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  1. #51

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by Beastboii View Post
    C'mon guys ur gonna protest, just because of the name grow up. Now if it was Justin beiber ballpark.........I would fully support u
    It practically is. This is one of our city's gems, a piece of our pride and joy. I don't want it named after some Indian casino on the edge of the metro area. This is a huge slap in the face, and it devalues the Brick.

  2. #52

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Riverwind Field would've sounded better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    I don't go to casinos anyway (at least often, every now and then twice a year I might go to Riverwind -- hardly a regular), so I could say I won't visit their fine establishment, but they won't feel that. They (Mandalay) probably won't feel me not attending their games either, but it's the only way I can not support this name change. Money talks BS walks. My $10 admission ticket probably means nothing to them anyway, but I feel better anyway.
    You are right. Money Talks, BS walks, that's why they sold the naming rights....it's all about the money.

  4. #54

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    It practically is. This is one of our city's gems, a piece of our pride and joy. I don't want it named after some Indian casino on the edge of the metro area. This is a huge slap in the face, and it devalues the Brick.
    it "devalues" the brick ... more than the current name Redhawks field at Bricktown??

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    You feel that way because you aren't used to hearing casino names associated with public works. Take a look in cities/states where the casinos aren't so new and it's very different. They are an enterprise like any other, so while we may not like it, it would also be hypcritical to say company A should allowed but company B should not. And if the city rejects it, get ready for the city to have to eat legal fees in the court battle. It's no different from the anger people started feeling when any facility had its naming rights sold. We don't always like it, but we have to live with it. Personally, I hated every AT&T/SBC/SWB name on it before. I can't say I like this one either, but it's still fair.

    And I understand what you were saying Kayne, but that's exactlly what I'm pointing out. It does flow off the tongue better, but it's hypocritical to accept one in Newcastle and not another....remember they are both in Newcastle. Riverwind is not in Norman. Even though their website lists the address as Norman, the city stops at the river. It's symantecs, but i think you see the point.

  6. #56

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    it "devalues" the brick ... more than the current name Redhawks field at Bricktown??
    Well, could you explain what you think is wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    It practically is. This is one of our city's gems, a piece of our pride and joy. I don't want it named after some Indian casino on the edge of the metro area. This is a huge slap in the face, and it devalues the Brick.
    Wow, Spartan, that's two posts in a row where you and I are 100% in sync. Agree completely. The Ballpark arguably represents the core of the entire Bricktown renaissance...and now its got a moniker for a casino??

    And, for those interested, the word "casino" most certainly IS emblazoned on the ballpark in very small letters.

    I've sent my email to my councilman and the mayor, which I guess is about all I can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieHornet View Post
    seems to me that with baseball's past gambling problems - black sox, pete rose - that a baseball team wouldn't want this kind of association with a casino.
    One would think so, but the Redhawks are now owned by Mandalay, so it's a much more intimate association than just the name of the field...

    Perhaps someone should suggest putting the team in the same category as Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson (thanks, Mayor Mick) so long as it's owned by a gambling operator.

  9. #59

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kyle View Post
    One would think so, but the Redhawks are now owned by Mandalay, so it's a much more intimate association than just the name of the field...

    Perhaps someone should suggest putting the team in the same category as Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson (thanks, Mayor Mick) so long as it's owned by a gambling operator.
    Mandalay is not a gambling operator ... and NEVER has been ..

  10. Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Are they not the operator of the Newcastle Casino?

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    Someone else posted over at NewsOK.com but the Mandalay that owns the team (http://www.mandalay.com/#/sports/) is NOT the same folks that own Mandalay Bay out in Vegas (http://www.mgmresorts.com/default.aspx). The Chickasaw tribe are the owners of the Newcastle Casino (they also own Riverwind and a few other properties).

    Thanks BoulderSooner for the additional info...

  12. #62

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry OKC View Post
    Someone else posted over at NewsOK.com and I haven't verified any of this but the Mandalay that owns the team is NOT the same folks that own Mandalay Bay out in Vegas (MGM?). The Chickasaw tribe are the owners of the Newcastle Casino (they also own Riverwind)???
    Mandalay Entertainment group is a movie tv and sports group

    they own 5 minor leage baseball teams and they own the golden st warriors

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    Thanks for making things a bit more clear. This morning's paper indicated that Mandalay Sports is operating the casino on behalf of the tribe, and implied that the same organization owned the team. I wonder how many other folk came to the same conclusion that I did?

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    Sorry to digress, but while Shoeless Joe was banned for life over the Black Sox Scandal, there was never any real proof that he participated. A lot of people who've researched the matter are convinced he was innocent or had known about it but refused to be involved. I became pretty fascinated with the whole incident after a trip to Greenville, SC.

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    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    As a native Newcastlite(?? lol) I am sick of seeing articles all over the place blasting the city of Newcastle for having the field named after it.

    It is being named after the Newcastle Casino, not the city of Newcastle!!!

  16. Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Just to chime in and reiterate the fact that Mandalay Entertainment is primarily in the motion picture industry. They do not have ANY gambling connections.

  17. #67

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    I guess they heard the outcry about the name. Now to be called "Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark"

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    http://kfor.com/2012/04/05/ballpark-...ng-name-again/

    The Chick Brick. (j/k) Seriously, this is better and Mandalay should be commended for their improvements at the ballpark. As someone said earlier in the thread, they're making remarkable progress in updating and making the park a great baseball venue. That's their reputation and I was sorry to see the naming thing throw it for a loop. I was surprised because I think the ownership has been wonderful but thought they really blew it with the naming rights. They should have known better. Hopefully, we're back on track.

  19. #69

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Probably end up upsetting a whole nuther group of folk, but hey, since they dinna try and call it Chickasaw Travel Stop Field in Bricktown, all I have to add is .... Batter Up!

    Oh, and a well played to the owners, and the Chickasaw Nation.

  20. #70

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    This is a really funny way for the Chickasaws to inject their name on a city owned piece of property. I personally have no problem with it. It is just an interesting jab (imhop) to the City Staffers and others involved in the water rights dispute.

    Reminds me of the time Google had a large green park displayed digitally on Google Maps over the Apple campus for a few months. lol

  21. #71

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    I'm going to start crying if u guys start bitching about this name too.......

  22. #72

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeOKC View Post
    This actually caused me to literally LOL. It's kind of awesomely hilarious. I'm cool with the new name.

  23. Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    The game was packed tonight. Flyover by an AWAC to start the game was cool as well

  24. #74

    Default Re: Oklahoma City's Bricktown ballpark to see sixth name

    I think here's an instance in which a public outcry made a big difference. Phwew.

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    Wow. Public grumpiness can still work. And we got "Bricktown Ballpark" back in the official name. Chickasaw part? Meh. No gripes here.

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