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    Default Obama out for 2012? Just Wait and See...

    Now that he has served his purpose (take the hits and do the dirty work) the Clinton Machine will move into high gear and find a way to dispose of him and offer up the Christ of Hillary to the Nation. It was the plan all along, where do you think Obama came from anyway?--Who found him?...I mean--didn't he just appear out of the ether one day? Democrats will always find some black-folks to burn up on their way to Lenin's Great Cause...remember...it was Hillary who has been filmed in abject adoration of His Imperial One-ness...Mr. George Soros...she loves him more than life itself...he's been buying the Clintons for decades...

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    Democrats will want Obama out but he won't go. That is my prediction. Obama and the Democrats have two different goals. Many Democrats just want to be in charge and they don't care what they are in charge of . They are after power. Obama's goal is to bring Socialism to America and he is off to a pretty good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    Democrats will want Obama out but he won't go. That is my prediction. Obama and the Democrats have two different goals. Many Democrats just want to be in charge and they don't care what they are in charge of . They are after power. Obama's goal is to bring Socialism to America and he is off to a pretty good start.
    The democrats wanted JFK out of office...and...he went...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    Democrats will want Obama out but he won't go. That is my prediction. Obama and the Democrats have two different goals. Many Democrats just want to be in charge and they don't care what they are in charge of . They are after power. Obama's goal is to bring Socialism to America and he is off to a pretty good start.
    very likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmarkross View Post
    The democrats wanted JFK out of office...and...he went...
    No way does Obama 'go away' like that. Bill and Hillary wouldn't be able to live with themselves after that. On the other hand, it could lead to a 'buy one get two free' scenario.

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    He'll bow out, probably with self pitying finger pointing (at the GOP and Dems, alike) while thinking he looks very noble even as he is being unfairly treated. Then he will go make tons of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    No way does Obama 'go away' like that. Bill and Hillary wouldn't be able to live with themselves after that. On the other hand, it could lead to a 'buy one get two free' scenario.
    There is nothing...and I mean **NOTHING** one can put past the Clintons and their Benefactor, Soros. Absolutely nothing. And--Soros knows how to wreak havoc anywhere on Earth...just--keep your eyes open...and marvel at the menagerie...

    Soros knew what he was doing with Bill and Hillary--I mean--if you want to control things--who better than a pathological liar and hyper-ambitious shrew like Hillary "married" to a serially and accomplished sexual offender with the 'gift of gab'? The KGB handbook would use them as the model...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    Then he will go make tons of money.
    Where is his past do you see this drive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    He'll bow out, probably with self pitying finger pointing (at the GOP and Dems, alike) while thinking he looks very noble even as he is being unfairly treated. Then he will go make tons of money.
    then they will award him another Nobel Peace Prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
    then they will award him another Nobel Peace Prize.
    No! Two or three!!...science, peace, literature...the sky is the limit!

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    Oh look it's another thread full of paranoid delusions. Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HewenttoJared View Post
    Where is his past do you see this drive?
    From here:

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...ollars_in_2007

    Barack Obama on Wednesday reported earnings of more than 4 million dollars in 2007
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-update1-.html

    The Obamas’ taxable income was $5 million after deductions, according to a copy of their 2009 tax form released by the White House today,
    Go to DC, become a millionaire.

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    Bow out? Dream on. How often does the incumbent "bow out?" 1968 was the last time.

    This meme is the GOP trying to plant ideas to encourage a Ted Kennedy to step up and challenge in order to split the democratic base so the non-existent GOP candidate has a shot.

    The democrats aren't going to do that. They may lack discipline but you'd be crazy to bet on this scenario for 2012.

    And, I'll ask this question again:
    Who does the GOP have waiting in the wings to mount a viable challenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond_Outsider View Post
    Bow out? Dream on. How often does the incumbent "bow out?" 1968 was the last time.

    This meme is the GOP trying to plant ideas to encourage a Ted Kennedy to step up and challenge in order to split the democratic base so the non-existent GOP candidate has a shot.

    The democrats aren't going to do that. They may lack discipline but you'd be crazy to bet on this scenario for 2012.

    And, I'll ask this question again:
    Who does the GOP have waiting in the wings to mount a viable challenge?
    I think Tim Pawlenty from MN is a dark horse for the GOP.

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    We'll start seeing the runners setting up, fairly quickly, I imagine. Fund raising and all that rot. Maybe by next spring their get some front runners?

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    Maybe we will recruit a community organizer.

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    With approval numbers for congressional dems and repubs both currently at 27%, the ground is fertile for a bid by billionaire Mike Bloomberg.

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    Census results should make Obama work a little harder to land another 4 yrs...Texas is poised to control the country

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40739464/ns/politics/

    CHARLES BABINGTON
    The Associated Press
    The 2010 census report coming out Tuesday will include a boatload of good political news for Republicans and grim data for Democrats hoping to re-elect President Barack Obama and rebound from last month's devastating elections.

    The population continues to shift from Democratic-leaning Rust Belt states to Republican-leaning Sun Belt states, a trend the Census Bureau will detail in its once-a-decade report to the president. Political clout shifts, too, because the nation must reapportion the 435 House districts to make them roughly equal in population, based on the latest census figures.

    The biggest gainer will be Texas, a GOP-dominated state expected to gain up to four new House seats, for a total of 36. The chief losers New York and Ohio, each projected by nongovernment analysts to lose two seats were carried by Obama in 2008 and are typical of states in the Northeast and Midwest that are declining in political influence.

