Whitewater Facility

[Platemaker]

I noticed this little inlet near the Exchange Boathouse on the new Google Maps aerials. Nestled in between Stockyards City and the Farmer's Market district (and downtown), it looks like a good location for the MAPS 3 Whitewater facility. Thoughts?

[Spartan]

I think the idea is to have the Whitewater facility close to the other river facilities. I think the inlet poses some great redevelopment potential once the rest of OKC is gentrified in the year 3050.

[Platemaker]

LOL! You really have zero hope for the southside don't ya Spartan.

[Spartan]

I've just been watching things get worse for the last few years, so I don't even notice my own negativity anymore. It was really just a joke though..my point was simply that it's a long ways out from even Core 2 Shore's boundary.

[mugofbeer]

I've just been watching things get worse for the last few years, so I don't even notice my own negativity anymore. It was really just a joke though..my point was simply that it's a long ways out from even Core 2 Shore's boundary.

LOL Yeah, Spartan, things in OKC really have gotten a lot worse in the last few years. Leave for a few years and then come back and you can really tell how the city has leaped forward compared to what it was in 1986 when I left.

[Dustin]

Im REALLY looking forward to this.. Its a really cool idea IMO.

[Spartan]

LOL Yeah, Spartan, things in OKC really have gotten a lot worse in the last few years. Leave for a few years and then come back and you can really tell how the city has leaped forward compared to what it was in 1986 when I left.

On the SOUTH side, which is starting to see overcrowding, pollution, traffic bottlenecks (esp along Western), and other problems. I have noticed a lot of neighborhoods are getting better and crime seems to be way down. I believe the OCPD's gang task force has done wonders on that regard. But let's keep in mind we aren't talking about Bricktown or Heritage Hills.

I think the #1 change the southside has seen in the last ten years is overcrowding. Between SW 59th and SW 29th has long had the densest demographics in the city, but in the last ten years it's also been one of the main areas experiencing population growth (and especially undocumented demographic change) despite no new housing stock being completed.

Once you have sat through 4-5 cycles of lights on Western you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, and it's not the traffic and congestion I am concerned about (not much you can do about that)--it is the deteriorating arteries, poor streetscapes, and wasted opportunities to improve this high-traffic corridor.

[ljbab728]

I noticed this little inlet near the Exchange Boathouse on the new Google Maps aerials. Nestled in between Stockyards City and the Farmer's Market district (and downtown), it looks like a good location for the MAPS 3 Whitewater facility. Thoughts?

I'm not saying this wouldn't be a good area but keep in mind the location won't need any water access to the river. The water system will be totally independent.

[bombermwc]

You definitely don't want a whitewater area to touch river water. The Oklahoma River isn't exactlly the kind of water you frolic around in...ew. And if you're in a kyak, you're going to tip over a lot and probably ingest a good amount. You don't want that to be river water with (literally) poo from the stockyards in it. Just sayin....

[CuatrodeMayo]

It is my understanding that it will be located between the Dallas junction and the boathouse row.

[metro]

That inlet isn't big enough for the course anyways. Bomber, I know the river is probably nasty, but they did make the Stockyards company clean up their act and install systems to keep the "poo" runoff from flowing into the river.

[okcpulse]

Honestly they just need to move the stockyards to some place else like El Reno. It does not belong next to a river that is being transformed into a recreational body of water.

[Kerry]

Honestly they just need to move the stockyards to some place else like El Reno. It does not belong next to a river that is being transformed into a recreational body of water.

Do you know the pile of money they would have to spend on environmental clean-up if they tried to move.

[BDP]

Do you know the pile of money they would have to spend on environmental clean-up if they tried to move.

Not to mention the pile of money they'd be taking with them.

[rcjunkie]

Honestly they just need to move the stockyards to some place else like El Reno. It does not belong next to a river that is being transformed into a recreational body of water.

No disrespect, but his is the dumbest comment I've read on OKC TALK, The OKC Stockyards are a valuable part of our history, was here long before the River/Entertainment area was even thought of, and definately does not need to be moved.

[Spartan]

The Stockyards are good, they bring tourism, they are an asset for locals, they add culture, and they provide a huge amount of jobs still. What I don't think okcpulse realizes is that there are many effective ways of detaining water runoff without it going into the Oklahoma River. It may be that it has a greater environmental impact that way, but it's still a better alternative than sick triathlon participants.

[dankrutka]

Are there good ways of really cleaning up the Oklahoma River? It would be great if they could have triathlons and other events without everyone getting sick...

[Midtowner]

Are there good ways of really cleaning up the Oklahoma River? It would be great if they could have triathlons and other events without everyone getting sick...

Cow diapers.

[Spartan]

Are there good ways of really cleaning up the Oklahoma River? It would be great if they could have triathlons and other events without everyone getting sick...

It is clean, now. We've stopped the leakage of fecal matter for over a year now.

[Architect2010]

There are two residential developments that I know of on the inner Southside, but of course I'm a resident so I'm going to notice them more readily. Also, drive through any Hispanic dominated neighborhood and you'll notice on every single street that there are new homes. So while these don't add to existing stock per se, they do help with the gentrification of the area. The Mexicans really like brick houses and brick mailboxes. ;] However, as said, infrastructure improvements are in dire need. Western like mentioned, Penn, 29th, 44th, Shields below 44th, and 59th could all use some dire improvements. It actually upsets me that the condition of Southside streets are so disgusting compared to the northside or suburbs. Apparently, they don't have Beautification projects over here either.

Anyways, this outlet as shown are spotted throughout the river frequently no? I believe there is two of them just west of Walker on the southside of the river as well and these two have boardwalks going through them. They're just beautification and recreational outlets, but I assume their primary functions have something to do with the River itself. Enlightenment?

[ljbab728]

[QUOTE=Architect2010;343959]There are two residential developments that I know of on the inner Southside, but of course I'm a resident so I'm going to notice them more readily. Also, drive through any Hispanic dominated neighborhood and you'll notice on every single street that there are new homes. So while these don't add to existing stock per se, they do help with the gentrification of the area. The Mexicans really like brick houses and brick mailboxes. ;] However, as said, infrastructure improvements are in dire need. Western like mentioned, Penn, 29th, 44th, Shields below 44th, and 59th could all use some dire improvements. It actually upsets me that the condition of Southside streets are so disgusting compared to the northside or suburbs. Apparently, they don't have Beautification projects over here either.QUOTE]

Actually I drive through both residential and business areas on both the north an south sides regularly. I see just as many street improvement projects ongoing on the south side as on the north side.

[fuzzytoad]

I think it's adorable that some of you still think we're getting these things...

[dmoor82]

^^This attraction is part of MAPS 3,so why would we not be getting it?Has The 2 previous MAPS not been a HUGE success?

[dankrutka]

I think it's adorable that some of you still think we're getting these things...

Yeah! The government is going to use the money to keep Roswell and the JFK assassination secret. Ooooooohhhhhhh.

[dankrutka]

It is clean, now. We've stopped the leakage of fecal matter for over a year now.

Why does it still smell?