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Well, that would certainly be insane.

Oh I know it wasn't your main point. When you said "if one discounts science" it reminds me that there's a substantial amount of Americans that believe scientists (who have been educated in their...

haha no, that's an odd assumption. I'm not trying to start anything or be rude, but if one "discounts science" and believes the earth is only ~10,000 years old, they are laughably wrong. I'm not...

Of course some one has to make this baseless statement.

Do you believe this is a normal thought process for teenagers today? This was an isolated incident involving sociopaths. These have been happening since human existence.

Charles Starkweather -...

If Kevin was solely asserting that firearms were not the only tool that they could have used to relieve their boredom, I would have refrained from responding, as that is a blatantly obvious...

First off, thank you for actually discussing this with me. I believe that I didn't misinterpret his initial point, which can be summarized by



My follow up statement, about legalizing more...

Oh. I apologize. I didn't realize you referring to something so vague. Your proceeding statement was referring to people arguing from "the other side," so I assumed you were still in that line of...

I initially joined this thread because Kevin Pate made the following statement



I believe it's not fair to equate a gun to "any other tool" when the tools he listed are not nearly as...

1) Your analogies aren't accurate comparisons
2) I'm arguing that guns are more deadly than other "tools," because a firearm is a weapon. Yes, you can use a pencil as a weapon, but it is not as...

Also, stupidity and fanaticism are a result of ignorance. I'm not quite sure what you meant by this statement but it's based on nothing.

You all might find it interesting that I said the following in post #168

I gave you my reasoning behind the word and why I used it correctly. "I'm right because I say I'm right." Doesn't win arguments. Unfortunately, I have learned it is impossible to have a rational...

No, I cannot project a day when guns would reach that point. However that is only more reason to look into gun control talks more seriously. I haven't reached a firm position on either side of the...

Even if death is the measurement there is no reason to limit the capability or potency of something. "Capability," in the context I'm using it, isn't asking if an object can be used for murder. I'm...

I actually agree with the majority of your post. And I also agree that perhaps firearms have evolved and are not necessarily created anymore for the sole purpose of killing. However, guns have not...

Clearly you aren't capable of evaluating anything I said. Of course I realize my examples are dependent on how a tool is used. That is irrelevant. That is what I am trying to convey to you. What is...

I completely agree that the weapon isn't to blame, it's the person. However, that doesn't negate how lethal a weapon is. A gun is far more lethal than a baseball bat, or any other make shift weapon....

Don't assume I hate firearms. That's irrelevant to my argument, and my argument isn't opinion based, it is fact based. Firearms are weapons, and they are inherently more dangerous than most...

When I stated "lethal speeds" I assumed you would understand I was still referring to using a gun as a weapon. Yes, there are things that can shoot projectiles at lethal speeds that are not weapons,...

The premise of my argument was that a bat, a screw driver, and a gallon of gas are not created for the sole purpose of shooting a projectile at lethal speeds, because they're not weapons, and...

If we were to follow that logic, why don't we legalize automatic firearms, bombs, grenades; because after all, it's not the tool, it's the person. So it doesn't matter that a gun is significantly...

I realize this is all speculation, but is there any chance this could be bigger than Devon when it's all said and done? I know initial rumors were 40 floors, but do you think it's possible we could...

That's not what Pete said. Pete thinks the new tower will be solely for OG&E, and there will be a separate tower for the MLP.

Patrick I hate you and Just kidding. Haha I thought I'd join in.