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    Wow nice. Wish they would have put that amount towards the hotel at Riverwind.

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    Wow, that's impressive.

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    Nice....

    Quote Originally Posted by venture79 View Post
    Wow nice. Wish they would have put that amount towards the hotel at Riverwind.
    This... maybe one day they will do that.

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    Yes, with the growing population in the Oklahoma City metro, I am sure RiverWind will expand in the near future.

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    This project looks like cheesy Latin American and/or Soviet commie block architecture from the 80s/90s, glad it's not in the metro, truthfully. Although it would be nice to have a draw/mecca like the Winstar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    This project looks like cheesy Latin American and/or Soviet commie block architecture from the 80s/90s, glad it's not in the metro, truthfully. Although it would be nice to have a draw/mecca like the Winstar.
    Spartan, have you seen Winstar in person? The whole thing looks kinda cheesy. But remember it's a casino. What do you expect? Thats typical of US casinos which aren't known for being tasteful. It's certainly not Monte Carlo.

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    Great news. God forbid Texas ever legalize gambling.

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    ^^
    The second Tricky Ricky leaves the governor's mansion down in Austin, that is a real possibility.

    I know Foxwoods in CT (which at one point was the biggest Indian Casino in the nation) is bracing for their business to plunge from the NYCers now going to casinos in Pennsylvania, which just legalized gaming. That is the danger in placing your competitive advantage in something that others will eventually figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.Walker View Post
    Yes, with the growing population in the Oklahoma City metro, I am sure RiverWind will expand in the near future.
    More like DFW/North Texas, it's closer and more Texas traffic than anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    Spartan, have you seen Winstar in person? The whole thing looks kinda cheesy. But remember it's a casino. What do you expect? Thats typical of US casinos which aren't known for being tasteful. It's certainly not Monte Carlo.
    True, but casinos in other states outside Vegas are much nicer than OK's.

    Quote Originally Posted by BDK View Post
    Great news. God forbid Texas ever legalize gambling.
    yep, the death of OK casinos will be for the tribes not investing in quality, world class facilities, and then Texas legalizes it. They will do it right in Texas.

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    How is the American Indian Cultural Museum fund raising doing?

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    metro,Riverwind is not closer to the DFW metroplex and its OKC traffic!

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    Something tells me that the people I see single-mindedly glued to the machines in the casinos couldn't give a rats if the outer building facades or even the inner decor look cheesy or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSoftail View Post
    Something tells me that the people I see single-mindedly glued to the machines in the casinos couldn't give a rats if the outer building facades or even the inner decor look cheesy or not.
    To me it depends on the quality of the gaming and the perks offered. If I'm sitting down at a machine doing $27 or whatever a pull, I expect to get some kick backs. Free meals at world class restaurants, weekly free play, free trips, free gifts around this time of year, etc. Unfortunately we don't have the major casino chains here in OK so that will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    How is the American Indian Cultural Museum fund raising doing?
    I don't know, but I can find you the address and number of the agency which oversees that legislatively approved project if you need assistance in locating it to ask them. It's a state creation, not a tribal one. Figure you knew that, but thought I'd mention it just in case you forgot. I hear excessive city walking can impact memory from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpate View Post
    i don't know, but i can find you the address and number of the agency which oversees that legislatively approved project if you need assistance in locating it to ask them. It's a state creation, not a tribal one. Figure you knew that, but thought i'd mention it just in case you forgot. I hear excessive city walking can impact memory from time to time.
    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    Spartan, have you seen Winstar in person? The whole thing looks kinda cheesy.
    Kinda? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaniel View Post
    ^^
    The second Tricky Ricky leaves the governor's mansion down in Austin, that is a real possibility.
    Rick Perry is Governor of Texas until January 2015. So at minimum, Texas won't have gambling legalize for 5 more years. By then Winstar could have another 2-3 more hotels built, and the complex could be even more massive. I doubt Winstar is worried about Texas gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ourulz2000 View Post
    Rick Perry is Governor of Texas until January 2015. So at minimum, Texas won't have gambling legalize for 5 more years. By then Winstar could have another 2-3 more hotels built, and the complex could be even more massive. I doubt Winstar is worried about Texas gambling.
    How could they not be worried about it? If texas legalized it and they built a casino in DFW who would drive to OK to do their gambling.

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    This may or may not be relevant at some point in the future.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-18-10-14-37

    Court won't stop lawsuit against tribal casino

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court won't stop a lawsuit seeking to shut down a Native American casino in Michigan.

    The high court on Monday upheld a lower court decision that would allow casino foe David Patchak to sue to shut the casino down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargerAg View Post
    How could they not be worried about it? If texas legalized it and they built a casino in DFW who would drive to OK to do their gambling.
    Texas won't do it anytime soon. It's been proven, it doesn't help a state's economy. Just look at Oklahoma, Nevada, Mississippi, etc. (ok's good economy not because of gambling).
    also, would you rather go to a nice weekend getta-way out of town with golf, several hotels to choose from, 2nd largest casino in the world (winstar) or some crappy new casino in rockwall in a few years? I live in dfw, would rather go to winstar.

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    It drains your state's disposable income into a black hole that otherwise would have a domino effect in supporting businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ourulz2000 View Post
    Texas won't do it anytime soon. It's been proven, it doesn't help a state's economy. Just look at Oklahoma, Nevada, Mississippi, etc. (ok's good economy not because of gambling).
    also, would you rather go to a nice weekend getta-way out of town with golf, several hotels to choose from, 2nd largest casino in the world (winstar) or some crappy new casino in rockwall in a few years? I live in dfw, would rather go to winstar.
    I agree, I don't think it will be legal in Texas for many, many years. Too many extreme conservatives running the state, the rural block is much stronger than the city reps/senators and doesn't want them and more than likely will not let it pass even out of committee. They would much rather force their constituents to go "somewhere else" to get their gambling or drink on out os sight of their fellow parishioners eyes. I can guarantee you the tribes and/or casino operators invested in Oklahoma, Louisiana and New Mexico probably lobby the Texas legislature hard to prevent it while the ones who don't have operations there are probably lobbying the other way. Remember, there are still some "dry counties" in Texas out in the rural areas and just like Oklahoma (and most states, like Colorado) the rural voters tend to be much, much more socially conservative than those living in and around the cities and tend to have the numbers to outvote the cities when it comes to legislation.

    I do remember a casino boat in Port Aransas that would sail out on "day cruises" to international waters and open the tables up. I think Abbott (Texas AG) finally found a way to shut them down.

    The Winstar is light years ahead of what it was for many years, nothing but a sprung building off the highway. Even if it is a bit cheesy (as are most casinos, even in Vegas) they have made a substantial investment and made it into something that many in North Texas enjoy going to. There are also many in the DFW area who have bought lake property in Southern Oklahoma because of the value of the property (and lower property taxes) than you can typically find in Texas.

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    Winstar is the 3rd largest casino in the world, it's not going anywhere anytime soon excepting getting bigger and bigger. Outside of the 2 Winstar hotels, there is about 4 other smaller ones down there too. Wouldn't be surprised if a small town/city is created with restaurants, shopping, and homes over the next 10 years. Heck, they're going to have 150 people alone working the new hotel.










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    Is there any plan to build something of substance like this at Riverwind Casino in Norman? I know that being in Norman probably doesn't require the hotel because most people visiting are able to drive back home at night, but it would be nice to see something of a little higher quality be developed on their land.

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