Cannabis

[BigSully]

Other tribes may have different stances on it.

I believe the Creek Nation recently recognized this, and passed legislation approving medical exemption. So the tribes are definitely seeing this, and making changes.

https://www.mcn-nsn.gov/muscogee-cre...ana-exemption/

[sooner88]

The big problem right now, and the reason it needs to be legal federally, is that marijuana businesses have substantial disadvantages now because of federal laws. Banks will not do business with you because you are technically committing a federal crime, so that means no bank account (and everything done in cash) and more importantly, no loans.

Also, because you are technically committing a federal crime, you get taxed out the ass. For most businesses, if you sell $100 worth of product but spend $25 on overhead costs, you get taxed on the $75 in profit you made. For marijuana businesses, since that $25 is spent on "illegal activity", you can't write it off, and you get taxed on the full $100. (There are probably some nuances there I'm skating over but that's the summary that my CPA gave me.)



The Chickasaws refuse to recognize SQ 788, since it's state law, and thus their position is that it doesn't apply to them. You can still get arrested for possession of marijuana by tribal police if you visit one of their casinos with it, even if you have a medical card.

Other tribes may have different stances on it.

It is up to the Bank to take deposits related to Marijuana-related businesses. There are several Banks in OKC that are accepting deposits, but it's not cheap. Fees are pretty comparable with the Banks participating, but are charging around ~$1,000/month plus ~50-75 bps on the balance monthly.

[jerrywall]

I came across this article over the weekend and thought folks might enjoy it.

How One of the Reddest States Became the Nation’s Hottest Weed Market
Oklahoma entered the world of legal cannabis late, but its hands-off approach launched a boom and a new nickname: ‘Toke-lahoma.’


This article talks about it, but I've also seen it elsewhere mentioned that Oklahoma has crossed the $1 Billion mark in sales of cannabis.

[Bill Robertson]

And I see new dispensaries open almost weekly. Though this one might have been there a while I just noticed Green Dog Dispensary right next to Red Dog Saloon. Get your pot and have a beer!!!

[jerrywall]

And I see new dispensaries open almost weekly. Though this one might have been there a while I just noticed Green Dog Dispensary right next to Red Dog Saloon. Get your pot and have a beer!!!

Interesting. I wonder if Red Dog is still a smoking establishment. If so, they could be one stop shop. Don't forget their "burgers with a view".

[Bill Robertson]

Interesting. I wonder if Red Dog is still a smoking establishment. If so, they could be one stop shop. Don't forget their "burgers with a view".

Very good point.

[Plutonic Panda]

A new bill was passed by the house to decriminalize marijuana nationwide among other things.

Opponents, mostly Republicans, called the bill a hollow political gesture and criticized Democrats for bringing it up at a time when thousands of Americans are dying from the coronavirus pandemic.

https://kfor.com/news/us-house-passe...federal-level/

This crap pisses me off. The republicans have had years to address this issue while no pandemic was going on yet all of the sudden they are unable to do two or more things at once now. Their pathetic attempt at using COVID as an excuse to keep marijuana illegal is ridiculous but although ironic given their leader said he wouldn’t support Pelosi's bill that would have enacted coronavirus relief. Sheesh.

https://kfor.com/news/us-house-passe...federal-level/

[HangryHippo]

Just another example of House Republicans being a bunch of dip****s.

[BoulderSooner]

the bill is filled with lots of other things .. that are garbage

a clean bill would likely pass both chambers

[GoGators]

the bill is filled with lots of other things .. that are garbage

a clean bill would likely pass both chambers

What specific portions of the bill are garbage and would need to be removed to get the Senate to approve?

[TheTravellers]

What specific portions of the bill are garbage and would need to be removed to get the Senate to approve?

You know you're not going to get any substantive reply, if you get one at all, right?

[BoulderSooner]

What specific portions of the bill are garbage and would need to be removed to get the Senate to approve?

the house bill sets a 5% federal tax .... it also sets the policy of what that tax is allowed to be spent on ..

the house bill also allows the federal gov from banning anyone with a MJ related felony from working in the industry

it aslo sets a federal regulatory frame work .. .


a clean bill that only takes MJ off the schedule 1 narcotics list and federally decimalizes would have a chance in the senate ..

[Bill Robertson]

Decriminalization would at least be a start. I'd have some hope.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Can this be done via Executive Action? More than half of Americans have access to some form of Cannabis. It should at the very least be decriminalized and off schedule 1.

[jerrywall]

Can this be done via Executive Action? More than half of Americans have access to some form of Cannabis. It should at the very least be decriminalized and off schedule 1.

