Boeing

[Sheetkeecker]

Shouldn't the NLRB be blocking this outrage?

[soonerfan_in_okc]

is the boeing plant by tinker actually in OKC? Or is it in MWC/Del city? Just curious.

[Bellaboo]

is the boeing plant by tinker actually in OKC? Or is it in MWC/Del city? Just curious.

It's in OKC, as is Tinker AFB.

[Bellaboo]

Shouldn't the NLRB be blocking this outrage?

Could the NLRB actually block the move ?

[dmoor82]

I had a route in Hutchinson,KS today and this was all that was on the radio and being talked about by the locals.One morning radio dj said "Oklahoma City,who the hell wants to live there?"I had to laugh about someone from Wichita raggin' on OKC,but you can understand their frustration!

[MDot]

I had a route in Hutchinson,KS today and this was all that was on the radio and being talked about by the locals.One morning radio dj said "Oklahoma City,who the hell wants to live there?"I had to laugh about someone from Wichita raggin' on OKC,but you can understand their frustration!

Funny this is that that guy probably comes to Oklahoma City every other weekend. But you Definately have to feel for Wichita and how long Boeing has been there to just pack up and move to two larger cities out of nowhere. Wish the best for them and their future; I hope they get another large business that invests in Wichita the way Boeing did.

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/chamber-boeing-pre...rticle/3637849

And another plus in connection with Boeing.

http://newsok.com/defense-company-in...rticle/3637848

[Snowman]

Growing up I had thought it was odd that Midwest City was east of OKC. I had never heard it was named for the base, at the time Midwest Air Depot.

[ljbab728]

http://newsok.com/boeing-bringing-ov.../1367980732001

[G.Walker]

Pete, shifting from the Preftakes thread to this one, I think some of us are basing our assumption re the 6 story building re this article:

http://newsok.com/chamber-boeing-pre...rticle/3637849


in the article Director of Oklahoma City Operations Mike Emmelhainz said “It's a mirror image of what we're in today, but a bit bigger,” Emmelhainz said of the second building. “We should be able to occupy the first floor by the end of the first quarter of this year. And it will house the remainder of the 550 employees coming here. And with the announcement made in Wichita, we will next make a transition for those employees. And there is enough capacity to house those additional employees.”

However, that doesn't necessarily mean they will be there, he is just saying they have room for them if the need be.

[Pete]

He either misspoke or is being misquoted because the numbers don't come close to adding up:

• 520,000 square feet between the two buildings (200,000 in the 4-story and 320,000 in the 6-story)
• 1,250 employees before the recent announcement
• Just over 400 sq. ft. per employee, which is a low number to start
• They had previously said they needed 320,000 for the 550 Long Beach jobs, which is closer to 600 square feet per employee (more the norm)

They will need about another 500,000 square feet just for these new 900-1,000 jobs and probably more as these are higher-paid engineering functions which will require more square footage per employee.

[G.Walker]

He either misspoke or is being misquoted because the numbers don't come close to adding up:

• 520,000 square feet between the two buildings (200,000 in the 4-story and 320,000 in the 6-story)
• 1,250 employees before the recent announcement
• Just over 400 sq. ft. per employee, which is a low number to start
• They had previously said they needed 320,000 for the 550 Long Beach jobs, which is closer to 600 square feet per employee (more the norm)

They will need about another 500,000 square feet just for these new 900-1,000 jobs and probably more as these are higher-paid engineering functions which will require more square footage per employee.

Well, the only person who can clear up the confusion, is the person who wrote the article...Steve?

[Questor]

I guess you guys don't watch their job postings. It's pretty clear that they inhabit buildings on-base as well.

[SoonerDave]

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[ljbab728]

An interesting overview of the aerospace industry and it's inpact and relationship with OKC.

http://newsok.com/aerospace-industry...rticle/3638932

[rjstone208]

Almost all of the Boeing Engineers and many Logisticians work on base directly supporting a weapons system. So Boeing folks supporting the B-52 system for example work in the B-52 area and so on although some work in the mainenance and repair areas, most in Bldg 3001, the mile long building off Douglas. No sure but I'd guess that Boeing has the largest number of contractors physically working in offices (little square cubes) on Tinker.

