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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    No---- they clearly do not have nearly enough equipment to do the job in a timely way.

    When a very high percentage of area population is unable to work or shop for several days unplowed roads cost our city, county and state governments far more money than the cost of removal.

    When sanitation trucks are idled by a storm they could easily be equipped with plows until normal service can be restored.
    Talk about a waste of tax dollars, spends 100's of thousands on snow plows for a once in 20 year snow storm, there's more practical ways to spend the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjunkie View Post
    Talk about a waste of tax dollars, spends 100's of thousands on snow plows for a once in 20 year snow storm, there's more practical ways to spend the money.
    Maybe you've been spending too much time at the lake rc, you're "once in 20 year snow storm" seems to be almost a yearly deal around here lately. As someone who can't take off work because the roads are too bad, I went out and bought a 4wd truck after the last couple of years of having to hitch rides with fellow workers who had one. Haven't felt the need for one since I was in my early 20's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambo36 View Post
    Maybe you've been spending too much time at the lake rc, you're "once in 20 year snow storm" seems to be almost a yearly deal around here lately. As someone who can't take off work because the roads are too bad, I went out and bought a 4wd truck after the last couple of years of having to hitch rides with fellow workers who had one. Haven't felt the need for one since I was in my early 20's.
    Wrong again (some things never change), last year was ice (which snow plows and 4 wheel drive vehicles are useless), this time it was mostly snow. I drive a 2 wheel drive Tahoe and have yet to have any problems driving anywhere I wish to go, guess I'm not only more educated on City finaces, but also a better driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjunkie View Post
    Wrong again (some things never change), last year was ice (which snow plows and 4 wheel drive vehicles are useless), this time it was mostly snow. I drive a 2 wheel drive Tahoe and have yet to have any problems driving anywhere I wish to go, guess I'm not only more educated on City finaces, but also a better driver.
    Wow junkie, nice to see you back to your old form and winning personality. I guess you got over getting your feelings hurt every time you got on here. Anyhoo, as someone who gets to respond to emergencies in this weather, I can assure you that it was way more than ice last year. Maybe you don't remember because you were sitting at the lake during last years storm, as I recall. And by the way, if you're as adept at driving as you are accurate about city finances, I'm suprised you still have a license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambo36 View Post
    Wow junkie, nice to see you back to your old form and winning personality. I guess you got over getting your feelings hurt every time you got on here. Anyhoo, as someone who gets to respond to emergencies in this weather, I can assure you that it was way more than ice last year. Maybe you don't remember because you were sitting at the lake during last years storm, as I recall. And by the way, if you're as adept at driving as you are accurate about city finances, I'm suprised you still have a license.
    Oh crap, your working in this weather, that's just great, now all we'll hear for the next month is "how great we are, we need new and better equipment for the next storm, we need more money because we work in inclement weather and put ourselves in harms way, wah wah wah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjunkie View Post
    Oh crap, your working in this weather, that's just great, now all we'll hear for the next month is "how great we are, we need new and better equipment for the next storm, we need more money because we work in inclement weather and put ourselves in harms way, wah wah wah.
    Have you ever worked for extended periods (as in all day) outside as an adult for pay in a blizzards where lives depend on your decisions?
    And if so in what capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    Have you ever worked for extended periods (as in all day) outside as an adult for pay in a blizzards where lives depend on your decisions?
    And if so in what capacity?
    No, but if I did, I wouldn't pretend to be greater than thou and resort to name calling when someone disagreed with my opinion.

    What station do you work at ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjunkie View Post
    Oh crap, your working in this weather, that's just great, now all we'll hear for the next month is "how great we are, we need new and better equipment for the next storm, we need more money because we work in inclement weather and put ourselves in harms way, wah wah wah.
    You're letting that inferiority complex show.LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambo36 View Post
    You're letting that inferiority complex show.LOL

    No, your letting your Superiority Complex Show, as you always do. You just get upset because some refuse to bow at your presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjunkie View Post
    Talk about a waste of tax dollars, spends 100's of thousands on snow plows for a once in 20 year snow storm, there's more practical ways to spend the money.
    You may spend a few hundred thousand to buy plows. But you already have the sanitation trucks and personnel who are typically doing next to nothing in a bad storm. You would easily save millions in lost tax revenue by getting a good size percentage of your population back to work and out shopping quicker.

    Increasing very slow emergency response times and saving lives has its own value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    You may spend a few hundred thousand to buy plows. But you already have the sanitation trucks and personnel who are typically doing next to nothing in a bad storm. You would easily save millions in lost tax revenue by getting a good size percentage of your population back to work and out shopping quicker.

    Increasing very slow emergency response times and saving lives has its own value.
    There's probably a cost-benefit analysis someone has done somewhere. If it snows x number of times a year, you can justify spending x number of dollars. The biggest problem in Oklahoma is that we've had two bad snowstorms in two years, but there are years when it never snows. You'd also then have to factor in the life of plows, storage, maintenance, etc. You may be right.....it may be worth it and I think it's clever to add a plow to a sanitation truck, but it is also possible we could go a long time before needing them again.

    You could do what I did and move downtown so you can walk everywhere when it snows! I just got back from the Ford Center and walked to Coffee Slingers this morning. If I didn't happen to have just finished my 16 day stint at work and have a couple of days off, I could have walked to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betts View Post
    There's probably a cost-benefit analysis someone has done somewhere. If it snows x number of times a year, you can justify spending x number of dollars. The biggest problem in Oklahoma is that we've had two bad snowstorms in two years, but there are years when it never snows. You'd also then have to factor in the life of plows, storage, maintenance, etc. You may be right.....it may be worth it and I think it's clever to add a plow to a sanitation truck, but it is also possible we could go a long time before needing them again.

    You could do what I did and move downtown so you can walk everywhere when it snows! I just got back from the Ford Center and walked to Coffee Slingers this morning. If I didn't happen to have just finished my 16 day stint at work and have a couple of days off, I could have walked to work.
    Good post
    IMO It’s not so much the number of events as it is the time that it shuts down commerce.
    How much does it cost the local economy when local business has unscheduled closures for days at time? Just a guess and I could be wrong but it’s got to be well over one hundred million for 3 days of lost work. It would be a good idea to ask our local business about how much they lost during this event.
    In Norman where in live I can recall 4 snow’s where shut things down in the past 10 or so years.
    If we don’t use the plows that often the life of plows without accident and with good maintenance is a very long time. During the off season many people put a thick layer of grease on their plows.
    There is a blade on the bottom of a plow that needs replacement fairly often.

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