Lots of talk about Gundy leaving OSU

[ou48A]

Since this topic is now being reported on by several source I thought it needs its own thread


https://twitter.com/DaveSittler


Gundy got some bad advice if he's playing a game of chicken with Pickens and Holder.

[ou48A]

Not too many coaches have ever won a game of chicken with a billionaire.

[adaniel]

I think Gundy stays and this turns out to be little more than a passive aggressive mind game played between Gundy, Holder and Boone.

He would be an idiot to leave to go to a program in disarray like Tennessee and Arkie.

[MonkeesFan]

I think Gundy stays and this turns out to be little more than a passive aggressive mind game played between Gundy, Holder and Boone.

He would be an idiot to leave to go to a program in disarray like Tennessee and Arkie.

But Les was smart to leave Oklahoma State and won a championship at Louisana State....

[Spartan]

Sounds like the annual turmoil up in Stillwater..it's just Gundy and Holder fighting again

[Bostonfan]

You don't interview for high profile jobs if you aren't ready to take them. I could be wrong, but I think he's gone.

[zookeeper]

I know that T. Boone Pickens has donated a lot of money. Does that buy him a position of authority at a state institution? It would be a travesty if Pickens had a single word to say about anything regarding who's coaching at Oklahoma State. I'm not being naive, I'm looking past the nonsense that has become college football. If he's bought and paid for the OSU athletic department, then give him some title and hold him accountable to the state regents and the people of the state.

[ou48A]

The exact details, we don’t know, but whenever you’re dealing with huge ego’s such as Pickens who acts like an franchise owner and who is a very old man, who must feel that his time is running out and has a known history of not caring very much about how his actions seriously impact tens of thousands, you can bet that Gundy has had his fill of T. Boone.

Going back many years many others have hated the man.
All this is bound to impact OSU recruiting to some extent?

[ou48A]

Tennessee Volunteers Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page


Former National Coach of the Year in the running


Meet a candidate: Mike Gundy

[ou48A]

Traber puts the odds of Gundy leaving at 60 /40

[Spartan]

Traber puts the odds of Gundy leaving at 60 /40

Now you're really just salivating at the prospect of Gundy leaving Stillwater. I think you're a little obsessed

[ou48A]

It’s the biggest sports story of the day in Oklahoma!

[kevinpate]

If he wants to stay, get out of his way a bit. He seems to have an interesting program. If he wants to go, wish him well, throw him a fare thee well event and announce a replacement.

Either way, get it done and go forward. After all, he's well past 40 now. No need for any childish silliness in the process, no need at all.

[Spartan]

It’s the biggest sports story of the day in Oklahoma!

You're not even hiding your glee

[Just the facts]

I like Gundy, but he isn't exactly building a power house. Don't let a few wins over OU cloud your judgement.

2005– 4–7 (1–7)
2006– 7–6 (3–5) — Independence Bowl vs. Alabama 34–31 (W)
2007– 7–6 (4–4) — Insight Bowl vs. Indiana 49–33 (W)
2008– 9–4 (5–3) — Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon 31–42 (L)
2009– 9–4 (6–2) — Cotton Bowl Classic vs. Ole Miss 21–7 (L)
2010– 11–2 (6–2) — Alamo Bowl vs. Arizona 36–10 (W)
2011– 12–1 (8–1)- Fiesta Bowl vs. Stanford 41-38 (W)
2012- 7-5 (5-4) - Heart of Dallas Bowl vs. Purdue

[ou48A]

I don’t know how reliable this source is …… but

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Vols&src=hash

Jayson Swain‏@JaysonSwain
If Mike Gundy wants the job, I hear it's his. #Vols

[catcherinthewry]

don't let one win over ou cloud your judgement.

fify

[OKCisOK4me]

If he takes the job and he says "this is my New York Yankees job", he needs to be blackballed from oSu forever. Hell, I'll take Todd Monken as our new head coach. I think that guy could handle the job and do things about living in the Sooner State!

[Spartan]

I don’t know how reliable this source is …… but

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Vols&src=hash

Jayson Swain‏@JaysonSwain
If Mike Gundy wants the job, I hear it's his. #Vols

Duh. That's how it was with Florida and TAMU last year.

[SoonerDave]

I like Gundy, but he isn't exactly building a power house. Don't let a few wins over OU cloud your judgement.

