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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    ^^^^^^^
    Sounds like you’re just spoiling for a fight. I love Lovallo House.

    By the way, there absolutely WAS a controversy. It was covered extensively in the media and included very heated public meetings. And I would deem a protest coming from the people across the street a “neighborhood protest.” Not sure what else it should be called.

    For the record I’m glad Lovallo house prevailed and happy to see the architectural changes in the district. I said so much in my post. Perhaps you have chip on YOUR shoulder?
    Sorry… no fight from me.

    The “controversy” was the result of ONE neighbor’s incessant pestering. ALL other neighbors supported the design. Technically, you’re right, it was a neighborhood protest. The entire neighborhood protested the one neighbor’s irrational arguments.

    I agree with you that SoSA is a positive architectural oasis. I’m glad you like the Lovallo house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    Setback in SoSa essentially became an unenforceable issue after Fitzsimmons Architects’ Lovallo House design prevailed vs neighborhood protests. I’ve never heard whether it was the case or not, but I always wondered if the Lovallo design wasn’t inspired in part by the neighborhood nose-thumbing that Frank Lloyd Wright gave Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood when he designed Robie house to defy setback rules. I toured Robie house not long before the time of Lovallo’s construction and it really stuck with me during the Lovallo controversy.

    Either way, I’m glad OKC has this interesting enclave that’s a neat little architectural lab, and even more glad that it’s not an actual enclave but public city streets in the heart of the community.
    There is definitely still a huge outcry from projects pushing past setbacks. Its literally the one thing that will guarantee opposition. And its kind of a joke in some instances. Sure, you dont want to allow egregious cases of going way farther forward than whats existing. But whats jokey about it is that giant wedge in the home above isnt counted towards the setback because it isnt heated and cooled part of the house or covered patio, which is where you measure to. So while its not counted to the setback, it can still completely block the views. However, its allowed per the rules.

    Just seems like a waste of valuable urban land to force someone to not use 25ft (something like 1,250sf) of their property because of some old houses that will likely be torn down anyways. There needs to be a little more wiggle room if you can show you arent harming anyones view or value. This isnt some cookie cutter suburban neighborhood. Its downtown and its perfectly ok for it to show a variety of styles, shapes and sizes.

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    Update: Saint Anthony's is now called SSM Health

    so this district is now known as SoSSM!

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    Woo Hoo! Welcome to SoSSM!

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    SoSSM...rhymes with awesome? That's SoSSM!

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    I still like Emerson Heights haha
    NOTICE: I WORK FOR A DOWNTOWN TOURIST ATTRACTION

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    http://journalrecord.com/2018/12/17/...causes-a-rift/

    Anybody know what the setback change is?

  10. #685

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    Sorry, not a fan.

  11. #686

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    I still like Emerson Heights haha
    How about LOSA? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    http://journalrecord.com/2018/12/17/...causes-a-rift/

    Anybody know what the setback change is?
    In Molly’s article… Commissioner Scott Cravens said while he sympathizes with the developers, the Cottage District needs some type of regulation. “This (area) got away from the city in a regulations and guidelines perspective,” he said. “I support this because it brings an end to that.”

    BS.

    “Under-regulation” of this tiny area hasn’t upset the space-time continuum or glitched the matrix. The city’s urban fabric will be just fine without additional regulation of SoSA. It’s never been under-regulated. It’s had confusing, overlapping, unclear, and stupid regulations…

    For perspective, “this area” is the same size as Quail Springs Mall. It’s a tiny district. Leave it alone. Let it happen. It wants to be unique…

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    Has to do with different setback requirements for single family and multifamily/office uses. Multifamily and office dont have any setback requirements but that was going to change, or not change now. I guess its not official yet. The NIMBYism is high in this neighborhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by dwellsokc View Post
    In Molly’s article… Commissioner Scott Cravens said while he sympathizes with the developers, the Cottage District needs some type of regulation. “This (area) got away from the city in a regulations and guidelines perspective,” he said. “I support this because it brings an end to that.”

    BS.

    “Under-regulation” of this tiny area hasn’t upset the space-time continuum or glitched the matrix. The city’s urban fabric will be just fine without additional regulation of SoSA. It’s never been under-regulated. It’s had confusing, overlapping, unclear, and stupid regulations…

    For perspective, “this area” is the same size as Quail Springs Mall. It’s a tiny district. Leave it alone. Let it happen. It wants to be unique…
    Yes please. For a conservative state, there is still pockets where people want a ton of regulation. This neighborhood is basically downtown, let there be some variety and density.

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    Nimbys don’t get much worse than SF or LA.

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    Deleted a bunch of posts.

    Intentional or not, the discussion was getting far too political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I am waiting on the first really strong windstorm to see how that holds up.

  17. #692

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    I do not dig that house at all and if I'm not mistaken the architecture firm has moved out of the building next door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam View Post
    I do not dig that house at all and if I'm not mistaken the architecture firm has moved out of the building next door.
    At first I thought you were about to say, "the architecture firm has moved out of state...."

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    Ha, no.

    Looks like the business name was removed from the sign

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    I love that house. It looks so cool in the sunset driving down 6th

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