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Patrick
05-22-2006, 05:32 PM
The name of our AAA baseball team almost got changed to 89ers this season. Which name do you like better, 89ers or Redhawks?

Keith
05-22-2006, 07:18 PM
The name of our AAA baseball team almost got changed to 89ers this season. Which name do you like better, 89ers or Redhawks?
I actually like the RedHawks better.........the 89ers sounds too hickish and cowboyish to me.

escan
05-23-2006, 08:10 AM
I agree.....either the RedHawks or another name. Let's not perpetuate any more stereotypes about Oklahoma....ie, the Wranglers, etc.

Survey
05-23-2006, 10:07 AM
I don't think 89ers is hickish.

SoonerDave
05-25-2006, 11:45 AM
I very much like the 89ers name because it is most certainly unique, and it represents an extremely significant element of Oklahoma history - the 1889 land run. I don't get how that's "hickish," certainly no more so than a little red chicken hawk strutting around a barnyard.

I have no use for the Redhawks nickname, because I was told by someone I deem credible that it was "forced" on the team because it was originally intended to be used by the hockey team the city went after a few years ago. If you'll notice, the leg of the "R" in the circle-R logo is supposed to be dual-use; feathers on the bird's wing, but also three hockey sticks.

More important to me, however, than the nickname is the city/state reference. It should be the "Oklahoma City <whatevers>," not "Oklahoma <whatevers>". Tulsa has the Drillers, and the rest of the state contributes, oh, essentially *nothing* to the perpetuation of AAA baseball. The team plays in a park financed by Oklahoma City tax revenue, in the heart of downtown Oklahoma City, in front of fans that are substantially (if not in many cases exclusively) from Oklahoma City or its many suburbs.

The only reason we lost the "City" moniker is because the City tried to sell Oklahoma to the NHL as a "state"-oriented locale rather than a city-oriented one; hence the name "Oklahoma Redhawks" and not "Oklahoma *CITY* Redhawks."

Either way, I want "Oklahoma City" back. I'd prefer the "89ers" for its historical relevance in light of our pending state centennial. "Redhawks" is a meaningless marketing term that could be attached to any minor league sports franchise as a way to sell T-shirts; it adds no value whatsoever.

-SoonerDave

writerranger
05-25-2006, 12:15 PM
I very much like the 89ers name because it is most certainly unique, and it represents an extremely significant element of Oklahoma history - the 1889 land run. I don't get how that's "hickish," certainly no more so than a little red chicken hawk strutting around a barnyard.

I have no use for the Redhawks nickname, because I was told by someone I deem credible that it was "forced" on the team because it was originally intended to be used by the hockey team the city went after a few years ago. If you'll notice, the leg of the "R" in the circle-R logo is supposed to be dual-use; feathers on the bird's wing, but also three hockey sticks.

More important to me, however, than the nickname is the city/state reference. It should be the "Oklahoma City <whatevers>," not "Oklahoma <whatevers>". Tulsa has the Drillers, and the rest of the state contributes, oh, essentially *nothing* to the perpetuation of AAA baseball. The team plays in a park financed by Oklahoma City tax revenue, in the heart of downtown Oklahoma City, in front of fans that are substantially (if not in many cases exclusively) from Oklahoma City or its many suburbs.

The only reason we lost the "City" moniker is because the City tried to sell Oklahoma to the NHL as a "state"-oriented locale rather than a city-oriented one; hence the name "Oklahoma Redhawks" and not "Oklahoma *CITY* Redhawks."

Either way, I want "Oklahoma City" back. I'd prefer the "89ers" for its historical relevance in light of our pending state centennial. "Redhawks" is a meaningless marketing term that could be attached to any minor league sports franchise as a way to sell T-shirts; it adds no value whatsoever.

-SoonerDave

Well said, SoonerDave, I agree 100%.

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MadMonk
05-25-2006, 12:47 PM
Well said, SoonerDave, I agree 100%.

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Same here.

