Actual City?

[easternobserver]

I feel myself saying this a lot -- its so funny that people who have no idea what they are talking about spout off opinions as if they are fact.......bomber....why dont you call someone at the City to see if you are right?

I happen to have some experience on this one -- last year, a family member agreed to drive the druggie neighbor kid to see his boxing coach. Innocent and clueless as she is, she was led right in to this apartment complex. On a saturday night. Her car was immediately surrounded by thugs, they shot over her car several times, and then one of them calmly walked up to her and told her she looked very nice and must be in the wrong place and that she should leave now and never come back. When she followed up with the city, she heard some great stories about this complex, including that police cannot go in unless they have backup and that fire/ems has to wait for police escort.

[Redskin 70]

Really? <sarcasm> I very seriously doubt that. I've known people that lived there and it's not nearly as bas as you are making it out to be. There are bad apples there, yes, but don't claim the whole place as ghetto. And to say that someone won't respond to a call at a location is totally, 100%, completely inaccurate. Even in the worst parts of town, you won't find people bothering responders....especially fire/medical responders. A polic officer might get harrased, but that happens everywhere. That goes with enforcing the laws.

Really (sarcasam also) than you havent a clue as to the condition of Oakridge.
and Yes it is a fact the Police only go in there two at a time and the Fire has a standing memo that NO FIRE OR EMS go there without a police presence.
and yes there is a reason its called the OK Corral and I stand with my assertion it is ghetto.............dont believe me just call the DC police and fire and ask them the above questions.......I did and it is accurate

Damn near as bad as the Old Hamiliton courts on Grand Blvd...........

[bombermwc]

Wow, what a completely inaccurate representation of the compelx. Congrats.

[easternobserver]

inaccurate, how so?

[Redskin 70]

Wow, what a completely inaccurate representation of the compelx. Congrats.

Please explain your comment..........I would be more than glad to see your comments once you have driven through there.............without a police escort of course

[bombermwc]

Been there, done that. And guess what, i survived, wasn't mugged, didn't have anyone try and jack my car, etc. I'm guessing you're the same kind of person that said you'd get shot at Crossroads huh?

[Bazooka Joe]

I always chuckle a little when i see Del City folks make this argument..."if Del City had that land, it wouldn't be like that."
1 - the same people that live in those homes/apts would still be there

2 - don't make a generalize statment about "those" people either. Just like ANY other area, there are good and bad people mixed together.

3 - The folks that make this statement are usually silently making the assumption that DCPD would then start patrolling the area. They wouldn't do that any more than they do any other part of DC...they would respond to calls. That might make you think it's "safer", but it's still the same people, so what would it matter? In other parts of DC people still get robbed/shot/etc, just like they do in Edmond, MWC, Yukon, etc. So don't think I'm trying to "ghetto" tag DC here.

4 - If I were you, I'd spend more time being concerned about the western border of DC just as much as the southern. DC could spread all the way to 240, and it wouldn't make that much of a difference in the city. It's a relatively small, locked island.

And since you're talking about 7-11's, think about your impression of NW OKC. Now, clear that out and check out reality. Off 122nd there is a 7-11. That store used to serve as an initiation point for gangs. Not only did they prey on the folks that worked there, but also an older member would initiate a younger one by picking a customer to have them mug...right there in the parking lot. People have been shot and killed in that parking lot as well.

which 122nd 7-11, the one at penn or may?

[Bazooka Joe]

There was a discussion on the LiveWire the other day and this was brought up by a person that was recently looking for a house in the area.

I am talking about SE 44th between Sunnylane and Sooner. North side is Del City and south side is OKC. Well, this person told me that the south side is actually Del City, but will show up as OKC. This person also mentioned that OKC actually start at the southwest corner of SE 44th and Sunnylane.

Which is it? Does Del City actually own the entire block south of 44th?

Also to ponder is the First Baptist Church still maintain their Del City address even being on the MWC side.

