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okieopus
05-01-2007, 10:55 AM
Hello friends,

I just wanted to let you all know about the wonderful experience I had on ExpressJet's new direct service to Albuquerque.

The plane was a regional jet, clean, quiet with leather seats.

Complimentary XM radio with free headphones. A full can of soda and....get this....FOOD

Free Sandwiches or Pasta, with Chips, Cookie, etc

Great service for the same price as American and half the time spent travelling.

Kudos all around.

:congrats: :congrats: :congrats:

Pete
05-01-2007, 11:10 AM
I'm really glad to hear this because they have non-stops between Los Angeles Ontario and OKC and schedule in advance, it's only about $200!

I hope to take advantage sometime this summer.

BDP
05-01-2007, 12:05 PM
How full was the flight, okieopus?

okieopus
05-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Not super full

there were about 20 people on both flights

MadMonk
05-01-2007, 01:55 PM
I wish they had flights to Vegas! I'm planning a trip in early August.

Oh GAWD the Smell!
05-01-2007, 03:14 PM
I'm really glad to hear this because they have non-stops between Los Angeles Ontario and OKC and schedule in advance, it's only about $200!

I hope to take advantage sometime this summer.

Really?

Holy crap!

I usually go out there at least once a year to visit, and since my mom is retiring from SWA really soon, I'm going to have to start paying for my flights, and THAT is a good deal right there.

mranderson
05-01-2007, 03:34 PM
Hello friends,

I just wanted to let you all know about the wonderful experience I had on ExpressJet's new direct service to Albuquerque.

The plane was a regional jet, clean, quiet with leather seats.

Complimentary XM radio with free headphones. A full can of soda and....get this....FOOD

Free Sandwiches or Pasta, with Chips, Cookie, etc

Great service for the same price as American and half the time spent travelling.

Kudos all around.

:congrats: :congrats: :congrats:

If ABQ (sorry, I have trouble spelling that city) is the closest major airport west. then how can the flight be direct? I HAS to be non stop.

soonerliberal
05-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Pardon me if I am wrong, but isn't direct synonymous with nonstop?

jbrown84
05-01-2007, 03:51 PM
What's ABQ, andy?

Oh GAWD the Smell!
05-01-2007, 03:53 PM
What's ABQ, andy?

Albuquerque.

jbrown84
05-01-2007, 04:08 PM
I know I'm just messing with him because he just moments before asked what "C2S" stood for when it was about ten words away from "Core to Shore".

Oh GAWD the Smell!
05-01-2007, 04:17 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines

:doh:

Karried
05-01-2007, 04:27 PM
Oh no, here we go again.. Direct/ Non-Stop argument for the umpteenth time.. everyone, please fasten your seatbelts for a bumpy ride.

jbrown84
05-01-2007, 04:27 PM
haha Karrie!

Oh GAWD the Smell!
05-01-2007, 04:29 PM
Oh no, here we go again.. Direct/ Non-Stop argument for the umpteenth time.. everyone, please fasten your seatbelts for a bumpy ride.

We should be okay, I don't think there are many items in the overhead bin on this one.

jbrown84
05-01-2007, 04:30 PM
hahahahahahaha

SWOKC 4 me
05-01-2007, 05:03 PM
How full was the flight, okieopus?

I know that on ONE flight they had a total of SIX passengers a few days ago. It is still early though and I hope things really pick up and they succeed here.

SWOKC 4 me

venture
05-01-2007, 09:32 PM
One thing to note...the service isn't a month old yet. Airline routes typically take 6 to as much as 18 months to develop. It is all about having patience...which ExpressJet likely will have. They are picking their routes very carefully...and will eventually see the benefits from them. The only thing that I wish would happen is more PR about this service. Anyone listening to Kiss FM knows we have charter service to Mexico now...how about the XJet cities?

XJet service is definitely high quality...and should hopefully become more and more successful as word spreads.

