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Pete
09-04-2015, 01:23 PM
Steve said in a tweet last night that one of the two had ties to Yashouafar, which is a scary thought. Is it Goodman or Sarimsakci?

My guess is Sarimsakci. Goodman looks like he has the contract for a long time, appears like he has done a lot of due diligence, etc. But Sarimsakci swoops in at the last minute and presents no concrete plans and a higher offer. No businessperson in their right mind buys a property without having a well-thought out plan, especially one in litigation where you will have to go before a judge to gain control.

The way Sarimsakci has been inserted in this deal at the very last minute is very similar to how the property was suddenly 'sold' to Neman just before it was to be returned to the bank.

Beyond that, I have reason to believe that Sarimsakci has ties to Yashouafar but I can't divulge why I have drawn this conclusion. It's from inside info and I can't share the source.

Snowman
09-04-2015, 02:28 PM
There is some excellent information in that last article by Steve. While it may be possible the ultimate buyer will be one of these two who submitted offers I'm guessing not. Steve said in a tweet last night that one of the two had ties to Yashouafar, which is a scary thought. Is it Goodman or Sarimsakci?

My guess is Sarimsakci. Goodman looks like he has the contract for a long time, appears like he has done a lot of due diligence, etc. But Sarimsakci swoops in at the last minute and presents no concrete plans and a higher offer. No businessperson in their right mind buys a property without having a well-thought out plan, especially one in litigation where you will have to go before a judge to gain control.

But really, I'm just glad Yashouafar and Neman and Abselet have no control over the building now. I trust Jim Parrack will get the full slate of bidders he needs to make a decision, and this board and Steve will help vet them (hopefully we know the stages / finalists / etc. and not just the winner).

It is odd that Yashouafar seems to be trying to remain in control of things he has a history of doing a terrible job managing, maybe he was able to wring out some short term profit while the assets were loosing value but multiple of his ventures seem to be long term albatrosses the way he is mismanaging them. Is he trying to prop up the house of cards of a business he has built? It he just trying to keep the debt from catching up with him a little while longer? What is he doing for these partners that people still seem willing to put their money and reputation on the line with him?

catcherinthewry
09-06-2015, 08:58 AM
I trust Jim Parrack will get the full slate of bidders he needs to make a decision, and this board and Steve will help vet them (hopefully we know the stages / finalists / etc. and not just the winner).

Jim is very good at what he does and won't need any help from a reporter or an internet message board.

bchris02
09-06-2015, 09:05 AM
Analysis: A first-class property awaits right risk taker in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/analysis-a-first-class-property-awaits-right-risk-taker-in-oklahoma-city/article/5444850?custom_click=columnist)

Great article by Steve regarding the current situation. Now it looks like there is a third prospective buyer in the ring.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 09:08 AM
^^^^^^
This, 100%. This project is finally in experienced and very capable hands at this point. It's fun for us to discuss, and helpful to us as information consumers that people like Steve and others are helping interpret the goings-on, but if Jim needed Steve or us (heaven forbid) to help guide him through the process he would be unqualified for the job, which he absolutely, categorically is NOT.

Pete
09-06-2015, 12:59 PM
I just read through the court documents and here are some additional points:


The judge in this case -- as in all district court cases -- is merely ruling on motions brought before him. The motion to appoint a receiver was brought by the plaintiff, Howard Abselet. Abselet is the New York businessman who is claiming an ownership interest in FNC due to money owed to him by Yashouafar. Abselet's attorney filed a motion to appoint a receiver and the judge merely ruled on it. There seems to be the false impression that the judge is somehow taking a proactive role in this case.
After the judge ruled on the motion, he issued an Order Appointing Receiver and clearly outlined the duties. Primarily, the receiver takes sole possession and no one else can claim possession until the court issues a final ruling on the matters at hand. As with all receivers, Parrack is a caretaker and has exclusive authority to manage the building, sign new leases, collect and dispense funds and even borrow up to $1.5 million to discharge his duties without further court approval.
What he or anyone else can NOT do right now is sell this property. Parrack is merely a fiduciary with responsibility to look out for the interests of ALL parties involved in this case, including Yashouafar.
As things stand right now, the court will have the final say on the sale of the property. However, nothing has been decided on that point. The court must first decide if Goodman has a valid contract and if so, that that sale will likely go through. Or, it may rule that Alterra has legal claim. If and only if those two parties are ruled out for some reason, then a next step will be taken regarding the sale. But that does not mean the receiver gets to decide who buys the property and it also doesn't mean that the owners (still Yashouafar & Co.) won't have the right to sell to the highest bidder who can actually deliver the funds.
None of the existing liens or other claims around this property are affected by the receivership.