My apartment address is OKC, but I know that Del City tend to show up as OKC for Postal Services. I just want to know for sure what city I am actually living within.

south of 44th street is OKC, however, it remains a mystery why the post office at 44th and sunnylane says Del City??

[evh5150]

blah, blah, blah..."the 7-11 at sooner is scary" blah, blah, blah.

i dont want to hear any rants from anyone who never lived in the area and has only stopped in there a time or two to get gas or smokes.

i actually LIVED off 44th and sooner for 7 straight years (in two of those ghetto complexes off of 44th and sunnylane=3 yrs at cherry hill, and 4 years at park forest), and i frequented that 7-11 many times...mostly between the hours of 11pm and 5am (because of my work shift).

but ive also been in there so many times, that ive pretty much been inside of it during all hours of the day and night. most of what ive seen is military employees, mini-van soccer moms and people that seem to be passing thru. yeah, ive seen ghetto people that some could stereotype and classify as being the type that could rob the place in an instant, but those images come crashing down when they whip out their billfold to pay for their purchases and then tell the clerk to take care and have a nice day/night.

if this store gets knocked over once in a while, it gets knocked over. banks get robbed, grocery stores get robbed. convienence stores just have the initial rep of being "the place for robberies", and most of that may have been true in years past, and the image lives on due to tv shows. i think banks get robbed more. the homeland grocery (that was) at 44th and sunnylane had more crime at it than this 7-11 did (which is why they moved up to 29th).


people like to make this sort of assumption that just cause a 7-11 is nestled by apartment complexes that are delapitated that it must be a bad 7-11, and if said 7-11 gets knocked over a time or two by a theif, then that reinforces their intial stereotype about the physical condition of the dated apartment complexes (and its purported residents) nearby as being "ghetto"

shut the hell up.

crime happens all over the metroplex, every suburb, every neighborhood, and not every crime that happens makes the front cover of a newpaper and/or online discussion or police blotter.

i know of scarier convienence stores, much more "ghetto" looking than this sooner 7-11 that simply is nestled next to old apartment complexes built back in the 70s and 80s, and even the 7-11 itself has the older style design no longer used by 7-11.

the 7-11 in mwc at 10th and woodside has a more reknown rep for crime than does this sooner 7-11 which sits to the western side of the fence of the state's largest employer.

for the record, 7-11 corporation itself is based in an actual "ghetto" area...Dallas' Oak Cliff.

[rcjunkie]

blah, blah, blah..."the 7-11 at sooner is scary" blah, blah, blah.

i dont want to hear any rants from anyone who never lived in the area and has only stopped in there a time or two to get gas or smokes.

i actually LIVED off 44th and sooner for 7 straight years (in two of those ghetto complexes off of 44th and sunnylane=3 yrs at cherry hill, and 4 years at park forest), and i frequented that 7-11 many times...mostly between the hours of 11pm and 5am (because of my work shift).

but ive also been in there so many times, that ive pretty much been inside of it during all hours of the day and night. most of what ive seen is military employees, mini-van soccer moms and people that seem to be passing thru. yeah, ive seen ghetto people that some could stereotype and classify as being the type that could rob the place in an instant, but those images come crashing down when they whip out their billfold to pay for their purchases and then tell the clerk to take care and have a nice day/night.

if this store gets knocked over once in a while, it gets knocked over. banks get robbed, grocery stores get robbed. convienence stores just have the initial rep of being "the place for robberies", and most of that may have been true in years past, and the image lives on due to tv shows. i think banks get robbed more. the homeland grocery (that was) at 44th and sunnylane had more crime at it than this 7-11 did (which is why they moved up to 29th).


people like to make this sort of assumption that just cause a 7-11 is nestled by apartment complexes that are delapitated that it must be a bad 7-11, and if said 7-11 gets knocked over a time or two by a theif, then that reinforces their intial stereotype about the physical condition of the dated apartment complexes (and its purported residents) nearby as being "ghetto"

shut the hell up.

crime happens all over the metroplex, every suburb, every neighborhood, and not every crime that happens makes the front cover of a newpaper and/or online discussion or police blotter.

i know of scarier convienence stores, much more "ghetto" looking than this sooner 7-11 that simply is nestled next to old apartment complexes built back in the 70s and 80s, and even the 7-11 itself has the older style design no longer used by 7-11.

the 7-11 in mwc at 10th and woodside has a more reknown rep for crime than does this sooner 7-11 which sits to the western side of the fence of the state's largest employer.

for the record, 7-11 corporation itself is based in an actual "ghetto" area...Dallas' Oak Cliff.

