Will Rogers World Airport

[Plutonic Panda]

Where are you going to find the money is what I would like to know. HSR isn't going to be cheap. The new airport isn't going to be cheap - well over a couple billion would be my guess. However, how are you going to force airlines to not fly to OKC or TUL? What about the Air National Guard bases? The FAA center? The counter maintenance centers in OKC? The FTC and JPATS? I would invite you to revisit the history of Love Field in Dallas and how well it worked telling airlines to move out to the a field in the middle of (then) nowhere and see how it goes

You can revisit history all you want, but DFW now offers non-stop to cities in China and Japan, that is pretty damn good.

You are completely right about the distance issue, which is something I really didn't think about when I first asked about a possible OKC-Tulsa msa, which I no longer support.

[venture]

You can revisit history all you want, but DFW now offers non-stop to cities in China and Japan, that is pretty damn good.

You are completely right about the distance issue, which is something I really didn't think about when I first asked about a possible OKC-Tulsa msa, which I no longer support.

DFW is also home to a large hub so the level of service is inflated some. I'm sure we could dig up O&D data on the international routes, but really that is going to take us off topic even more.

[catch22]

The cost to do it would completely outweigh any gained efficiency from combining operations.

Sorry if being realistic is "glass half empty".

[Mel]

Tulsa having to share an airport with OKC? Them's fighting words.

[catch22]

Some more shots of the progress on the Cluster Fudge that will be the new checked baggage system. This will be a terrible system. It's too large for the current terminal building. It barely fits. As I mentioned, we will only be able to get one tug with two carts through here now. We used to be able to get 4-5, and industry standard for most modern airports supports a turning radius of 6 carts. Ridiculous.

[bombermwc]

catch22, has anyone voiced your team's concerns with the airport management?

[Plutonic Panda]

Power outage planned Saturday night at Will Rogers World Airport | News OK

[catch22]

Old news. This is the 3rd Saturday in a row. United borrowed Gate 24 from a delta for the last flight on the two previous outages.

[catch22]

The airport is about to get new signage; this includes the roadways leading to the terminal, the terminal and concourse themselves, and parking areas.

Here are a few screenshots:








The full presentation can be viewed at the following link:

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/view.as...fileid=2450711


Personally, I love it. The current signage sucks both from a visual standpoint and a functional standpoint. This has a modern look, while fitting in architecturally. This will also include more signs than are present now, which will help visitors and people who are unfamiliar with the layout.

[Plutonic Panda]

The airport is about to get new signage; this includes the roadways leading to the terminal, the terminal and concourse themselves, and parking areas.

Here are a few screenshots:








The full presentation can be viewed at the following link:

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/view.as...fileid=2450711


Personally, I love it. The current signage sucks both from a visual standpoint and a functional standpoint. This has a modern look, while fitting in architecturally. This will also include more signs than are present now, which will help visitors and people who are unfamiliar with the layout.

has this been built yet?

[Josh Ryan]

has this been built yet?

The first phase of the wayfinding changes are going to be roadway and parking signage. Right now the expected timeline is that you will start seeing new signs in about 18 months. The timeline for terminal building signage will be closely aligned with the terminal expansion project.

[bombermwc]

Can't say that I had any problems with the internal signs, but glad to see the external ones changing. The old ones always reminded me of the 80s or something. I mean it's not O'Hare, the layout doesn't take 5 minutes to figure out.

[catch22]

I get asked all the time for help getting around. People from out of town don't automatically know where to go and the signage is pretty vague. It doesn't help that the secured area exits out to the departures level and not the arrivals level. I see people waiting all the time on the upper deck thinking that is where they are to be picked up. Only to see them frustratedly talking on the phone and realize they are on the upper deck.

[OUman]

This actually brings it in line with what I've seen at other airports around the country, namely ATL, IAH and HOU to name a few.

[bluedogok]

Much better than the white on blue reflective film road signs that they use in Louisville (SDF), we tried to get those changed but they won't be until some other projects are completed.

[Plutonic Panda]

Now perhaps I missed it, but any idea when they will install these signs? I noticed they were just listed as conceptual so I didn't know how close this was to actually happening.

[bchris02]

Slightly off-topic, but how does everyone think the fact that airports will no longer accept Oklahoma drivers licenses as of 2016 will affect WRWA? Is it possible more people may fly in and out of DFW and simply drive into OKC rather than use the local airport?

[BrettM2]

Slightly off-topic, but how does everyone think the fact that airports will no longer accept Oklahoma drivers licenses as of 2016 will affect WRWA? Is it possible more people may fly in and out of DFW and simply drive into OKC rather than use the local airport?

Unless I misread the article, it's the actual licenses that are the problem. Driving to DFW won't help if you have an Oklahoma DL. I'll be able to use WRWA just fine with my Texas DL.

[ljbab728]

Unless I misread the article, it's the actual licenses that are the problem. Driving to DFW won't help if you have an Oklahoma DL. I'll be able to use WRWA just fine with my Texas DL.

That is absolutely correct. Driving to DFW won't change a thing.

[mugofbeer]

Slightly off-topic, but how does everyone think the fact that airports will no longer accept Oklahoma drivers licenses as of 2016 will affect WRWA? Is it possible more people may fly in and out of DFW and simply drive into OKC rather than use the local airport?

Can you explain this a little?

[tfvc.org]

Can you explain this a little?

OK Driver's Licenses Not Secure; Will No Longer Be Accepted In C - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

OKLAHOMA CITY - If you rely on your Oklahoma Driver's license to get into a secure area like a federal building or an airplane, things will be changing. Oklahoma is one of a handful of states that hasn't complied with a federal mandate to make our driver's licenses more secure.
Beginning in 2015, you won't be able to use your Oklahoma Driver's license as an ID to get through security at federal buildings. And in 2016 you won't be able to use it at the airport either.

“You would be required to have a driver's license and a passport or some other federal ID to actually go through the TSA checkpoint or fly on a commercial aircraft,” explained Karen Carney, spokeswoman with the Will Rogers World Airport.

That's because back in 2005, Congress passed the REAL ID Act that would make it harder for terrorists to get fake ID's. But in 2007, Oklahoma passed a law forbidding compliance with the act.

[shawnw]

Who is the signage vendor?

[tfvc.org]

My passport is going to expire in April, I think I am going to go ahead and purchase the book and card and use the card for domestic flights or anything Federal. Then again I also have my FAA PIV card I could use as well. There was an extensive vetting process that I had to go through to get that thing.

[ljbab728]

My passport is going to expire in April, I think I am going to go ahead and purchase the book and card and use the card for domestic flights or anything Federal. Then again I also have my FAA PIV card I could use as well. There was an extensive vetting process that I had to go through to get that thing.

Why would you want to pay for both when the passport will work for any destination?

[tfvc.org]

Why would you want to pay for both when the passport will work for any destination?

The card will not work for international flights, only land border crossings but will fit in my wallet to show as ID for domestic flights.