And finally, I don't see any scenario where anyone involved will make any judgment on the qualifications of a buyer to redevelop the property. If there is a legal and binding sales contract right now, then that will likely go through. If not, the owner still has the right to get as much as he can for his property, and that is the part of the fiduciary responsibility of the court and/or whoever they appoint.

brianinok
09-06-2015, 03:02 PM
Jim is very good at what he does and won't need any help from a reporter or an internet message board.


^^^^^^
This, 100%. This project is finally in experienced and very capable hands at this point. It's fun for us to discuss, and helpful to us as information consumers that people like Steve and others are helping interpret the goings-on, but if Jim needed Steve or us (heaven forbid) to help guide him through the process he would be unqualified for the job, which he absolutely, categorically is NOT.

Wow. I was seriously misunderstood. I know Jim is excellent at what he does. But Jim is not likely to release all his information to the public throughout the process. This board and Steve (and other reporters) will do some digging for the public. Of course I am sure that Jim will fully vet anyone he needs to do business with no matter what direction this takes. But if Pete is right that might not be a completely new sale process.

I look forward to what Steve reports and this board can come up with over the next several months/years on FNC. Because, like I said, I doubt Jim Parrack is going to issue a press release with all his info consistently.

Pete
09-06-2015, 03:22 PM
Jim Parrack is just managing the building in the interim. Also, his job is pretty straight-forward because he has a court order in hand that authorizes him to go borrow up to $1.5 million and use it to maintain the building. So, pretty easy to go meet with the utility and elevator companies and ask them to turn things back on while he works on getting them paid. It's not Parrack's money so he has no incentive not to pay them.

Nothing exciting is going to come out of the on-going management of the building. The utilities will be kept on, janitorial will be performed, day-to-day stuff like that. Parrack will issue a monthly report of expenses and revenues and perhaps some other mundane details.

Keep in mind that anyone with a legal claim on this property before receivership still does. So, if Goodman has a valid sales contract then that will likely go through while the court keeps all the extraneous stuff at bay, such as who gets the proceeds. Goodman or any other buyer doesn't care about that as long as they get clear title, which is pretty much guaranteed due to the court's involvement.

So really the next big issue is the court's ruling on the Goodman sales contract. If it was in force before Alterra or anyone else, then they have the legal right to close on the property. Period. The receivership has absolutely nothing to do with this part of it.


Again, I don't see any scenario where potential buyer are 'vetted' based on their development history. The court will first rule on the parties claiming to have the property under contract and then if none of that pans out, they move on to the next step of keeping the pathway clear for any buyers who may come later.


People seem to be wanting to treat this like the City has some role or there will be some sort of judged competition. This is still a private property and the owners still have the right to get the highest price they can, regardless of potential redevelopment potential.

And the idea the City should get involved and influence who buys this by either promising or withholding incentives would lead to massive legal action. They certainly can make those judgments after the property is transferred and someone makes formal application, but otherwise there is no way they can legally get involved in deciding who actually buys.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 03:30 PM
It won't be too difficult to rule on the validity of Goodman's purchase if he is unable to produce a contract signed by both parties.

Pete
09-06-2015, 03:34 PM
It won't be too difficult to rule on the validity of Goodman's purchase if he is unable to produce a contract signed by both parties.

What leads you to believe he does not have a signed contract?

This was all handled through a commercial real estate broker who has said many times the property is under contract. It can't be under contract without the appropriate signed docs.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 03:42 PM
The article states that Neman repeatedly tried to "change agreed-upon contract terms." What about that statement sounds like an accepted contract? If there is a real contract those things would be academic.

Any chance a real estate broker might characterize a property as being under contract if merely signed by a buyer? After all, he has certainly agreed to terms at that point.

Was a signed contract a part of the court docs? You would think it would be.

Pete
09-06-2015, 03:49 PM
Previous articles also said that the property was under contract to Goodman. Amy Dunn (broker involved) told me the same when I called her about this some time ago.

Anyone can try to change the terms but once under contract that can only happen by mutual agreement of the parties.


Now, I don't doubt that Neman/Yashouafar may try and claim the Goodman contract is not valid but it clearly came before any agreement with Alterra and it seems the sellers are merely trying to get a better deal at the last minute, or are using Alterra as yet another front.