Wrong 7-11 corporation, the Dallas 7-11 Co. has nothing to do with the OKC 7-11 CO. The OKC 7-11 Co. offices are located at SW 20th and MacArthur.

[Thunder]

evh, I love your post. I agree, some of these posters need to shut the hell up. They know nothing and are purely pathetic.

bombermwc, I agree with you. I've been at that place so many times when I was younger. Never once have I, my brother, our mother, and her friend ever encounter things that some of the posters on here is implying. Mom's friend used to live there and there have been times that her friend watched us (babysitter?).

All the stupid posts about how bad these apartment complexes is a bunch of joke.

[evh5150]

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Wrong 7-11 corporation, the Dallas 7-11 Co. has nothing to do with the OKC 7-11 CO. The OKC 7-11 Co. offices are located at SW 20th and MacArthur.

i realize this, sherlock..and i can prepare a lot more things in my kitchen than breakfast cereal.

if i need to spell this out to you, i guess i will.

if it wasnt for the Dallas based 7-11 there would never be any other 7-11s anywhere else at all.

7-Eleven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Redskin 70]

Would any Body care to discuses the ghetto apts called Silvercrest in MWC????????????

Their also a jewel in the ruff and I am sure that MWC would just love to see them flourish........
pleaze, dont keep blowing smoke about the Ghetto Oakridge.......Its a dangerous, gang infested trash hole that cant even keep owner ship for more than a year.

[bombermwc]

A-Freakin-Men Evh and Thunder. I'm glad to see someone that DOESN'T make stupid stereotype comments without having any idea what they are talking about.

[rcjunkie]

i realize this, sherlock..and i can prepare a lot more things in my kitchen than breakfast cereal.

if i need to spell this out to you, i guess i will.

if it wasnt for the Dallas based 7-11 there would never be any other 7-11s anywhere else at all.

7-Eleven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My My, are we testy or what ? Sounds as though someone pissed in the cereal you claim to prepare!!

[Bazooka Joe]

Would any Body care to discuses the ghetto apts called Silvercrest in MWC????????????

Their also a jewel in the ruff and I am sure that MWC would just love to see them flourish........
pleaze, dont keep blowing smoke about the Ghetto Oakridge.......Its a dangerous, gang infested trash hole that cant even keep owner ship for more than a year.

eh, Silvercrest is simply old. how old? they were quite settled in even back as early as 1980. Ghetto? maybe a little, but unless youve got substantial evidence to support such a claim we will simply leave them as being delapitated at best.

The string of apartments along Midwest Blvd, just north of 10th street have more of a street cred as being more ghetto than Silvercrest.

[realtorchris]

I am thankful for the OnQue coming to Sooner and 29th so that I will have a nice, clean fresh new store to visit. The pitiful 7-11 had a pathetic remodel at some point last year that consisted of a new island for the cash registers. I encourage all people to utilize and shop exclusively at OnQue as they seem to want to provide a nice store, like the QTrips in Tulsa and Texas!

[Redskin 70]

eh, Silvercrest is simply old. how old? they were quite settled in even back as early as 1980. Ghetto? maybe a little, but unless youve got substantial evidence to support such a claim we will simply leave them as being delapitated at best.

The string of apartments along Midwest Blvd, just north of 10th street have more of a street cred as being more ghetto than Silvercrest.

Sorry, I know to many MWC Cops, its ghetto............

[Bazooka Joe]

Sorry, I know to many MWC Cops, its ghetto............

but how many of these cops do you know that actually live in any of these ghetto complexes? Chances are, most cops reside in more affluent areas of town, reside in towns other than the one they hold jurisdiction in, or have been transferred in from other precincts and hold no true knowledge of the city they serve and protect other than the word they get from their department.