OUman
05-02-2007, 11:24 AM
Yeah, although the website has been updated with all the new XJet service and routes, the TV ads need to be updated as well (I dunno why WRA is still airing the LAX service ad). Radio stations-I haven't even once heard about the new XJet service.

Glad to know the loads picking up, the first day of the service it only had a handful of pax. With the product being this high quality, XJet should be pretty successful. My parents are flying down to Austin this month on XJet, should be interesting to see what they say.

Stinger
05-02-2007, 01:31 PM
They DO have great fairs. I just looked up a round trip from OKC to LA/Ont for 2 adults and an infant, non-stop and it was under $500.

scotplum
05-02-2007, 01:55 PM
If ABQ (sorry, I have trouble spelling that city) is the closest major airport west. then how can the flight be direct? I HAS to be non stop.

Why would anyone go to ABQ as I don't believe they even have professional sports teams? :beaten_fi

Karried
05-02-2007, 02:10 PM
tee hee

mranderson
05-02-2007, 05:10 PM
Why would anyone go to ABQ as I don't believe they even have professional sports teams? :beaten_fi

Actually, they DO have professional sports teams. The Isotopes for one.

Now. Back to topic.

AFCM
05-02-2007, 05:15 PM
Actually, they DO have professional sports teams. The Isotopes for one.

Now. Back to topic.

Back off topic. They were here just the other night...kicked the crap out of our Redhawks. Back on topic.

Pete
05-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Is this like shun/unshun ala Dwight Schute on The Office??? :)

writerranger
05-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Anderson, To answer your question about it being the nearest major city west, so how could it NOT be non-stop....(The implication being that there's nowhere else to stop) flies in the face of our history with flights to Albuquerque. Many of us have flown to Dallas to get to Albuquerque, or Denver to Albuquerque or even Kansas City to Albuquerque. That's how.

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Kerry
05-02-2007, 08:01 PM
OK - I'm putting an end to the maddness. There 3 types of flights; non-stop, direct, and connecting. Non-stop is from point A to point B without stoping in-between. Direct flight is from point A to point B with a stop in-between but no change of plane. Connecting is from A to B with one or more stops in-between and a change of plane.

Mr Anderson was just trying to point out that the flight to Albuquerque was non-stop, not direct. Can we move on now?

With some of the prices that have been stated on here I looked to see if I could get the family from JAX to OKC but they don't offer any connecting flights. I would have to buy two ticket for each person and have a long layover. To bad. BTW - I flew on one of the new Delta 757s last week and it was great. All leather seats and live Dish TV at every seat. Plus XM radio, free on-line CDs, and pay per view movies. Made the 45 minutes from ATL to JAX seem like 3 minutes.

scotplum
05-03-2007, 08:25 AM
Actually, they DO have professional sports teams. The Isotopes for one.

Now. Back to topic.


You never disappoint. :tiphat:

jbrown84
05-03-2007, 09:23 AM
Bait and switch.

Jen at Airports
05-04-2007, 10:27 AM
Hello! It was great to visit okctalk.com and see discussion about ExpressJet's new services out of Will Rogers World Airport. The airline launches service to Sacramento and San Diego on Monday. Media are on both flights, so maybe we'll hear some more first-hand accounts of the new service. Also, more ExpressJet ads will be out soon - perhaps as early as Monday, May 7. There have been print ads in local papers and there is a billboard on Meridian near Airport Road. Stay tuned for some very cool changes to flyokc.com in the coming months, too.

By the way, there were two Elvis impersonators on the ExpressJet flight arriving from Albuquerque the other day. I wish I'd had my camera.

brianinok
05-04-2007, 05:41 PM
Hi Jen! I assume you are the airport marketing director. If so, welcome. We're glad you've joined us at okctalk.com. I think most of us here think you are doing a great job in the short time you've been there. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to the website being updated and the changes you have planned.

venture
05-04-2007, 08:55 PM
Jen...ditto what Brian said. WELCOME! You have definitely helped push things along from a public perspective.Just two things that I would throw out there now...America West is dead, I think it is time to replace it with US Airways finally on the site. ;) The other...is there a plan to get the word out about XJet? Would hate to see it fail like Allegiant did...though I sill think we need them back with services to Florida that we dont have here.

