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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Good grief!

    From Fox Nation
    Taxpayers spent $1.4 billion dollars on everything from staffing, housing,
    flying and entertaining President Obama and his family last year, according
    to the author of a new book on taxpayer-funded presidential perks.

    In comparison, British taxpayers spent just $57.8 million on the royal family.

    Author Robert Keith Gray writes in “Presidential Perks Gone Royal” that
    Obama isn’t the only president to have taken advantage of the expensive
    trappings of his office. But the amount of money spent on the first family,
    he argues, has risen tremendously under the Obama administration and
    needs to be reined in.

    Gray told The Daily Caller that the $1.4 billion spent on the Obama family
    last year is the “total cost of the presidency,” factoring the cost of the
    “biggest staff in history at the highest wages ever,” a 50 percent increase
    in the numbers of appointed czars and an Air Force One “running with the
    frequency of a scheduled air line.”

    “The most concerning thing, I think, is the use of taxpayer funds to
    actually abet his re-election,” Gray, who worked in the Eisenhower
    administration and for other Republican presidents, said in an interview
    with TheDC on Wednesday.

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Reminded me of this much closer to mi casa

    Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin

    Since taking office 21 months ago, Gov. Mary Fallin has spent more than $273,000 on travel paid for by taxpayers, an analysis by The Oklahoman has found. During that time, Fallin logged 56 trips, more than half of which were unrelated to state business.

    Gov. Fallin’s travel is drawing criticism from some who say it undermines her call for austerity in state government. Other critics say she needs to spend more time in Oklahoma tending to state business.

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Good point. What Fallin has spent isn't a drop in the bucket compared to
    Obama.

    Glad you brought that up.

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    More fake outrage.... The total cost for the White House under Republican president George W. Bush in the year 2008 came to a grand total of $1,592,875,254, or $1.6 billion dollars. Using this number we find that the Obama White House spent $0.2 billion less, or a net savings of $200 million dollars.


    The Presidency Costs Taxpayers A Lot, But That’s Not Obama’s Fault

    About That "Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year" Fake Outrage | Opinion - Liberal

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    That certainly explains why they are so intent on another stay. Didnt someone promise he would be a 1 termer if certain conditions werent meant.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhawg View Post
    More fake outrage.... The total cost for the White House under Republican president George W. Bush in the year 2008 came to a grand total of $1,592,875,254, or $1.6 billion dollars. Using this number we find that the Obama White House spent $0.2 billion less, or a net savings of $200 million dollars.


    The Presidency Costs Taxpayers A Lot, But That’s Not Obama’s Fault

    About That "Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year" Fake Outrage | Opinion - Liberal
    Thanks Roahawg for once again countering the right wing malarkey with facts and perspective. SCORE!

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    Thanks Roahawg for once again countering the right wing malarkey with facts
    and perspective. SCORE!
    What you're saying is Obama did about the same in 4 years what W
    did in 8 years. Thanks for bringing those facts into perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    What you're saying is Obama did about the same in 4 years what W
    did in 8 years. Thanks for bringing those facts into perspective.
    That's not what it says....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    What you're saying is Obama did about the same in 4 years what W
    did in 8 years. Thanks for bringing those facts into perspective.
    What part of "in the year 2008" did we miss here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    What you're saying is Obama did about the same in 4 years what W
    did in 8 years. Thanks for bringing those facts into perspective.
    LOL, you kill me you crazy old coot. I like your style man.

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    I like how Fox specifically selected a comparison from another country in order to make it look big. That means someone checked Bush's numbers, realized it made their story ridiculous, then decided to talk about the British royals. Such honesty!

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    LOL, you kill me you crazy old coot. I like your style man.
    But it was the truth. What W spent in 4 years was less than what Obama
    spent in less than 4 years. You see the poster tried to take 8 years of W and
    make it look like he spent more, which he didn't. Maybe math tutoring would
    help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    But it was the truth. What W spent in 4 years was less than what Obama
    spent in less than 4 years. You see the poster tried to take 8 years of W and
    make it look like he spent more, which he didn't. Maybe math tutoring would
    help.
    Let's try this again - "for the Fiscal Year 2008 budget and came up with a figure of $1,592,875,254." About that tutoring....

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    If Great Britain were once again returned to the days of the "British Empire" and were as despised around the globe as they once were (and if they had similar gun laws as we do in the US), they would have to spend much more.