So, the judge will certainly take a look at the Goodman contract and decide whether he has the right to buy. If he does and can close, that's it.

Pete
09-06-2015, 03:56 PM
Any chance a real estate broker might characterize a property as being under contract if merely signed by a buyer? After all, he has certainly agreed to terms at that point.

No.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 04:02 PM
Interesting. I guess we'll see.

Pete
09-06-2015, 04:07 PM
It's been reported that Goodman has had the property under contract since 2014 and that is my understanding as well.

I've seen the sales agreement with Alterra and it's dated 8/26/15 and was only executed when it became clear a receiver was going to be appointed.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 04:29 PM
Again, it's surprising that there is apparently no such document in court filings. Am I wrong about that? I would expect that somewhere along the way a contract on the property would have been subject to the discovery process. And if it were in a filing I would expect that you would have seen it.

Pete
09-06-2015, 05:17 PM
There are hundreds of documents in multiple cases in multiple courts and I haven't gone through them all.

There is zero reason to believe Goodman doesn't have a signed contract of some sort.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 06:24 PM
Well, zero reason to believe sounds pretty definitive alright. Like I said, I guess we'll see, eventually.

Pete
09-06-2015, 06:28 PM
You seem to be hinting at something but don't want to say it outright.

Urbanized
09-06-2015, 06:31 PM
Nope. Just seems strange, like everything else in this deal over the past 15 years. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Is it not odd that you've seen the Alterra agreement - signed a few weeks ago - but not the other one, which has purportedly existed for a year?

Pete
09-07-2015, 01:35 PM
Steve is now saying on Twitter both sides have confirmed there is no contract with Goodman.

Yet, he reported just a week ago -- and many other times before that -- it was under contract to Goodman:

http://newsok.com/article/5443166


If something changed, why wasn't that included in the many recent articles?

Jim Kyle
09-07-2015, 01:47 PM
I thought I saw, several days ago in one of the dual-bylined articles, a single sentence saying that Goodman had cancelled his contract -- but no other mention of that anywhere. I've not searched the archive for such a statement, though...

Pete
09-07-2015, 02:00 PM
I thought I saw, several days ago in one of the dual-bylined articles, a single sentence saying that Goodman had cancelled his contract -- but no other mention of that anywhere. I've not searched the archive for such a statement, though...

I've read everything they've posted and just re-read the last week's reports and couldn't find any mention of this.

soonerguru
09-07-2015, 03:30 PM
Lulz

David
09-07-2015, 08:32 PM
Was There Ever a Sale Contract for First National Center? | News OK (http://newsok.com/article/5445209)


Attorneys for Goodman went on to say that while he signed his copy of the contract, contrary to reports by Dunn and others, the contract was never completed because the Nemans continued to make last minute changes that were unacceptable to Goodman (details I've included in this weekend's coverage).

What we do know now is Jim Parrack is the receiver, and he is (as he confirmed to me) tasked with operating the building, getting it back to acceptable conditions for occupancy, and finding a suitable buyer.

Pete
09-07-2015, 08:49 PM
Steve himself reported many times it was under contract to Goodman, and not just in the "Amy Dunn told me" vein.


But obviously, this changes everything. If there is no contract by Goodman, Alterra or anyone else, then that would open things up to anyone who wants to buy.


But unless the court rules otherwise, the owners (Yashouafar et al) would have to approve any sale. They still own the property, after all.

ljbab728
09-07-2015, 09:36 PM
Steve himself reported many times it was under contract to Goodman, and not just in the "Amy Dunn told me" vein.


But obviously, this changes everything. If there is no contract by Goodman, Alterra or anyone else, then that would open things up to anyone who wants to buy.


But unless the court rules otherwise, the owners (Yashouafar et al) would have to approve any sale. They still own the property, after all.

Are you saying that this statement by Steve is incorrect?


What we do know now is Jim Parrack is the receiver, and he is (as he confirmed to me) tasked with operating the building, getting it back to acceptable conditions for occupancy, and finding a suitable buyer. Only Parrack can do so, because there is no clear owner of the building - that is the whole contention in the litigation involving Simon Barlava, Howard Abselet, the Nemans and Aaron Yashouafar.

I thought the point of the receivership was to get the building back in shape and sold with the funds from the sale being held pending future court decisions about ownership. It would seem strange if the judge now changed that direction.