OUman
05-05-2007, 12:28 PM
The other...is there a plan to get the word out about XJet?



Also, more ExpressJet ads will be out soon - perhaps as early as Monday, May 7. There have been print ads in local papers and there is a billboard on Meridian near Airport Road. Stay tuned for some very cool changes to flyokc.com in the coming months, too.


;)
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On another note, welcome to OKCTalk, it's great to have someone from our airport providing feedback and discussion, also, thank you for the great job you've been doing so far on the airport website with respect to the press releases and such. I noticed the terminal maps and a few other things need to be updated, but I'm assuming they'll be part of the changes you mentioned upcoming on flyokc.com.

venture
05-06-2007, 01:04 AM
Wow I'm glad I can read. It was a long Friday. LOL

Pete
05-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Yes, Jen is in fact the new PR & Marketing Director for the Department of Airports. And she's promised various website updates are on the way.

Here's a thread with more information:

http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/6871-airport-expansion-news-5.html

HOT ROD
05-09-2007, 07:52 PM
Jenn, welcome to OKCTalk, as others have welcomed you.

I do hope that you stop by often as this group on this forum usually has excellent ideas and prospectives that will assist you in your position. You are one of the KEY representatives of Oklahoma City (visibility wise) and definitely I am elated to have you as a member of this forum.

Congratulations on you new job and I wish you the best because it will mean the best for Oklahoma City!!!! Keep up the good work, but yes...

We need to get the word out on this and ALL service from Oklahoma City. I think some dollars could be well spent in OKC/Tulsa/Lawton/Wichita/Little Rock/Amarillo/Falls/SW MO/NW AR about OKC's very nice and expanding selection of service; and also make it easy for them to get to/from the airport.

Hopefully - we can get our numbers up above 4m this year, and we should set additional goals out in future years as well.

Kudos!

Doug Loudenback
05-26-2007, 09:12 PM
A friend who lives in San Antonio told me that ExpressJet might be planning an Okc/Corpus Christi direct flight.

Anyone know anything about that?

Doug Loudenback
05-27-2007, 12:00 AM
Venture79, in this thread, http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/8880-expressjet-start-n-s-service-okc.html?highlight=expressjet#post83412 , you mentioned something about Corpus but I'm uncertain of the context. From ExpressJet's published routes, the only Corpus flight is Austin-Corpus.

As far as "trip reports" are concerned, I found this one at statesman.com | Guest blog: Lilly Rockwell Meanders | Anders Meanders (http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/andersmeanders/entries/2007/05/26/guest_blog_lilly_rockwell_mean.html) , for what it's worth:


Guest blog: Lilly Rockwell Meanders
By Helen Anders | Saturday, May 26, 2007, 03:13 PM

Hello! This is Lilly Rockwell, a business reporter for the Austin American-Statesman. Travel writer Helen Anders was kind enough to let me guest-blog about my first trip on ExpressJet, a new airline in Austin.

Iím in a long-distance relationship, and my boyfriend lives in Florida. We try and visit each other about every six weeks. Needless to say, our trips to see each other often involve expensive airfare and unnecessary stops in cities like Dallas, Houston and Atlanta.

So when I heard about ExpressJet, a new airline that provides service from Austin to cities like Tucson, Ariz. and Jacksonville, Fla., I jumped at the chance to book my first flight.

I bought a ticket for about $270 round-trip from Austin to Jacksonville. I actually needed to get to Tallahassee, Fla., but at three hours away, Jacksonville didnít seem so bad.

ExpresJet promises to be more than an ordinary airline. Borrowing a page from JetBlue, ExpressJet added a few amenities to make it stand out against competitors. It offers free XM satellite radio! Actual meals and snacks! And leather seats!