2005– 4–7 (1–7)
2006– 7–6 (3–5) — Independence Bowl vs. Alabama 34–31 (W)
2007– 7–6 (4–4) — Insight Bowl vs. Indiana 49–33 (W)
2008– 9–4 (5–3) — Holiday Bowl vs. Oregon 31–42 (L)
2009– 9–4 (6–2) — Cotton Bowl Classic vs. Ole Miss 21–7 (L)
2010– 11–2 (6–2) — Alamo Bowl vs. Arizona 36–10 (W)
2011– 12–1 (8–1)- Fiesta Bowl vs. Stanford 41-38 (W)
2012- 7-5 (5-4) - Heart of Dallas Bowl vs. Purdue

It isn't about building a "powerhouse," though. Its about doing what he's done with the available resources and the location in which he's done it.

There are very few states the size of Oklahoma that have two successful collegiate programs. For decades, OSU has played second fiddle to OU in recruits, wins, titles, the works. Gundy, with the help of some great new facilities from T. Boone, has turned that around. OU now has to fight for some of those high-profile recruits. OSU is no longer seen as a conference also-ran. To suggest Gundy has little to no part in that just doesn't make sense.

I have absolutely no insight at all into whether he leaves or goes. But it makes perfect sense to me that any other athletic director in need of a coach would look at what he's done, where he's done it, and think "Geez, if that guy can do that there...wonder if he can do that here...." Tennessee is in a peculiarly ideal position for precisely that kind of gamble. Not saying by any means its a done deal, no secret headlines or sources here, but anyone thinking its purely posturing I think is fooling himself.

[Just the facts]

I'll admit, Gundy is not the problem at OSU. They need to be playing a weaker non-conference schudule and their tough conference games need to come sooner in the season. If OSU/OU played the first game of the season OSU would have won all of them over the last 5 years. OU doesn't even start playing football until the 3rd or 4th game of the season and OSU seems to fold down the stretch.

[Spartan]

I think Gundy has a reputation in college football of using other jobs as leverage with T. Boone whenever they are having a fight, so I am surprised SEC schools take him very seriously as a candidate. That's not to say he's not an A-list coach, I just don't think it translates in marketable ways for other programs.

Supposedly he and Boone/Holder are just fighting over scheduling, which Gundy currently has no say in. Gundy is upset about all of these marquee games with Miss State, FSU, and I guess OSU-Arizona was starting to feel like a conference game. OSU has just one out of conference game in Stillwater next year, with the rest in Texas (one in Alamodome, other at Relient Stadium).

[ddavidson8]

What's the Heart of Dallas Bowl?

[Just the facts]

Gundy is upset about all of these marquee games with Miss State, FSU, and I guess OSU-Arizona was starting to feel like a conference game. OSU has just one out of conference game in Stillwater next year, with the rest in Texas (one in Alamodome, other at Relient Stadium).

Compare that to Tennessee's 2013 OOC schedule.

Home games against Austin Peay, Western Kentucky, and South Alabama with a single road game against Oregon (3rd game of season - so plenty of time to recover in the polls from that loss).

Or Arkansas

Home games against Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns and Southern Miss Golden Eagles a game in Little Rock vs Samford Bulldogs and a road game against Rutgers.

Conclusion: The BIG XII needs to wake up with their scheduling.

[SoonerDave]

I think Gundy has a reputation in college football of using other jobs as leverage with T. Boone whenever they are having a fight, so I am surprised SEC schools take him very seriously as a candidate. That's not to say he's not an A-list coach, I just don't think it translates in marketable ways for other programs.

Supposedly he and Boone/Holder are just fighting over scheduling, which Gundy currently has no say in. Gundy is upset about all of these marquee games with Miss State, FSU, and I guess OSU-Arizona was starting to feel like a conference game. OSU has just one out of conference game in Stillwater next year, with the rest in Texas (one in Alamodome, other at Relient Stadium).

Very valid point. However, I that's why I think the (alleged) extended meeting between Gundy and the Hart (Tenn. AD) is significant. I think the latter is seeing if Gundy's serious, and the longer that meeting went, the more persuaded he became that there was legitimate interest. It's one thing for an AD to make the trip, but its another entirely to stay at a guys house purportedly for several hours and have nothing to discuss other than the weather.

See, there's another risk here on the Gundy side, which does fall into your point - if you play games with other schools, eventually they stop listening. If this is just a power play by Gundy, and he really doesn't intend to leave, he will have done precisely as you've said; the other schools will simply stop taking him seriously, and he won't have an out. He'll be stuck at the wrong end of Pickens' and Holder's phone for his entire tenure at OSU, without options. If he really senses that he wants out, chances are high he'll never have a better opportunity.