2019 Oklahoma City Aviation Thread

[no1cub17]

folks, this is an issue with the new auto-pilot that Boeing is debuing in the MAX program. This is evidence by the fact that auto-pilot is switched on shortly after successful departure (hence the often seen change in engine speed one observes) and that the faulty planes both pitched up then down and again before crashing - indicating the pilots were not able to disengage autopilot to recover.

This has nothing to do with 3rd world countries or airlines, this is a manufacturer and (possible) FAA certification issues; more evidence that less government is NOT always better. The FAA let Boeing self police this new autopilot. ........ Enough said.

Yup. It's weird right? If the ET and JT crashes were this easily chalked up to being from third world countries because this would never happen to us in big, bad America, then why is Boeing inviting pilots from AA/UA to test the software changes? It should be a complete non-issue for the US-based pilots, right? Seems to me like the 737 MAX is a fundamentally unstable plane, which is literally the opposite of what you want for a passenger aircraft.

[PhiAlpha]

Yup. It's weird right? If the ET and JT crashes were this easily chalked up to being from third world countries because this would never happen to us in big, bad America, then why is Boeing inviting pilots from AA/UA to test the software changes? It should be a complete non-issue for the US-based pilots, right? Seems to me like the 737 MAX is a fundamentally unstable plane, which is literally the opposite of what you want for a passenger aircraft.

You keep taking such a huge offense to that but pilot error and over reliance on autopilot by third world pilots was a big part of it. Straight from a friend of mine that is fairly high up at AA... the pilots union knew about the autopilot glitch but their pilots knew how to easily avoid it due to the fact that US based pilots are better trained and are less reliant on autopilot/better able to handle adversity than foreign pilots. That is fact, not racism as you seem to be hell bent on claiming over and over again. It is harder to get a pilots license in the US, harder to get a commercial pilots license here, and US based airlines require more rigorous additional training than most foreign airlines do, especially those based out of third world countries.

[no1cub17]

You keep taking such a huge offense to that but pilot error and over reliance on autopilot by third world pilots was a big part of it. Straight from a friend of mine that is fairly high up at AA... the pilots union knew about the autopilot glitch but their pilots knew how to easily avoid it due to the fact that US based pilots are better trained and are less reliant on autopilot/better able to handle adversity than foreign pilots. That is fact, not racism as you seem to be hell bent on claiming over and over again. It is harder to get a pilots license in the US, harder to get a commercial pilots license here, and US based airlines require more rigorous additional training than most foreign airlines do, especially those based out of third world countries.

Hilarious - by that logic, France and South Korea must also be third world countries, right? US based pilots are better? Oh really? What happened to AA587? What happened to CO3407? What happened to DL5191? Must've been third world country pilots, right?

You know literally nothing about the training standards in other countries, yet here you are passing judgment. Are there incompetent pilots abroad? But news flash, there have been many crashes caused by pilot error in the US too. Hard to believe but it's true.

[PhiAlpha]

Hilarious - by that logic, France and South Korea must also be third world countries, right? US based pilots are better? Oh really? What happened to AA587? What happened to CO3407? What happened to DL5191? Must've been third world country pilots, right?

You know literally nothing about the training standards in other countries, yet here you are passing judgment. Are there incompetent pilots abroad? But news flash, there have been many crashes caused by pilot error in the US too. Hard to believe but it's true.

Yep I know nothing...