Cannabis

[Bunty]

Deadline to register is approaching!! Re-remind friends if they aren't registered they don't have much time left!!

Lol... these opposed to SQ788 file organizational papers?... to what? Issue press releases? OH NO!!!

Haha... I can see a bunch of old, scared, white people sitting around a room: "WHAT DO WE DO??!" "I Got it!" "Let's issue press releases using scare tactics and false information!!".

You know... what they've been doing for decades.

Before smoking was banned at the capitol and elsewhere in public, such people would be doing something like that while smoking cigarettes. Maybe they still are somewhere else.

[OKCRT]

If this is voted down the cartels will be dancing in the streets as they will keep supplying the black market. This coalition or whatever they call themselves might as well invite the drug cartels to join them. It's not like they are going to stop people from using MJ if they get the no vote.

[bchris02]

This is going to really all depend on turnout. The Baptists are currently in overdrive rallying their congregations against it but will they vote? Most people in online communities support it but online communities are typically much farther left than the typical Oklahoma voter. Whoever is the most energized and can turn out their base is who will win this. If you support this, VOTE, because every vote will count.

[bchris02]

https://newsok.com/article/5596593/t...st-medical-pot

"'None of us can sustain the sound minds and healthy bodies God desires us to have when we place ourselves under the controlling influence of something other than His spirit. If this state question passes, we have no ability to stop someone from using marijuana in public places, exposing even children to second-hand marijuana smoke, because it elevates the status of marijuana to a medicine,' Abner said."

[Bunty]

https://newsok.com/article/5596593/t...st-medical-pot

"'None of us can sustain the sound minds and healthy bodies God desires us to have when we place ourselves under the controlling influence of something other than His spirit. If this state question passes, we have no ability to stop someone from using marijuana in public places, exposing even children to second-hand marijuana smoke, because it elevates the status of marijuana to a medicine,' Abner said."

I gather those Oklahoma religious leaders don't have faith in their fellow Christian Republican legislators to gut SQ788 enough to suit them should it pass. If they're really so deeply concerned about the harm due to drugs, they might as well go on a crusade to ban opioids, since those drugs have killed thousands of Oklahomans over the years.

I wouldn't be too surprised if their viewpoints don't represent many Oklahoma Christians. We'll find out in the vote on June 26.

[bchris02]

I gather those Oklahoma religious leaders don't have faith in their fellow Christian Republican legislators to gut SQ788 enough to suit them should it pass. If they're really so deeply concerned about the harm due to drugs, they might as well go on a crusade to ban opioids, since those drugs have killed thousands of Oklahomans over the years.

I wouldn't be too surprised if their viewpoints don't represent many Oklahoma Christians. We'll find out in the vote on June 26.

I don't know. The opposition has been ramping up the religious rhetoric. I'm sure they believe that's what will change people's minds on this. Sell medical marijuana as a threat to the moral fabric of this God-fearing state. In reality it's all about lining the pockets of Big Pharma and the private prison industry. However, the people have to think it's about doing the will of God or otherwise they wouldn't support such injustice.

[TheTravellers]

I don't know. The opposition has been ramping up the religious rhetoric. I'm sure they believe that's what will change people's minds on this. Sell medical marijuana as a threat to the moral fabric of this God-fearing state. In reality it's all about lining the pockets of Big Pharma and the private prison industry. However, the people have to think it's about doing the will of God or otherwise they wouldn't support such injustice.

God-fearing to an insane degree and not educated enough about marijuana - great recipe...

[TheTravellers]

... If they're really so deeply concerned about the harm due to drugs, they might as well go on a crusade to ban opioids, since those drugs have killed thousands of Oklahomans over the years.
...

Or alcohol - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than marijuana.

[Laramie]

Passage will present some challenges. Oklahoma does have several states to examine how their laws & enforcement comes into play.

Marijuana is legal for medical purposes in 29 states https://www.vox.com/cards/marijuana-...ical-marijuana

[Bunty]

I think the Oklahoma Christian Right started losing political influence beginning not very long after they succeeded in not getting lotteries legalized from the 1990s. The first cracks in support began around 1999 when they couldn't get "The Tin Drum" and Penthouse banned. Further erosion appeared around 2004 when legalizing lotteries and casinos were approved at the polls, followed by legalizing tattoo application. Most recently alcohol laws were modernized. The vote on it wasn't even close. So I think SQ788 will pass. It's just a question by how much. The greater margin it passes, hopefully the less the state legislature will feel like gutting it.

One may want to go further back in time to trace when the Oklahoma Christian Right first began losing influence, such as far back as 1959 when alcohol was legalized or 1984 when liquor by the drink was finally legalized after a number of failed tries at the polls.

[Bunty]

Latest poll by Soonerpoll indicates SQ788 will still pass. Poll is 57.5% yes to 29.6% no. That's not bad, since it reflects what the demographics is expected to be on election day with the majority of voters expected to be over 55. Hopefully, greater than expected number of younger people will turn out and put it over 60%.

https://soonerpoll.com/medicinal-mar...since-january/

“Support is high for SQ788 among liberals, moderates and Democrats,” said Bill Shapard, CEO of SoonerPoll.com, “but anytime you can get a third or more of the majority — like Republicans and conservatives — to vote with you, you can get any state question passed in Oklahoma, and this is what we are seeing in these results.”