    The sad thing is, we spend most of that money to protect our Presidents from our own citizens, and that's a damned shame considering we spend so much time holding ourselves in such high esteem as a society.

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by RoboNerd View Post
    What part of "in the year 2008" did we miss here?
    I stand corrected. However, Obama's term isn't over, yet. With @$4.2 million
    per month spent does anyone believe he won't surpass W's? By the way, I'm
    not a fan of W.

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    It will likely average out about the same..... yet another non-issue.

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDave View Post
    It will likely average out about the same... yet another non-issue.
    No, it's an issue. Approximately $4.2 million per month is spent on Obama's
    administration. One more month is going eat the so-called savings of $2
    million and surpass W by some $10 million.

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    It is not an issue when every President's travel, security, etc expenses are roughly the same. Once again, you are blinded by your dislike of President Obama to the point you cannot accept the reality that this President has not done anything any other modern era POTUS has done regarding this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    No, it's an issue. Approximately $4.2 million per month is spent on Obama's
    administration. One more month is going eat the so-called savings of $2
    million and surpass W by some $10 million.
    0.2 billion is not 2 million

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by HewenttoJared View Post
    0.2 billion is not 2 million
    It is to some lol Not to mention the fiscal year started over about two weeks ago.

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    Prunepicker Guest

    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDave View Post
    ... Once again, you are blinded by your dislike of President
    Obama...
    I don't dislike Obama. That's absurd.

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    Default Re: Taxpayers Spent $1.4 Billion on Obama Family Last Year

    OK - I did slightly misstate. You strongly dislike President Obama's policies to such a degree you are willing to use anything and everything regardless of cost to see him lose an election.

    Still does not change the fact that $1.4 billion is not out of line with what it costs to provide transportation, security, living accommodations, etc for modern era Presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDave View Post
    OK - I did slightly misstate. You strongly dislike President Obama's policies
    to such a degree you are willing to use anything and everything regardless
    of cost to see him lose an election.
    Correct. His policies have never, ever worked for any president. He's been
    a terrible president. But he's a really nice guy. I'd invite him to a party.
    I really would. Hey, I didn't care for Herbert Walker but I invited him to
    our wedding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prunepicker View Post
    His policies have never, ever worked for any president.
    All right. It's time to call your bluff.

    Elaborate. What policies? What are the specifics? Where is your evidence? What works better? Difficulty: bumper stickers and works-on-paper economic hypothesis are not admissible. Where is the track record to prove it? Why have so many countries that tried privatization rejected it and backtracked? Why are highly "socialist" countries possessive of higher education, health care outcomes, quality of life, business capital availability, and personal incomes? Are these aberrations? If so, how the hell are they coming over here and buying up American industries by the truckload? Even Budweiser isn't American anymore. If Keynesian theory "never, ever worked" then how do you explain the New Deal & Keynesian era and the prosperity it brought until its unravelling in the late 1970s? If Keynesian economics didn't work, then how do you explain the recovery of the mid 1930s to the recession of 1937, immediately after Keynesian economics were rolled back by the Republicans? Why hasn't Social Security bankrupted yet? Under supply-side theory, it should have collapsed by 1960. Why is austerity not working in Greece? Italy? Ireland? Britain? Why will it work here when it has destroyed the European recovery and sent Britain back into recession? Or for that matter, why is Ireland in trouble at all? They were renowned for puny taxation and low regulation overhead. Supply-side and libertarian schools of thought have postulated for decades that this is the magic formula growth. So why has it failed to yield results every time it has been tried? Why is Germany prosperous after it rejected free trade and kept its tariff structure intact? Supply-side economics says that's suicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboNerd View Post
    All right. It's time to call your bluff.
    Elaborate. What policies? What are the specifics? Where is your evidence?
    There is no bluff. His policies didn't work for Wilson, Hoover, fdr, Truman,
    Eisenhower, lbj, Nixon, Ford or Carter.

    The polices are more government. It's always a failure.

    The policies are higher income tax on the rich. True, they won't be enforce
    until 2013, but they have never, ever worked.

    The policies are the so-called stimulus. A total failure.

    The policies are Tarp. Another total failure.

    None of these or anything like them have ever worked.

    Now I'm calling your bluff. Provide one single instance in which
    they worked for any president.

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