    Democrats' problems don't end there.

    November's elections put Republicans in control of dozens of state legislatures and governorships, just as states prepare to redraw their congressional and legislative district maps. It's often a brutally partisan process, and Republicans' control in those states will enable them to create new districts to their liking.

    The combination of population shifts and the recent election results could make Obama's re-election campaign more difficult. Each House seat represents an electoral vote in the presidential election process, giving more weight to states Obama probably will lose in 2012. The states he carried in 2008 are projected to lose, on balance, six electoral votes to states that his GOP challenger, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, won. That sets a higher bar for Obama before his re-election campaign even starts.

    "The way the maps have shifted have made Obama's route to success much more difficult," said Republican Party spokesman Doug Heye. He said the GOP takeover of several state governments on the eve of redistricting efforts was "a dramatic shift."

    Republicans now control the governor's offices and both legislative chambers in competitive presidential states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Indiana, Maine and Wisconsin. They hold the governors' chairs in other crucial states, including Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Iowa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    With approval numbers for congressional dems and repubs both currently at 27%, the ground is fertile for a bid by billionaire Mike Bloomberg.
    He says no but I tend to be skeptical until it gets too soon to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy180 View Post
    Census results should make Obama work a little harder to land another 4 yrs...Texas is poised to control the country

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40739464/ns/politics/

    CHARLES BABINGTON
    The Associated Press
    The 2010 census report coming out Tuesday will include a boatload of good political news for Republicans and grim data for Democrats hoping to re-elect President Barack Obama and rebound from last month's devastating elections.

    The population continues to shift from Democratic-leaning Rust Belt states to Republican-leaning Sun Belt states, a trend the Census Bureau will detail in its once-a-decade report to the president. Political clout shifts, too, because the nation must reapportion the 435 House districts to make them roughly equal in population, based on the latest census figures.

    The biggest gainer will be Texas, a GOP-dominated state expected to gain up to four new House seats, for a total of 36. The chief losers — New York and Ohio, each projected by nongovernment analysts to lose two seats — were carried by Obama in 2008 and are typical of states in the Northeast and Midwest that are declining in political influence.

    Democrats' problems don't end there.

    November's elections put Republicans in control of dozens of state legislatures and governorships, just as states prepare to redraw their congressional and legislative district maps. It's often a brutally partisan process, and Republicans' control in those states will enable them to create new districts to their liking.

    The combination of population shifts and the recent election results could make Obama's re-election campaign more difficult. Each House seat represents an electoral vote in the presidential election process, giving more weight to states Obama probably will lose in 2012. The states he carried in 2008 are projected to lose, on balance, six electoral votes to states that his GOP challenger, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, won. That sets a higher bar for Obama before his re-election campaign even starts.

    "The way the maps have shifted have made Obama's route to success much more difficult," said Republican Party spokesman Doug Heye. He said the GOP takeover of several state governments on the eve of redistricting efforts was "a dramatic shift."

    Republicans now control the governor's offices and both legislative chambers in competitive presidential states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Indiana, Maine and Wisconsin. They hold the governors' chairs in other crucial states, including Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Iowa.
    That article sums up why the last mid term was so devastating for the democrats beyond merely losing the house and individual members. That was the tip of the ice berg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    With approval numbers for congressional dems and repubs both currently at 27%, the ground is fertile for a bid by billionaire Mike Bloomberg.
    Bloomberg has decllined running for president. However, Jesse Ventura has said that he will consider running for president, if Bloomberg would back him. I would gladly vote Ventura for president as a means to once again protest how the Democrats and Republicans are run by lobbyists, just like I did both times with Ross Perot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    That article sums up why the last mid term was so devastating for the democrats beyond merely losing the house and individual members. That was the tip of the ice berg.
    What the Republicans do with their new found power, especially in states like Oklahoma, will be key in determining if they are going to dominate over the Democrats for a very long time. In other words, will the Republican vow to cut taxes and reduce government spending, if their serious about it, end up charming, rather than alarming the people?

    If the ecomony is still weak in 2012, it will be safe to say the Democrats are still in big trouble.

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    THe less idiological pundits are saying this last election was over non-partisan disatisfaction which is almost always focused at the party in power. This is why mid-terms almost always have big gains for whichever party isn't in the whitehouse.

    THis generally bounces that dissatisfaction against the party put in control mid-term and favors the incombent for the white house.

    But, Hillary and Soros are the all powerful satanic force who control everything. The only reason there were such gains is so Hillary could possition herself as the reasonable alternative to the president which is also why she let him win the nomination in '08 so she could ....win in '12 instead of in '08 because then she would be in place for the 2012 appocalypse she's really planning. JFK was just part of the thousand year plot. Soros and Hillary are immortal so they've got time enough to let Obama win one term or two or a hundred because they're the evil nuclear magic unicorns of doom.

    Gosh, it's really a bottomless bowl of fick once you start digging into it.

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    In Oklahoma, it's just down to the theocrats vs. the greedheads. At least the greedheads know you can't attract new taxpayers to subsidize your basketball team by screaming about gays, creationism and carrying loaded guns into Dunkin Donuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    With approval numbers for congressional dems and repubs both currently at 27%, the ground is fertile for a bid by billionaire Mike Bloomberg.
    LOL - Bloomberg. What party ticket would he run on? The best thing he could do is run as an independent and just hand the Presidency to a conservative Republican. Let's do a little test. How many of you moderates and liberals would vote for Bloomberg over Obama?

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