Pete
09-07-2015, 09:37 PM
No, I'm not saying it's incorrect.

If you read what he wrote and what I wrote they are not contradictory.

ljbab728
09-07-2015, 09:43 PM
No, I'm not saying it's incorrect.

If you read what he wrote and what I wrote they are not contradictory.

OK, but please explain why you think the owners , whoever that might be, might now have to approve a buyer.

Pete
09-07-2015, 09:46 PM
Because the court hasn't taken over the ownership of the property, just appointed a receiver for the day-to-day management.

Ownership has not changed and there is no existing court order authorizing anyone else to sell it.

Getting it ready to sell -- which is Parrack's charge -- is very different than actually selling it.

ljbab728
09-07-2015, 09:51 PM
Interesting. That's the first time I've heard it from that viewpoint.

This is a previous statement from Parrack that seems to indicate that he thinks differently.


“I think my fiduciary responsibility is to sell it, but also to make sure they are qualified buyers and make sure they can perform,” Parrack said. “I think it is broader than just unloading it.”

Pete
09-07-2015, 10:02 PM
He can sell it, but only with Approval.

Here is how the court order defines Approval:


Any time “Approval” is required with respect to any action of the Receiver, such action will be authorized only if and when the Receiver receives the written consent of Plaintiff and the other parties to this action or when the Receiver obtains entry of an order of this Court, which may be sought and approved on an expedited basis.

Yashouafar and Neman are still parties to this action (so are Abselet and the mortgage holder), so Parrack would either need their approval or the court would have to issue a new order.

ljbab728
09-07-2015, 10:06 PM
He can sell it, but only with Approval.

Here is how the court order defines Approval:



Yashouafar and Neman are still parties to this action, so he would either need their approval or the court would have to issue a new order.

OK, that clarifies it. I would still think that it seems unlikely, based on what has happened to this point, that the court would wait for a final verdict on ownership, before approving a valid sale.

I'm still a little unclear about what it means when it says "Any time 'Approval' is required". Is it defined when that is required?

Pete
09-07-2015, 10:19 PM
At this point I don't think the court cares about the ownership makeup of the LLC.

As long as the appropriate person(s) for the ownership LLC (probably just the president) execute sales and closing docs, the true ownership mess can be dealt with after the fact.

It really only matters to Abselet and the judge has already said that he wouldn't let that issue stand in the way of a sale.

ljbab728
09-07-2015, 10:25 PM
That was exactly my point earlier. I think the court will do everything necessary to expedite a good and valid sale of the property.

Pete
09-07-2015, 10:34 PM
Right, at least clear title can now be delivered.

However, if Goodman is still willing to pay $23 million, from what I was told that is way more than any local group was willing to pay previously. Believe they were more in the neighborhood of $10 million and thus never made much progress once guys like Goodman started to talk much bigger dollars.

All that may end up happening is that the court clears the way for Goodman to actually get the property under contract and tender the $23 mil.

bchris02
09-07-2015, 10:37 PM
So do you think Goodman is the safest bet at this point to actually get the job done?

Pete
09-07-2015, 10:42 PM
Goodman obviously wants the property and has been trying to give them $23 million for it.

It's hard to imagine anyone willing to pay much more, so if he can perform and deliver the funds, he'll probably be the new owner.

ChowRunner
09-08-2015, 11:20 AM
In first National now.. And I was not only surprised to see all of the signs posted to discourage people from going to the old bank lobby have been removed - - but they have also turned the escalators back on going up there. It's been many years since I have seen that.

Laramie
09-08-2015, 05:00 PM
In first National now.. And I was not only surprised to see all of the signs posted to discourage people from going to the old bank lobby have been removed - - but they have also turned the escalators back on going up there. It's been many years since I have seen that.

Glad to hear that the escalators to the Great Banking Hall are operable. Although there were posted signs; people continued to walk up the steps to enter the empty hall. We (brothers) took our children & grandchildren there many times upon leaving the Golden Dragon.

The concourse tunnel basement escalator to Chase Bank & other places were also available as you exit the east end ground floor level.

Pete
09-09-2015, 08:53 AM
BTW, Parrack is being paid $7,500 per month to act as receiver and will receive a $200,000 incentive fee upon sale of the property.

ShadowStrings
09-09-2015, 09:13 AM
BTW, Parrack is being paid $7,500 per month to act as receiver and will receive a $200,000 incentive fee upon sale of the property.

