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**Plutonic Panda** · 01-15-2013, 12:58 AM

One thing I really think should be done though....Is FIRST build a regional HSR and build expansive light-rail system throughout..... Tulsa, OKC, Little Rock, DFW, Houston, ect... THEN you can accurately describe true traffic counts and build the highways accordingly. I think a light-rail would be used a lot more than people would think in OKC.

**catch22** · 01-15-2013, 01:11 AM

Also, you are saying to allow the rail traffic to define demand. Demand is extremely fluid and will take the easiest method.

If rail is easy, people will take rail. If driving and parking is easy, people will drive. But, you can't have both, because if one is more easy to use than the other by a wide margin, the other will not be used.

**Just the facts** · 01-16-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by catch22

Also, you are saying to allow the rail traffic to define demand. Demand is extremely fluid and will take the easiest method.

If rail is easy, people will take rail. If driving and parking is easy, people will drive. But, you can't have both, because if one is more easy to use than the other by a wide margin, the other will not be used.

Several cities now prohibit any new parking except for residential if rail based mass transit is available. The best way to reduce congestion is to not provide a place to park. Of course, this requires alternatives to be available.