's a whole two blocks from bricktown and bordered by an empty lot and surface parking. It's their land and surly they can't be expected to invest in improving the area and raising the bar of development in the area. Their rooms will always be full and that's all that matters, right?

[warreng88]

I feel like ideally this hotel should be close to the corner of Russell M Perry and NE 1st with parking to the west. Is there a ROW issue with this space like the Staybridge Suites or just limited to the north of the RR tracks?

[soonerguru]

Exciting news and infill for Deep Deuce.

This plot should be residential, not hotel. This project needs to be flagged. I suspect it's not going to improve the area. If I were selling quarter million dollar townhomes at The Hill I would be paying attention.

[Just the facts]

I have no problem with a hotel, it just needs to be built to same design and style of the surrounding area - at a minimum. In fact, if I only had a 2 bedroom home I would want a hotel as close as possible so family could visit and stay close by.

[Rover]

Hotel...yes. Motel...no. Cheap hotel or motel....no. This construction cost indicates a bottom end business that will be poorly run and cheaply maintained. This is why others will avoid investing close by as it has the opportunity to drive down property values. For that money there will be no investment in aesthetics, no enhancements, virtually no landscaping/sidewalk enhancement, etc. It will be cheap to rent and for the most part draw guests who have or are willing to spend little on quality entertainment, food, etc.

At what point do we have an acceptable bar to meet and require going over rather than around it?

[Just the facts]

Any word on branding: Motel 6, Suburban Inn, Roadway, Microtel?

[warreng88]

Any word on branding: Motel 6, Suburban Inn, Roadway, Microtel?

Come on Super 8!

[Just the facts]

I am still thinking it is a typo. There isn't much land there to have a surface parking lot and if they plan on using mostly on-street or space somewhere else that will reduce cost. I'll wait till I see the proposal before condemning it.