How do I sign up for a job like this? :)

OkieNate
09-09-2015, 09:56 AM
How do I sign up for a job like this? :)

Law School.

sooner88
09-09-2015, 10:03 AM
Law School.

Parrack is a broker....

UnFrSaKn
09-12-2015, 03:23 PM
https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=KoDjhS4xehe

Of Sound Mind
09-13-2015, 05:43 AM
https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=KoDjhS4xehe
That is so awesome, UnFrSaKn! Thanks!

ABryant
09-13-2015, 11:59 AM
That is really awesome.

bchris02
09-13-2015, 12:09 PM
That place is simply amazing.

Dustin
09-13-2015, 02:17 PM
https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=KoDjhS4xehe

Wow wow wow!

They don't build em like they used to. Such a stunning space.

If I ever hear the words "demolition" and "First National Center" in the same sentence, I'm gonna drive down there and chain myself to the building...

Spartan
09-13-2015, 05:27 PM
Wonder how many more seedy out of state owners this building can withstand though. Not calling the new guy that, but I'm sure if the City doesn't give him gobs of cash just that lies behind Door #2.

ljbab728
09-13-2015, 08:17 PM
Wonder how many more seedy out of state owners this building can withstand though. Not calling the new guy that, but I'm sure if the City doesn't give him gobs of cash just that lies behind Door #2.

You are certainly in a very positive state of mind today, Spartan. Did somebody kick your cat? :D

baralheia
09-14-2015, 09:44 AM
Wow, that is fantastic! That 3D walk-around view is really really cool, and what a way to showcase that fantastic Great Banking Hall. It reminds me of visiting Union Station in Chicago, and the Great Hall in that building. Awesome stuff.

Spartan
09-14-2015, 10:17 AM
You are certainly in a very positive state of mind today, Spartan. Did somebody kick your cat? :D

I really don't do that, but I can see where you'd think that lol. But you'll notice in the same posting spurt that I really liked the Flatiron third floor!

I just call it like I see it. I really do look to OKC topics to provide inspiration more often than not, but let's be real lol...that's becoming a rarity.

Pete
09-25-2015, 06:41 AM
Photo below is from the ground-level arcade looking towards the west entrance.

I was surprised to see so many tenants still there, at least on the 1st floor: Nancy Farha (on the left of the photo), Cafe 7, Tinder Box, Golden Dragon, Pharmacy and several others.

As has been mentioned, not only are the "not welcome" signs gone from the stairs up to the Great Banking Hall, the escalators were on to take you up to that beautiful space.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fnc092415.jpg

Pete
09-29-2015, 03:43 PM
Just received this sales flyer:



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fnc092915a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fnc092915b.jpg

Kemotblue
09-29-2015, 09:38 PM
Thanks Pete they might do some photoshop editing on the missing windows to dress up the flyer. Glad the receivership company is taking care of this property. Hopefully they get this downtown treasure a rightful owner that will turn this building around and become another success story for OKC.

bchris02
09-29-2015, 09:59 PM
Thanks Pete they might do some photoshop editing on the missing windows to dress up the flyer. Glad the receivership company is taking care of this property. Hopefully they get this downtown treasure a rightful owner that will turn this building around and become another success story for OKC.

I agree. A properly restored First National Center, in my opinion, is key to the CBD reaching its potential. It could be the centerpiece of a vibrant, happening area in the middle of what is currently a dead zone after 5PM. If the CBD is to join the OKC urban renaissance, First National is the key puzzle piece.

David
09-30-2015, 07:21 AM
Went googling and found the Price Edwards & Co. staff pages for the listed contacts: Craig Tucker (http://www.priceedwards.com/staff/craig-m-tucker), Cordell Brown (http://www.priceedwards.com/staff/cordell-c-brown-ccim-cips). Also Jim Parrack (http://www.priceedwards.com/staff/jim-parrack) for completeness. The listed experience and credentials gives me a lot of confidence.

Urbanized
10-23-2015, 06:40 AM
Sale of downtown Oklahoma City's First National Center may come soon | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/sale-of-downtown-oklahoma-citys-first-national-center-may-come-soon/article/5455340)

Jim is obviously doing much more than just managing the building. And he apparently doesn't have to get a sale approved by anyone other than "the court."

Pete
10-23-2015, 06:43 AM
^

That's not what the article says but I hope your conclusion is correct.

Also, Parrack's colleagues at Price Edwards are handling the marketing of the property.