Demographic data detailed here: https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie...359513f993.pdf

[mugofbeer]

I agree completely. Weed is the primary financial source for the cartels. If possession and cultivation were legal, this would be the single most damaging blow against the cartels we could make. The border violence is out of control, and funding for it would dry up if you could simply buy a joint at seven eleven. The funny thing I don't understand is that people think that by keeping it illegal, it helps reduce supply. Not true, supply is plenty, and plenty of people use the plant already. I'd have to pull some sources, but it was released the other day that the states that have medical laws have seen a 10% decrease in traffic fatalities. Imagine that... All the technology we have put into making cars safer, roads better, and all of the click or ticket ad campaigns, and traffic fatalities rose every year except 2010 or 2011 (further research needed to find source), and states where this "drug" can bought legally, and suddenly fewer people die in car wrecks.

Colorado has had fully legalized pot for a few years now yet cartels and organized crime still attempts to get into the local market. I've outlined stories before on here recently that organizations are renting homes - even in well-to-do neighborhoods - and using them as grow houses. Medical pot use, unless strictly controlled by the state, and dispensed only through pharmacies, will become a sham. As occurred in other states, a few doctors will be responsible for issuing the vast majority of licenses - primarily to 20 and 30-something males.

My suggestion is to not dick around with it and call this what it is as an effort to legalize pot. If that's what the people want, then so be it. Its not been a major problem here so far (except for the pot houses) Just be aware of all the side effects and the constant few who always try to push the legal envelope. Also be aware of the advancements in pot science to greatly enhance it's potency....cocaine anyone?

Think about it. This isn't just a matter of a legal avenue for you to get high, it's a legal avenue for you to alter your brain, for your children to alter their brains, to fill the air with the smell of weed and skunk (see prior posts I've made), to create a whole industry based on getting stoned and a whole new type of public service announcements (AKA: Meg the Budtender, the earthly but cute mother who calmly sips her herbal tea/coffee and reminds you that kids always find a way to find things you've hidden - hide your pot from your kids responsibly).

Look beyond having a bag and lighting up a few to the overall effect on the communities you live in.

[mugofbeer]

Oh, one other thing, yes, the use of alcahol has declined a bit since pot legalization in Colorado. Some are making the arguement, however, that in Colrado, anyway, it may more be a function of the simultaneous legalization and the opening of our vast light rail system along with the acceptance of ride-shares like Uber and Lyft. I know in talking to co-workers, there is much more casual lighting up and a lot less happy hours

[Bunty]

The dicking around comes from the refusal of the Feds to take marijuana off schedule. It shouldn't be on any drug schedule list any more so than alcohol and tobacco. Prohibition of marijuana is a money maker for the DEA. So they will never support descheduling marijuana until forced to, probably from an act of Congress.

[Bunty]

I‘M A CONSERVATIVE, CHRISTIAN, HOME SCHOOLING MOM AND I SUPPORT LEGALIZATION OF CANNABIS.
http://www.soonerpolitics.org/editor...s-legalization

[securityinfo]

Time to get your yard signs out!

[tyeomans]

Time to get your yard signs out!

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

[Bunty]

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

I don't know, but Edmond is having a forum on SQ788 on Tuesday. Maybe someone there will have some or know where to get them.

The pro side will be well represented. Pro side Bud Scott and August Rivera have been in a brief debate on TV before. Scott did a good job countering Rivera.

[securityinfo]

My neighbors had them; I enquired, they provided. Perhaps someone on the 788 Facebook page could help? Also, I'll do a little checking and see if I can find a "source" to "score" some signs...

[Bunty]

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

[bchris02]

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

I haven't seen anybody out collecting signatures for recreational marijuana. Any idea where to sign?

[pw405]

Meanwhile, Green the Vote revealed on Sunday how many signatures it has for its two petitions.

For medical marijuana: 27,000-30,000
For rec marijuana: 28,000-31,000

Figures are based on exact totals in office, plus an estimate of signatures out there but not yet in.

So they're not very far from being on track. If they are able to step up the pace some and keep it up, they can get the required 124,000 signatures for both petitions by deadline August 8.

Oh, awesome. I've been looking for more info on these. Glad to hear they're on pace!

Here's a map of STATEWIDE locations where one can sign the petitions for SQ 796 and 797.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...3813034665&z=8

SHARE THE S**T OUT OF THIS!!

[LocoAko]

I haven't listened yet (will on my flight tomorrow), but this could be an interesting listen for anyone interested. https://nondoc.com/2018/06/04/bud-scott-sq-788-podcast/

[Bunty]

Are there yard signs for purchase anywhere? I would buy one!

Yard signs available at SQ788 office in OKC at 1120 NW 51st St., Oklahoma City, open 10 to 5 M-F. Also yard signs should be available from someone at Edmond forum this evening, June 5.

[tyeomans]

Yard signs available at SQ788 office in OKC at 1120 NW 51st St., Oklahoma City, open 10 to 5 M-F. Also yard signs should be available from someone at Edmond forum this evening, June 5.

Thank you! Just went and picked mine up!