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    Default 2012 and trains still have to blow horns?

    Well I guess many of you will think: Here we go again!

    I would rather say: Trains still blow again.

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    Forcing train engineers to blow the loud horns 4 times before every railroad crossing makes in my humble opinion no sense.
    But that's exactly what the FRA enforced when their new rules became final in 2006. Many people living around these railroads noticed this noise level change and frequency level.

    This new FRA rule does not reduce the number of accidents.
    People who want to cross railroads while red lights are flashing, bells are ringing and arms are down will not stop for the noise of these horns. They are drunk, stupid or suicidal.

    I don't understand why the US is the only place in the world where trains are forced to create this kind of noise pollution.

    Could someone please explain? (Without emotional arguments)

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    Word on the street has it that horns on trains are so effective that they are going to start putting them on police helicopters.

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    It's simple. Yes, barring limited exceptions, trains do still have to blow horns. And now that the question has been answered, I'll leave ya to who knows how many pages of whining about not liking the answer might happen to follow.

    But, as it pertains to OKC, perhaps a certain civic leader might donate some maps to be sold to cover the cost of the quiet zone some desire. He and the city fathers can call it MAPS 4 Shhhhh and the detractors can refer to it as hush money.

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    Default Re: 2012 and trains still have to blow horns?

    The relevant part is at :30.


    The short answer to the thread question is: Yes.
    (and i say that with even less emotion than mr. spock.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    The relevant part is at :30.


    The short answer to the thread question is: Yes.
    (and i say with even less emotion than mr. spock.)
    Skipper !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by torea View Post
    Well I guess many of you will think: Here we go again!

    I would rather say: Trains still blow again.
    The whining about something from 350 miles away is like jock itch... never really goes away lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhawg View Post
    Skipper !!!!!!
    Not now, Gilligan . . . I have to blow the whistle . . . OK . . . What's on your mind?

    Is "CANNONBALL EXPRESS" written backwards on the boiler so people can read it in their rear view mirrors right after they raced us to a rail crossing and won? Or is it just bad film editing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Not now, Gilligan . . . I have to blow the whistle . . . OK . . . What's on your mind?

    Is "CANNONBALL EXPRESS" written backwards on the boiler so people can read it in their rear view mirrors right after they raced us to a rail crossing and won? Or is it just bad film editing?
    I saw that and wondered the same thing

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    I always wondered about "The Shady Rest 'Hotel'" . . .


    If the train didn't blow it's horn, how would the girl's know that bath time was over and take appropriate measures to avoid getting stuck in the pipe when it was lowered to take on water?

    One thing I DO know . . .
    W.C. Fields would have made the show about a hundred times funnier than Edgar Buchannan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Word on the street has it that horns on trains are so effective that they are going to start putting them on police helicopters.
    I've heard the same thing. Only difference is the helicopters will have to blow their horn at all times instead of just 4 times at each crossing.

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    But only when they are flying low . . .
    Like below 10,000 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    But only when they are flying low . . .
    Like below 10,000 feet.
    Ahhh, I misunderstood. Thanks for clearing that up. LOL

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    I'm not sure if above shown movies are relevant in this blog ... except: they are silent movies! Thanks for your considerate attention.
    Also in the time of these black and white movies a clear warning sign is the thick black smoke. No Need for federal imposed honking rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torea View Post
    I'm not sure if above shown movies are relevant in this blog ... except: they are silent movies! Thanks for your considerate attention.
    Also in the time of these black and white movies a clear warning sign is the thick black smoke. No Need for federal imposed honking rules.
    Hate to break this to ya but the shows posted are more relevant than you are to this thread

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    Okay....kids!!! Please, stop acting like this. The other one got locked and I do not want to see this locked. Learn how to be an adult and be civil in a serious discussion. We're talking about train horns!!!

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    Personally I'm hoping this one gets deleted

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    Default Re: 2012 and trains still have to blow horns?

    Currently train engineers are forced to blow the loud train horns 4 times before every railroad crossing.
    This makes in my humble opinion no sense.
    And that's exactly what the FRA enforced when new rules became final in 2006.
    Many people living around railroads noticed this noise level and frequency change.

    This new FRA rule does not reduce the number of accidents.
    People who want to cross railroads while red lights are flashing, bells are ringing and arms are down will not stop for the noise of these horns. They are drunk, stupid or suicidal.

    Living in 2012, I don't understand why the US is the only civilized country in the world where trains are forced to create this kind of noise pollution.

    Could someone please explain? (Without emotional arguments)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhawg View Post
    Personally I'm hoping this one gets deleted
    So far this one has been the same as the other; torea is complaining/repeating himself with good intentions, RM is being RM and making the thread easier on the rest of us, Thunder is telling us to grow up and act civilized, only thing missing is OKCisOK4me and this would be a party. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by torea View Post
    Well I guess many of you will think: Here we go again!

    I would rather say: Trains still blow again.
    i would rather say
    that
    as The Trains
    silenced their horns
    and whistles,
    momentarily,
    in honor of
    the illegal fireworks
    and firearms displays
    in recognition of
    the New Year

    [insert no train noise]

    the next time
    that I hear
    a train "whistle" blow
    it will remind me of
    my unpaid debt
    to
    Local Public Television (OETA)
    for
    Entertainment Provided Tonight.

    Of course,
    none of this applies
    to anyone
    from Kansas
    or in the immediate vicinity
    of any point
    in the nostaglic
    yet forwardthinkin'
    memory
    of Belgium
    or thereabouts . . . =)

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    I'm setting in my cabin at lake Tenkiller, enjoying a cup of coffee, reading the paper and watching the birds enjoy the food and water I put out yesterday. The only thing missing is the lovely sound of a train whistle to make it perfect.

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    [QUOTE=RadicalModerate;494987]i would rather say
    that
    as The Trains
    silenced their horns
    and whistles,
    momentarily,
    in honor of
    the illegal fireworks
    and firearms displays
    in recognition of
    the New Year

    /[QUOTE]

    You mention Europe and illegal fireworks.
    As we all know, The USA is far more advanced in many areas compared to the rest of the world.

    Not for unnecessary train horn noise since this does not improve safety. Not for fireworks neither:
    The selling of fireworks has been halted and made illegal in many countries in Europe.
    Hundreds of kids were loosing fingers and eyes every year again.

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    [QUOTE=torea;495028]
    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    You mention Europe and illegal fireworks.
    As we all know, The USA is far more advanced in many areas compared to the rest of the world.

    Not for unnecessary train horn noise since this does not improve safety. Not for fireworks neither:
    The selling of fireworks has been halted and made illegal in many countries in Europe.
    Hundreds of kids were loosing fingers and eyes every year again.
    I won't speak for Europe but having spent over six months in England I have seen many brick and mortar fireworks stores all over Great Britain and last night I was talking (via skype) to my friend in London and it sounded like world war III in her little gated community. They are legal everywhere.
    C. T.

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    [QUOTE=ctchandler;495037]
    Quote Originally Posted by torea View Post
    I won't speak for Europe but having spent over six months in England I have seen many brick and mortar fireworks stores all over Great Britain and last night I was talking (via skype) to my friend in London and it sounded like world war III in her little gated community. They are legal everywhere.
    C. T.
    I don't know how many victims you can count in GB but in a small country like Holland there were this year 23 victims with serious eye damage .. this is more than the eye damage done by the war in Iraq to all the GI's!

    The article is in Dutch but I will be glad to translate it for you:
    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Belgie/...akoorlog.dhtml

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    I kind of miss the thread being dated at least a year behind the times.

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