When I boarded my flight Friday night, I was surprised to see it was almost full. I got seat 1A, right next to the flight attendantís pull-down seat and a step away from the cockpit. The leather felt great, although the seat didnít feel especially roomy.

Right away I noticed the XM satellite radio in my armrest, but I wasnít able to use it until the flight attendant passed out headphones after we were flying at a comfortable altitude. When I finally got ahold of some headphones, I found it was difficult to hear the music over the roar of the engine. I chose ďSounds of the í90sĒ and could only faintly make out Sheryl Crow crooning about ďwanting to have some fun.Ē

When meal time rolled around, about thirty minutes into the 2 1/2-hour flight, I was disappointed to learn ExpressJet only had turkey sandwiches. As a vegetarian, I declined and settled on some water and Oreo cookies.

The rest of the flight was uneventful. We landed right on time, and I found my bag easily after a 20-minute wait.

I have to say, the best part of the flight was that it was non-stop. Even though ExpressJet promises to be different from other airlines, it didnít feel much different than if I were on Continental or Delta.

Iíll probably travel ExpressJet again, given the reasonable price and direct flights. But if youíre expecting a dazzling experience, you might be disappointed.
Although I could find nothing at either ExpressJet website ( ExpressJet (http://xjet.com/) or ExpressJet Holdings (http://expressjet.com/) ) which posted detailed info about schedules and/or fares ... the websites need a LOT of work..., it does appear from other internet sources that with advance booking the pre-tax round-trip fare for 1 adult from Okc to Ontario, CA is just under $200, which is a heck of a deal. I tried to book a trip at ExpressJet's website where one should be able to do that ( ExpressJet (http://xjet.com/) ), so that I could see what the final cost would be ... but in the 5x that I tried to do that, an error was reported and so I got no better info. At least tonight, it appears impossible to book a flight at ExpressJet's websites on-line, at least out of Okc. (I also tried Okc to Austin and Okc to San Antonio, with the same results I got for Okc to Ontario, CA.)

This link at ExpressJet shows its present destinations, I think ... Destinations (http://xjet.com/menu/whyxjet/destinations.htm) ... I'd paste them here but I didn't see anything new vis a vis Okc beyond what has already been stated in this Okc Talk thread: http://www.okctalk.com/okc-metro-area-talk/8880-expressjet-start-n-s-service-okc.html . A pretty nice interactive "route" map is here: Route Map (http://xjet.com/menu/whyxjet/routemap.htm) but the route map does not show whether flights to/from Okc are "direct" or, better, "non-stop" flights.

My wife and I are looking to visit her brohter in Camarillo, CA, in July (Camarillo is just a bit north of Los Angeles).

If you're like me, you have no clue as to where Ontario, CA, is ... the pic below shows the relative locations of Ontario, CA, and LAX, and my ultimate destination, Camarillo.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/ontarioLAX.jpg

Trying to compare but with incomplete data, I had a look at United's non-stop service from Okc to LAX and back ...

United's non-stop flight 6442 leaves Okc at 4:24 and arrives at LAX at 5:22, a 2 hours 58 min flight, and it's return flight is similar. The cost, booking ahead to July, seems to be about $460 per person ... which I think includes taxes and other charges, while the JetExperess data, above at just under $200 per person, does not.

I have no clue about the variances between flying speed of a big jet compared to the smaller planes that JetExpress uses. But, in all of the above JetExpress cases but one, flight times are very comparable (I'm guessing, but the 1st Ontario-Okc flight is probably non-stop, maybe stopping in Albuquerque ... another guess).