[Teo9969]

It seems like the aerospace industry is something OKC should push harder to capture. OKC will be better off in the long run if it gets at least a little bit of diversification in the portfolio as soon as possible. Energy is great, and I think it will continue to be the bread-winner for OKC, but OKC needs to make a concerted effort to boost the attractiveness of the city to other markets as well.

All the Boeing jobs in the past 30 months that have been announced is a great start (especially considering that these are fantastic paying jobs). Let's hope to see someone else in the Aerospace industry make a move here.

[ljbab728]

It seems like the aerospace industry is something OKC should push harder to capture. OKC will be better off in the long run if it gets at least a little bit of diversification in the portfolio as soon as possible.

What would you suggest they do to "push harder"? It seems to me that it has already been a major priority and the pushing has netted great results.

[Larry OKC]

It seems like the aerospace industry is something OKC should push harder to capture. OKC will be better off in the long run if it gets at least a little bit of diversification in the portfolio as soon as possible. Energy is great, and I think it will continue to be the bread-winner for OKC, but OKC needs to make a concerted effort to boost the attractiveness of the city to other markets as well.

All the Boeing jobs in the past 30 months that have been announced is a great start (especially considering that these are fantastic paying jobs). Let's hope to see someone else in the Aerospace industry make a move here.

The Mayor made the same sentiments in his recent State of the City speech...

http://www.okc.gov/council/mayor/sta...012/index.html

On the flip side, we need to continue to diversify. As much as we have invested time and resources on creating jobs in aviation, bio-medical, and manufacturing, the energy sector continues to multiply and it is getting larger and larger. It’s a good problem to have, but we must make sure our economy looks at, and encourages, other market sectors.

[Snowman]

It seems like the aerospace industry is something OKC should push harder to capture. OKC will be better off in the long run if it gets at least a little bit of diversification in the portfolio as soon as possible.

Tinker gets thrown around as our larges single employer due to all the support jobs related to it, if you want diversification then we would be pushing harder in other sectors or more the commercial side of aviation. Which they are already doing expansion for the commercial work with Will Rodgers east side project.

[ljbab728]

I still don't understand the request for the city to push harder in some other areas. How do we know what areas the city has been pushing in? We can push in many areas without success but that doesn't mean they aren't pushing. You still take your successes wherever you can get them.

[Snowman]

I still don't understand the request for the city to push harder in some other areas. How do we know what areas the city has been pushing in? We can push in many areas without success but that doesn't mean they aren't pushing. You still take your successes wherever you can get them.

They are open to most any wanting to come, but you want diversification because that way when one takes a hit it does not kill all the cities revenues. I think Aerospace, Energy, Bioscience, Weather/Climate Research, Start-ups, Technology, Tourism were the focuses of the chamber on growing due to they have infrastructure to support those kind of things already so their is a lower barrier to get another one to come in.

[ljbab728]

They are open to most any wanting to come, but you want diversification because that way when one takes a hit it does not kill all the cities revenues. I think Aerospace, Energy, Bioscience, Weather/Climate Research, Start-ups, Technology, Tourism were the focuses of the chamber on growing due to they have infrastructure to support those kind of things already so their is a lower barrier to get another one to come in.

I understand exactly why you want diversification. What I don't understand is why some people think the city is not pursuing that.

[Teo9969]

I probably did not word my response the best.

My belief is not necessarily that the city is not pursuing a wider diversification in the economic fabric, indeed we neither see nor hear a lot of what goes on in meetings and conversations between higher-up OKC officials. But on some level, it would be nice to hear of these plans/ideas that they have and goals that the leaders have to accomplish the ultimate objective.

I think it would also be beneficial if City leaders put out more information to the citizens showing how investment in these types of businesses will ultimately bring a good return to the wealth of both the city and the individual.

[bombermwc]

Before someone comments on Teo's last sentence, i want to state what I the intent is. Letting the public know what we already know...how it's beneficial to do these things and how investing in local business is also good for the city. I can see some folks yelling at Teo and saying "how can you not realize that"....so i'm preempting it.

It would be nice if there was a section on the chamber's site, or okc.gov or something that showed which businesses are making use of these efforts. And maybe how to apply for those programs. If I knew of a startup that was working with the city to make things work, maybe my business would try and work with them as a vendor or something to support it. It's nothing but good to have local B2B going on.