From everything I've seen the short answer is no. It needs to be address legislatively.

[Plutonic Panda]

https://okcfox.com/news/local/cannab...or-fourth-time

[TheTravellers]

Need to renew our MMJ cards, but our original doctor isn't doing them any longer and didn't know anybody to send us to. Anybody have any recommendations on where to get a recommendation form filled out/signed? Preferably somewhere in the area bounded by NW 63rd - I-235 - Reno - I-44. Thx.

[jerrywall]

Need to renew our MMJ cards, but our original doctor isn't doing them any longer and didn't know anybody to send us to. Anybody have any recommendations on where to get a recommendation form filled out/signed? Preferably somewhere in the area bounded by NW 63rd - I-235 - Reno - I-44. Thx.

Are you willing to do telemed? https://www.15thstreetclinic.com/ does renewals for just $75, and they'll send you the completed form for your application, if you're comfortable submitting the renewal application yourself. The "visit" is a 2 minute phone call.

[timothy.a.owen]

Need to renew our MMJ cards, but our original doctor isn't doing them any longer and didn't know anybody to send us to. Anybody have any recommendations on where to get a recommendation form filled out/signed? Preferably somewhere in the area bounded by NW 63rd - I-235 - Reno - I-44. Thx.

Just do it online! Super freaking quick and cheap! I used Chronic Docs - the process was a little weird but if you follow their instructions you'll be fine.

[TheTravellers]

Online's a great idea, hadn't thought about it - thanks, both of y'all. And yes, jerry, we submitted our initial applications ourselves without a problem (well, except that my wife's pic was unacceptable due to bangs, stupidly enough, it took 2 rejections for them to finally tell us that), so we can do the renewal ourselves as well.

[TheTravellers]

Are you willing to do telemed? https://www.15thstreetclinic.com/ does renewals for just $75, and they'll send you the completed form for your application, if you're comfortable submitting the renewal application yourself. The "visit" is a 2 minute phone call.

Started the process with them, kind of frustrating. Set an appt. for 10:45 today, doc texted and said he'd be in surgery at that time, so he needed to text or call later (it could be an emergency surgery, but since he had time to text me, and it was only 9:15 then, seems like it might not be, so the clinic should do better with the doctors' schedules). Then their emailed instructions told me I needed to email pics and my OMMA userid/pw to them even though I signed up for a self-service renewal, and also said an invoice was attached to the email, but it wasn't. Then I got a separate email with an invoice, but it had my full name in the "first name" field and nothing in the "last name" field. Apparently they charge $25 when you book, then $53.50 with the second invoice. And no explanation of the extra $3.50. Should've used Chronic Docs, they're 1/3 of the price, just want to get this ridiculousness over with, though I'll have my wife do Chronic Docs to see if they're any better.

[TheTravellers]

For folks that have done renewals, how long does it take? Ours have been sitting in "Submitted" status at OMMA for 2 weeks now.

[Scott5114]

For folks that have done renewals, how long does it take? Ours have been sitting in "Submitted" status at OMMA for 2 weeks now.

I haven't done a renewal, but a friend of mine said that on his initial application it remained showing as "Submitted" until after he got the card in the mail.

[TheTravellers]

I haven't done a renewal, but a friend of mine said that on his initial application it remained showing as "Submitted" until after he got the card in the mail.

Good to know, thanks.

[TheTravellers]

Well, this is ridiculous - both mine and my wife's applications (done on two different days about two weeks ago) got rejected yesterday because of a wrong date for our signature, and it's apparently because their system is f***ed up. When I edited my application after getting the rejection notice, it had a date of 5/something/2019 (should've gotten a screenshot, but was in a hurry just to get it re-submitted, got one for my wife's, though), and there's *no* way I would've let that slip. Hers had a date of 5/27/2019 when she edited hers yesterday (so the system takes the month and day from what it is currently and sticks 2019 on there????). No way both of us would've screwed up like that. And now, because they're idiots (or OMES are idiots, because they probably created and maintain the system), our edited applications are going to be rejected again because OMMA took so long that our DLs expire on 5/31, so we're going to have to wait until we get our new DLs (whenTF ever that might be), then re-re-submit.

They just need to legalize it recreationally, since that's what it is in all but name. If it was truly medical/medicinal, dispensaries would have a consistent supply of certain strains and you wouldn't have to guess as to which new strain they've gotten in will help with your symptoms like the strain you've been using for months, but they can't get now (it'd be like pharmacies running out of atorvastatin and saying "Well, we have this-statin and that-statin and the-other-statin, why don't you try one of those and see if it helps with your cholesterol?").