If I've interpreted what I've read correctly (deparure time and arrival times = actual time in that city), the Okc-Ontario, CA schedules and time to/there are:

United's Non-Stop Service

From ... Depart ... Arrive
Okc...... 4:24 p....5:20 p (2 hours 58 min)
Ont...... 11:00 a..3:53 p (2 hours 53 min)

JetExpress

From ... Depart ... Arrive
Okc...... 7:30 a.....8:28 a (2 hours 58 min)
Okc...... 3:20 p.....5:24 p (2 hours 4 min)
Ont...... 8:00 a.....1:48 p (3 hours 48 min)
Ont...... 4:50 p.....9:43 p (2 hours 53 min)

As said above, United's non-stop flight 6442 leaves Okc at 4:24 and arrives at LAX at 5:22, a 2 hours 58 min flight. In all of the above JetExpress cases but one, flight times are very comparable if not better (I'm guessing, but the 1st Ontario-Okc flight above is probably not non-stop, maybe stopping in Albuquerque ... just another guess).

If my "research above is even reasonably correct, you'll save big bucks using JetExpress, regardless of other issues such as amenities and "engine noise" and you might even get to where you're going in a shorter amount of time using JetExpress.

Maybe I've got something wrong ... and Venture79 and/or others who are knowelegeable will hopefully step in and make any needed corrections.

venture
05-27-2007, 01:49 AM
Doug,

The Corpus reference is just where I could see additional service be added to, should things work out well.

As far as the ExpressJet flights...the flight that departs at 320PM makes a stop in ABQ. Now with speed and comfort? It may be a toss up between the two. Now remember the United flight is operated by SkyWest - so its actually United Express using the CRJ-700...70 seater jet. Now I don't think the United flight is one of the birds outfitted with the first class section (like they are trying to do now on the larger regional jets)...so it may be the standard all coach config with the 31-32" seat pitch. ExpressJet will be about the same, but it is only 3 across setting 1 seat-aisle-2 seats. ExpressJet also has inflight entertainment, whereas United does not (Frontier would be the only other airline service OKC that does). Not to mention, ExpressJet will actually feed you on the flight too. :)

More likely than not you will save a good deal of money with them. As far as cabin noise...having been on both aircraft, it is a wash. They both have the rear-mounted jets which definitely helps keep the bulk of the noise to the back.

I really want to try them out fairly soon, I just need an excuse to fly somewhere.

Doug Loudenback
05-27-2007, 09:11 AM
Thanks, Venture.

From what you said, I also see that I counted flight-time wrong for the 3:20 Okc departure in my post. I said ...

United's Non-Stop Service

From ... Depart ... Arrive
Okc...... 4:24 p....5:20 p (2 hours 58 min)
Ont...... 11:00 a..3:53 p (2 hours 53 min)

ExpressJet (not what I originally said, "Jet Express" ... thanks for catching my error, OUman!)

From ... Depart ... Arrive
Okc...... 7:30 a.....8:28 a (2 hours 58 min)
Okc...... 3:20 p.....5:24 p (2 hours 4 min) [incorrect ... should be 4 hours 4 min]
Ont...... 8:00 a.....1:48 p (3 hours 48 min)
Ont...... 4:50 p.....9:43 p (2 hours 53 min)

Given the flight-time similarity with the Okc-Ont 3:20 pm flight, I'm guessing that the Ont-Okc 8 am flight also stopes in ABQ.

ExpressJet's website ( ExpressJet > ExpressJet Airlines > Fleet Information (http://www.expressjet.com/expressjet/fleet.htm) ) says that it uses the Embracer ERJ-145XR (seats 50, flight range of 2,000 nautical miles), ERJ-145 (seats 50, flight range of 1,550), and the Embracer ERJ-135 (a little "shorter" than the 145s and seats 37 with a range of 1,330 nautical miles).

Maybe it's already been mentioned here and I missed it, but I don't know which of these birds will be used here ... perhaps all of them.

Here's a pic of the Embracer ERJ-145XR ... I assume that the ERJ-145 looks the same ...

http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/2/3/3/1167332.jpg

Interior of Embracer ERJ-145

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/ERJ145interior.jpg

OUman
05-27-2007, 10:18 AM
Doug, it's Expressjet, not Jet Express. You might confuse someone because Jet Express is actually the commuter line of Frontier (Frontier Jet Express).

