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Cain's and the Brady are still getting great shows but this past two years have been the least I've wanted to go up there for shows. Even the maligned Criterion gets killer shows the one or two times...

Would that scenario be good or bad for us dummies?

If you like Stop Making Sense you need to check out Documentary Now's parody episode of it.

I don't know why these stores closed but I do know soaring rent prices weren't the reason.

The city owns the arena. I think this bond was about maintenance to the structure not improvements that necessarily make money for the Thunder. I could wrong though.

To be completely fair, the Criterion (when they do book shows) is still booking shows that are much bigger gets than the Tower. That is not a knock on the Tower because I'm blown away with how well...

Don't disagree at all. I'm definitely not defending them. Just saying that the few shows they do book are the types you would hope for in this venue.

For all the grief The Criterion gets (and it is probably earned), when they are booking shows they are the exact kind of shows you would hope for. They are definitely filling a void.

Not sure Tulsa is a non-Big 12 city. If Tulsa is non-Big 12 then so is OKC.

There are currently only 4 Big 12 schools that wrestle so they merged with another conference so they could have a full...

Yeah it is weird that it is so hit and miss. I've been to the place for three different shows and haven't had any issues getting drinks.

It doesn't look good for the venue but we also don't know what went on behind the scenes. Apparently the tour has had issues other places.

The concert was amazing last night.

As for the bookings, to me it is concerning but I also have no idea on how the music business works. Most of the acts they have booked thus far have been top...

Just to add some perspective, I've been to two shows and they've both been amazing experiences.

If you are into the type of music Isbell does then you will love him. IMO, he is about the best guy out there right now doing what he does. I'm extremely, extremely pumped for this.

Spot on. At first there was concern that it would be "low income housing" and now 20 reply later the debate is that there are no good jobs in OKC so no one can afford to live there. Some of these...

There is already some NIMBY opposition to apartments being built there. I know it is a vocal minority but as a newish resident (almost two years) to the neighborhood it gets old.

Oh I'm with you 100%. I just think the BOK show was announced first. I imagine everyone who is a fan went out and bought tickets for that show. I would have but I was traveling and missed the...

I didn't realize Isbell was playing BOK a couple days before. He should be a massive show for the Criterion but I wonder if that will hurt ticket sales.

I was at Sturgill. There were some small issues (you can tell they are still working on some kinks) but I can't believe anyone could have gone to that show and came away with that opinion. There were...

I'm amazed by any teacher who has taught in the district for more than 3 years and isn't jaded.

I'm not sure comparing Bartlesville to OKC is exactly fair.

I believe you. I'm just saying I'm not sure he changed much yet as far as the day-to-day classroom. I'm married to an OKC teacher and she didn't have a great opinion on the guy. However, I can't...

He wasn't here long enough to even know really. I don't have a strong opinion on him either way but I don't think he is the worst of the recent ones and I don't think he was here long enough to make...

Dead serious and I didn't mean it as some kind of slam. I'm just saying these are well known acts. If you haven't even heard of most of these bands then I doubt there are going to be a lot of shows...

If you've never heard of any of these bands then I'm guessing a place the size of the Criterion was never really going to cater to the type of artists you listen to (and there is nothing wrong with...