[easternobserver]

um, or they know from responding to calls there....

[Redskin 70]

but how many of these cops do you know that actually live in any of these ghetto complexes? Chances are, most cops reside in more affluent areas of town, reside in towns other than the one they hold jurisdiction in, or have been transferred in from other precincts and hold no true knowledge of the city they serve and protect other than the word they get from their department.

Ya rally don't have to live in a place to know its a drug and gang infested whore livin slum heap. out of town shyster land lord ghetto,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hope that clears it up for ya.

Frankly I would be more inclined to take the word off numerous cops over a person on the internet who purports to have lived their once upon a time,

[bombermwc]

I wouldn't neccessarily use a police officer's judgement as a scale. They get the unfortunate duty of dealing with the worst residents in areas. They don't get to see all the good people that live somewhere. If you only saw the bad in a place, don't you think you'd have a predisposition to make a blanket statement like that? I lived in Parkview on Reno for a while, you talk to people and they think it's crap like they call so many in MWC. You know what, it was extremely quiet, my neighbors were nice, my maintenance wasn't terrible, I had a clean apartment, and the mngmt held everyone to some pretty good rules on keeping things up. I don't know if they same people own it now, but they were replacing all the roofs/fences/painting exterirors when I was there. Kids played in the grassy areas every day. The pool was closed, but id just assume keep it that way in an apt. complex. That cheap rent allowed me to make a large enough down payment on my house that I avoided mortgage insurance on a 10 year old home, so i consider it a great experience.

I've known people that work in several towns in the municipal sectors, and each of them say "you wouldn't catch me living in that town", meaning the town they work in. So take that as the same as a police perspective. When someone lives in Moore, works in Norman, and says "if you only knew what happens in Norman". Now you don't really think Norman is crap do you? It's just what people see in their world, shapes their opinion. Doesn't make is accurate in a broader view though.

[mmonroe]

well ****, i just wouldn't live in any of those places if i had my choice. i wouldn't mind seeing all of them torn down, they're just not aesthetically pleasing.

[kay]

Did you know that the crappy apartments on Bryant and one of the crappy places on 44th are owned by the same owner? Someone in Utah....love those absentee landlords. The other crappy place on 44th is owned by the same guy who owned the Del City apartments that got shut down. Another absentee landlord. These people dont care about the towns they wreck, only about making money. There should be some way to hold them accountable....like the old sitcom episodes -- make the slumlords, and their families, live in thier properties for a month every time a violation is found.

Del City has implimented a very good Housing Inspection program to keep landlords from renting or selling unsafe and unsanitary property. I do believe this applies to apartments too. The current owner and the new tenant or owner must apply together for a certificate of occupancy using property maintenance code. If the property is unsafe or unsanitary water service can't be established. It will take some time to allow for enough change of hands in property to make Del city an unpopular place to be a slum lord. Midwest city is looking into the same system.

Any chance that someone could contact 7-11 and try to get them to put some improvement into the existing stores? Maybe offer some sort of reward or incentive? Tax revenue at the older stores would probably go up if they were nicer -- or maybe not if the thug lifes who buy one little cigar at a time stayed away.

The 7-11 on Key off 15th is currently being rebuilt where Henry Hudson's was. It looks like they are working on improving their stores.

[Redskin 70]

I've known people that work in several towns in the municipal sectors, and each of them say "you wouldn't catch me living in that town", meaning the town they work in. So take that as the same as a police perspective. When someone lives in Moore, works in Norman, and says "if you only knew what happens in Norman". Now you don't really think Norman is crap do you? It's just what people see in their world, shapes their opinion. Doesn't make is accurate in a broader view though.

Well than, why do so many on this forum tell people to avoid Del city cause its a ghetto? And that from people who have never lived there. Your logic only goes so far before it becomes problamatic..........

Regarding Norman, just depends how the sooners are doing that season/