Midtowner
05-25-2006, 01:01 PM
The Redhawks name makes it easier and cheaper for the team to relocate without nasty things like creating a new team name, etc.

Patrick
05-25-2006, 02:16 PM
The Redhawks name makes it easier and cheaper for the team to relocate without nasty things like creating a new team name, etc.

As long as Funk owns them, we don't have to worry about that.

Survey
05-26-2006, 08:31 AM
I think the name needs to reflect our history as a Native American state. Let's go back to Oklahoma City Indians.

writerranger
05-26-2006, 12:04 PM
Jack....err.....Survey,

I don't think they would want a name that a major league team is using. Farm team confusion and all that.

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Survey
05-26-2006, 12:14 PM
How about the Rangers then? And I don't appreciate you calling me a jack ass.

Survey
05-26-2006, 01:57 PM
Many minor league teams adopt the name of their parent team. I personally wouldn't mind us being called the Oklahoma City Rangers or Oklahoma Rangers.

writerranger
05-26-2006, 03:00 PM
How about the Rangers then? And I don't appreciate you calling me a jack ass.

I don't know where you got that. You just remind me of an old "friend" named Jack from the board.

Martin
02-01-2007, 08:59 AM
ok... i'm posting in an old thread. i prefered the 89'ers monicker... it just seemed to have more significance than the redhawks name. however, after all these years of being the redhawks, i wouldn't be for changing it back... they've already built the brand up. -M

Jesus Lied For You
02-26-2007, 06:42 PM
89ers. Oklahoma is about tradition.

flintysooner
06-21-2007, 04:56 PM
89ers and tradition. That is really funny.

betts
06-21-2007, 07:14 PM
I like the name, colors and logo of the Redhawks. To me, being renamed the 89ers is like going backwards.

redland
06-22-2007, 05:44 AM
89ers and tradition. That is really funny.

In what way is it funny? Ever since the famous Run of 1889, opening Oklahoma Territory to settlement, we have celebrated 89'ers day on April 22. I would call that a tradition for our state. The name "Oklahoma City 89ers" is akin to the name
"San Francisco 49ers," 1849 being a year that is part of northern California's tradition. The name "Redhawk," on the other hand, evokes nothing about Oklahoma or Oklahoma City. That said, since the name "Redhawk" has been used for several years now I think a change back to 89ers is off the table.

flintysooner
06-22-2007, 07:57 AM
It struck me funny because the Sooners and the 89ers (the real ones) were pioneers, risk takers, and about as non-traditional as one could be in that day.

SoonerDave
06-22-2007, 01:38 PM
I have thought, and still do think, the Redhawks name change was a complete sellout. Pointless, generic name that could be used from here to Boise. 89ers was a great nickname, and it was thrown in the crapper in the name of marketing $10 junk bauble "souvenir" crap to kids.

-soonerdave

Rifleman2C
06-22-2007, 01:46 PM
Although I think the 89ers name actually means something to our State, I guess that the majority of the folks that vote on this board don't mind sharing our Oklahoma Minor Pro Baseball team name with one from the University of Miami, Ohio...

HOT ROD
06-23-2007, 03:24 PM
AAA Oklahoma City 89ers.

Hopefully tho, with the Sonics moving - a resurrection of the name could ensue!

NBA Oklahoma City 89ers.

redland
06-23-2007, 03:56 PM
NBA Oklahoma City 89ers.

Yes sir, Hot Rod, I like it!!!: :congrats:

SuperScooper
06-26-2007, 11:30 PM
I would prefer that we call them the 69'ers.

I AM PS3
01-05-2008, 07:24 PM
I guess my latest vote puts the 89ers at dead even with the Redhawks. Like many others on this board, I've always longed to go back to our historic AAA baseball team name, and felt that the name change was a sellout.

Let's go back! I also always liked the 89ers uniform way more. It's nostalgic and a throwback to earlier baseball days!

Paul
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Harvey Hudson
04-18-2008, 02:23 PM
I vote for the Red Dirt Rangers