And as usual, the negative media-spin comes into play, but it being a reporter from a place like Austin, I'm not really surprised. Continental would be in comparison to Expressjet, being that you get free meals on all CO flights longer than 3 hours (even in Y) and all mainliners have some sort of in-flight entertainment, but DL? You kidding? There's no comparison at all, you'd be lucky to find a free meal in y-class on DL's domestic flights and sometimes even in Business "Elite" you don't get meals on 1/2-hr flights. And you have to purchase headphones if you want to hear something. You only get them free on international flights.

Doug Loudenback
05-28-2007, 06:39 AM
By the way and on a related topic, when trying to locate schedules and fares for ExpressJet, I could not locate on the web (not on Will Rogers site or anywhere else), A SINGLE place where all such schedules and/or fares were listed. Maybe that's not feasible (esp. for fares), but schedules? That would seem both doable and desirable.

Did I miss this somewhere? Venture79?

venture
05-28-2007, 08:47 AM
ExpressJet is using the ERJ-145XRs for their own branded venture. They are using the others for their Continental Express operation. The morning flight to ONT is nonstop.

Their timetable is here: Timetable (http://xjet.com/menu/whyxjet/timetable.htm)


They don't have a table of fares that would be available from say Southwest or some of the other low cost airlines. Essentially XJet's site will display the lowest fare available until it is sold out.

Doug Loudenback
05-28-2007, 08:55 AM
Thanks, Venture,

Maybe I wasn't clear with my questions.

I'm talking about something more like a "table" which shows at a glance flight schedules by airline ... all of them that serve Okc ... not just ExpressJet ... the ExpressJet link you kindly gave doesn't do this, either ... you have to fish through drop down boxes to get individual destination cities, etc., from Okc.

I'm surprised that Will Rogers doesn't have such a thing at its website as it is the common denominator for Okc airline flights. Or maybe it does and I couldn't find it.

Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't exist, but it seems to me that it should! If it doesn't exist, maybe I'll take that on as a blog project. What do you think?

OUman
05-28-2007, 01:21 PM
^The WRA website did have something like that a while back, it was in PDF format. Listed the latest schedules to/from OKC by airline (btw when I say "OKC" I mean the airport not the city).

venture
05-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Doug...Yeah something like that doesn't really exist. I'm working on a new Oklahoma aviation enthusiasts site that should be ready to go in a month or so. There will be something like that on there.

Kerry
05-29-2007, 06:47 PM
This does exist. Check out WRWA site under Airline Info. It appears the data comes froma service so you might have to play with some of the search options to get the data you want.

Doug Loudenback
05-30-2007, 05:10 PM
This does exist. Check out WRWA site under Airline Info. It appears the data comes froma service so you might have to play with some of the search options to get the data you want.
Kerry, maybe (certainly!) I'm dense but I've not been able to produce a complete "list," "table," or similar "page" at WRWA of either all daily scheduled departures or arrivals.

Were you able to do such a thing, and, if so, how?

Kerry
05-30-2007, 05:24 PM
All I can do is list them 20 arrivals/departures at a time. The data has to be coming from a database but it looks like it is fed from a service. You can copy each list into excel and generate a list.

OUman
05-30-2007, 07:55 PM
^Kerry, what he meant by airline timetables was a listing by airline of all departures and arrivals including nonstop and direct service all at a glance, and the days of operation of all flights (daily, X Sat etc). Not the real-time flight info. That feature isn't there any longer.

Doug Loudenback
05-30-2007, 08:44 PM
All I can do is list them 20 arrivals/departures at a time. The data has to be coming from a database but it looks like it is fed from a service. You can copy each list into excel and generate a list.
Yeah, that is so. But you can't get flights EARLIER or LATER than are in the list. To get tomorrow morning's flights, you have to get them early in the morning!

This is not what I had in mind when I asked the question about an overall table/list.

I've generated a partial table which I'll post later.