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    Re: OKC Mayor Race 2014

    Cornett barely beat Hunt. You guys are in denial if you think he wins in a landslide. Cornett is a puppet. At least Shadid stands up for the people and what is right and makes sense. He is also not...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    No not really ok, but we told them they can.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Bricktown was actually a major catalyst in getting MAPS 1 to pass. Jim Brewer raised $50k in 3 days to give the chamber start up monies for the yes campaign because they didn't have the immediate...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    The reality is that is was written as such. Ask your councilman or Steve. The council has the ultimate right to change, modify, or abolish, with 5 votes on any Tuesday. Thats the way it was...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    When you voted for MAPS you gave them that right. Now your going against something you voted for. Thats how the ballot was written.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Its just not the time. More immediate concerns need to be addressed. Although not as "cool", if done right the people downtown could use BRT to accomplish
    the same goals as a streetcar would...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    I have been told by some influential people that this is the last as well because of this type of thinking. The citizens gave the city council the confidence to make
    changes as needed and that...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    The Hub selection is too small IMO. I'm for acquisition for the right reasons. This is a take for control ED case. There is no solidified use. It is already being used as a train depot with a lease...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    I'm a part of some concerned downtown stakeholders. Its looks good in theory. The devil is in the details. The populous voted for the MAPS
    Brand and the success we have had with it. They also gave...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Could be a combo of both. I just know it seems the tide is changing with city leaders, the council, AA, and Bricktown. Sounds like the only ones for it is Midtown. However, We definitely don't want...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    I understand all points. Just too many immediate transit needs and too many questions and unknowns out there to support a streetcar.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Maintenance ?, operation ?, tax increases ?, subsidies ?, etc ?, etc ?, Thats a whole other unknown.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    MAPS transit budget. Sorry I wasn't clear.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    I meant all the monies in the transit budget. The MAX in KC, A Look at BRT: The Kansas City MAX | Metro Jacksonville, is doing great and supports downtown KC. As for commuter rail, light rail, high...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    The streetcar concept has legs if done right at the right time. Their are more important needs to our city's transit than to use all of the monies to build a few miles
    of streetcar that might or...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Thats not what I experienced on the KC trip.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    OKC City Council please reconsider the streetcar and discuss a new sophisticated BRT downtown circulator with convenient and clean stops. Provide digital efficient frequency timing, great signage...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Sounds good in theory. But BRT is much more sophisticated than current busses, can react to pedestrian and cars needs, and can be more flexible. They are doing
    construction now on Sheridan. Go down...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Finally seeing the light. Keep digging Sid. This program has never been or will be about the riders/voters. Bricktown is overloaded with congestion on weekends and events. We do not need our streets...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    We'll just see what Harding and the Council have to say. Thats
    where the buck stops.
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    This has become a mess
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Absolutely
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Throwing fastballs. You must be nervous. Always 2 sides to every story. The Brewers want to sell and will be happy with whatever the price is as long as your dream comes to pass. I hope you and the...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    There was really no reason for leadership. Obviously you must be young and were not around at the time. I admire the passion for your agenda. I'm just trying to be rational and understand the...
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    Re: The Modern Streetcar and Commuter Transit Project in MAPS 3 Progresses

    Ok. I guess private property rights are based on what ifs, maybes, and wishes these days. I hope it works out. If it weren't for that sale in the first place we wouldn't even be having this...
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